Hatidua. Some of the comments by Jer and others, IMO, are the exact definition of defeatist attitude. Saying something is over before
all options are exhausted. I don't blame him or the others for feeling this way and in Jer's (and others) case his/their "defeatist comments", to this point, don't jive with their actions. They are still fighting while claiming it's over and a waste of time

There are many of us here willing to carry on the fight, to it's conclusion, without the discouraging comments basically telling us we're wasting our time and it cannot be stopped.
And by the way, I also feel this current battle is lost and a "waste" of time but the war is far from over.