SENATE'S GUN CONTROL READING * LIVE

[Birddog1911]

I'm trying to dig through all of the pages since last night, but I'll ask here. Who is the most vulnerable democrat? If we only need to swing one more before Monday, we need to work on that one. If there are a couple that look iffy, we could work on them all.

[jerrymrc]

Hopefully in 2014 when we have state elections those democrats who made party more important than what their citizens wanted will reflect in the ballot box.

There will be no shortage of ammo for that one. My house rep needs a good sign like "Tony Exum= Bidens puppet.

[Bailey Guns]

the trouble is that both Party platforms are absolute shit.

No...but that statement is.

Democrat Party:

Firearms. We recognize that the individual right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans' Second Amendment right to own and use firearms. We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation. We understand the terrible consequences of gun violence; it serves as a reminder that life is fragile, and our time here is limited and precious. We believe in an honest, open national conversation about firearms. We can focus on effective enforcement of existing laws, especially strengthening our background check system, and we can work together to enact commonsense improvements—like reinstating the assault weapons ban and closing the gun show loophole—so that guns do not fall into the hands of those irresponsible, law-breaking few.

Republican Party:

The Second Amendment: Our Right to Keep and Bear Arms
We uphold the right of individuals to keep and bear arms, a right which antedated the Constitution and was solemnly confirmed by the Second Amendment. We acknowledge, support, and defend the law-abiding citizen’s God-given right of self-defense. We call for the protection of such fundamental individual rights recognized in the Supreme Court’s decisions in District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago affirming that right, and we recognize the individual responsibility to safely use and store firearms. This also includes the right to obtain and store ammunition without registration. We support the fundamental right to self-defense wherever a law-abiding citizen has a legal right to be, and we support federal legislation that would expand the exercise of that right by allowing those with state-issued carry permits to carry firearms in any state that issues such permits to its own residents. Gun ownership is responsible citizenship, enabling Americans to defend their homes and communities. We condemn frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers and oppose federal licensing or registration of law-abiding gun owners. We oppose legislation that is intended to restrict our Second Amendment rights by limiting the capacity of clips or magazines or otherwise restoring the ill-considered Clinton gun ban. We condemn the reckless actions associated with the operation known as “Fast and Furious,” conducted by the Department of Justice, which resulted in the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent and others on both sides of the border. We applaud the Members of the U.S. House of Representatives in holding the current Administration’s Attorney General in contempt of Congress for his refusal to cooperate with their investigation into that debacle. We oppose the improper collection of firearms sales information in the four southern border states, which was imposed without congressional authority.

That's just one example. If you don't see a difference in the traditional American values laid out in each party's platform you're not looking very hard.

[bryjcom]

I'm trying to dig through all of the pages since last night, but I'll ask here. Who is the most vulnerable democrat? If we only need to swing one more before Monday, we need to work on that one. If there are a couple that look iffy, we could work on them all.

Copy and paste

angela.giron.senate@state.co.us,
jeanne.nicholson.senate@state.co.us,
nancy.todd.senate@state.co.us,
andy.kerr.senate@state.co.us,
linda.newell.senate@gmail.com,
gail.schwartz.senate@gmail.com

[Jmetz]

I listened to the broadcast for most of the evening yesterday and it was pretty clear to me democrats would rather keep their toe to the party line instead of voting on bills for the best interest of the citizens they represent. Democrats didn't debate 1224 last night because they knew it was a bad bill in the first place (even being called out to come up and debate several times)

Yesterday showed me how easilly our political representation can be influenced from the outside.

Hopefully in 2014 when we have state elections those democrats who made party more important than what their citizens wanted will reflect in the ballot box.

Stevie Wonder can see that these bills lack real support. It really pissed me off when there was an amendment on the floor to kill 1224 and the senator asked anyone that supports the bill to come rationally explain why it shouldn't die. The only response, was Hodge with "I urge a no vote" it's pretty sad..

[newracer]

I'm trying to dig through all of the pages since last night, but I'll ask here. Who is the most vulnerable democrat? If we only need to swing one more before Monday, we need to work on that one. If there are a couple that look iffy, we could work on them all.

This is the list RMGO is asking people to contact.

Senator Angela Giron -SD03- (303)866-4878
angela.giron.senate@state.co.us

Senator Jeanne Nicholson -SD16- (303)866-4873
jeanne.nicholson.senate@state.co.us

Senator Cheri Jahn -SD20- (303)866-4856
cheri.jahn.senate@state.co.us

Senator Nancy Todd -SD28- (303)866-3432
nancy.todd.senate@state.co.us

Senator Andy Kerr -SD22- (303)866-4859
andy.kerr.senate@state.co.us

Senator Linda Newell -SD26- (303)866-4846
linda.newell.senate@gmail.com

Senator Gail Schwartz - SD05- (303)866-4871
gail.schwartz.senate@gmail.com

[merl]

No...but that statement is.

I could easily find conflicting examples. 2A there is a clear leader, others not so much. This is a gun board though so I should have just kept my mouth shut.

[merl]

Back to the topic, did any amendments get added to any of the bills? Saw many that were proposed and the state website is slow on getting them updated.

[Sharpienads]

Back to the topic, did any amendments get added to any of the bills? Saw many that were proposed and the state website is slow on getting them updated.

Nothing important, that I remember. I think any that got added were just wording changes or something like that.

[MED]

Back to the topic, did any amendments get added to any of the bills? Saw many that were proposed and the state website is slow on getting them updated.

According to that fat ugly cow Hodge, you can have a 28" shot gun shell...that should cause some damage.

1. They amended 1224 to allow 28" of shotgun shells in a tube.
2. They amended 1229 to give you 72 hours for lending.