SENATE'S GUN CONTROL READING * LIVE

[Portsider86]

. . .I also predict a lot of guys will get caught in LE stings and lose their 2nd Amendment rights and their entire collections over this.

I fear that this will happen quite a bit and they will be vilified.

[jslo]

Hatidua. Some of the comments by Jer and others, IMO, are the exact definition of defeatist attitude. Saying something is over before all options are exhausted. I don't blame him or the others for feeling this way and in Jer's (and others) case his/their "defeatist comments", to this point, don't jive with their actions. They are still fighting while claiming it's over and a waste of time There are many of us here willing to carry on the fight, to it's conclusion, without the discouraging comments basically telling us we're wasting our time and it cannot be stopped.

And by the way, I also feel this current battle is lost and a "waste" of time but the war is far from over.

[hatidua]

Hatidua. Some of the comments by Jer and others, IMO, are the exact definition of defeatist attitude. Saying something is over before all options are exhausted. I don't blame him or the others for feeling this way and in Jer's (and others) case his/their "defeatist comments", to this point, don't jive with their actions. They are still fighting while claiming it's over and a waste of time There are many of us here willing to carry on the fight, to it's conclusion, without the discouraging comments basically telling us we're wasting our time and it cannot be stopped.

And by the way, I also feel this current battle is lost and a "waste" of time but the war is far from over.

I've written politicians many hundreds, if not thousands of times in the past eight weeks (I think my past posts urging others to write likely bordered on annoying). Phone calls to our legislators? - more than I can remotely recall! Donated more money to organizations fighting this than I could rightfully afford. Have offered to take anti's to the range, etc. At the same time, I'm not oblivious to what is going on in society.

Do I want my rights taken away? -obviously not. Do I see where things are headed? -sadly, yes.

I'm neither tossing in the towel nor moving. I'm just living in a state in which many hold one of my hobbies to be a blight on society.

[Fmedges]

Hatidua. Some of the comments by Jer and others, IMO, are the exact definition of defeatist attitude. Saying something is over before all options are exhausted. I don't blame him or the others for feeling this way and in Jer's (and others) case his/their "defeatist comments", to this point, don't jive with their actions. They are still fighting while claiming it's over and a waste of time There are many of us here willing to carry on the fight, to it's conclusion, without the discouraging comments basically telling us we're wasting our time and it cannot be stopped.

And by the way, I also feel this current battle is lost and a "waste" of time but the war is far from over.

If you don't like reading other people's thoughts then why are you on a forum? If you don't like what they say then don't read what they post. Problem solved.

[jslo]

If you don't like reading other people's thoughts then why are you on a forum?

Ditto

If you don't like what they say then don't read what they post. Problem solved.

Maybe one day I'll be more like you and won't ever critique someone's posts

[Fmedges]

Maybe one day I'll be more like you and won't ever critique someone's posts

Maybe one day we can meet up and discuss this further.

[TFOGGER]

Will any of these proposed laws matter when the inevitable collapse of the economic system comes?

[DHC]

Will any of these proposed laws matter when the inevitable collapse of the economic system comes?

Wellll - in full consideration of the abrupt thread drift involved in a response, I'd suggest that the laws could be very important if/when the economic system collapses. In that eventuality, having maximum firepower could easily mean the difference between life and death for self and/or family. Further, such an economic collapse is almost certain to NOT result in overwhelming social chaos overnight. Even a worst case collapse is likely to occur over some period of time - weeks, months, or longer. During that period, some amount of law enforcement will continue, and that enforcement could easily result in loss of important firepower when the full weight of the collapse occurs.

Of course this is all entirely hypothetical and subject to incessant debate/argument in other threads or on other fora.

IHTH

[jslo]

Maybe one day we can meet up and discuss this further.

I'm sure you're talking about grabbing a beer sometime and it's not a threat

[DHC]

I'm sure you're talking about grabbing a beer sometime and it's not a threat

Yeah - all our collective energy needs (IMO) to be focused on the fight at the statehouse. Squabbling amongst ourselves won't help anything and could distract us from the more important task at hand.

FWIW