SENATE'S GUN CONTROL READING * LIVE

[ChrisC]

If you are an FFL as a sole proprietor then you do not have to do a background check to transfer a gun to yourself. If the FFL is an LLC, Corp, etc.. then you have to do a background check to transfer a firearm from your inventory to your personal collection. I just recently had this discussion with the BATFE when having my FFL interview with the IOI.

[MAP]

Thanks for not taking me too seriously, I'm mostly thinking hypothetically. This one just gets to me since my husband travels for longer than 72 hours at a time and I would hate to become a criminal without meaning to. It's for the children, after all!

A solution may be to put all of your firearms in a Trust so that you and your husband have equal access.

Mike

[jslo]

So I've been trying to shuffle through all this. Where is the exact wording for this final bill? I was told by a friend that if I leave the house for 72+ hours, I have to transfer the guns (assuming I had any) to my wife? Or anyone else that would remain in custody of the house which holds any potential firearms?

Have not seen the text for myself but someone here on the floor said something to the effect it would not have to be transferred if it did not leave the home.

[XC700116]

In light of the goings on at the statehouse today just remember there is always a way to remedy the situation. I have 2 quotes I would like to submit from 2 very different sources that have the same thoughts and intention.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it."
-Abraham Lincoln -Monday, March 4, 1861
His Inaugural Address

"All the world's great civilizations have followed the same path. From bondage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy back to bondage. If we are to be the exception to history, then we must break the cycle, for those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
Molly Johnson - From the movie swing vote

I always laugh when I hear people quote Lincoln saying such things, I mean really, he's the one who was the sole biggest contributor to starting the civil war and it had NOTHING to do with Liberty, it had everything to do with stopping secession. The whole "free the slaves" bit was secondary and after the fact. He went to war with his own people to crush liberty.

[lowbeyond]

nope

(b) AS USED IN THIS SECTION, UNLESS THE CONTEXT REQUIRES
17 OTHERWISE, "TRANSFEREE" MEANS A PERSON WHO DESIRES TO RECEIVE OR
18 ACQUIRE A FIREARM FROM A TRANSFEROR. IF A TRANSFEREE IS NOT A
19 NATURAL PERSON BUT A CORPORATION, ASSOCIATION, PARTNERSHIP, OR
20 LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY OR TRUST, THE REQUIREMENT DESCRIBED IN
21 THIS SUBSECTION (1) SHALL BE INTERPRETED TO REQUIRE A BACKGROUND
22 CHECK OF EACH MEMBER, PARTNER, OFFICER, OR OTHER PERSON WHO
23 HOLDS A BENEFICIAL INTEREST IN THE CORPORATION, ASSOCIATION,
24 PARTNERSHIP, OR LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY OR TRUST.

[XC700116]

A solution may be to put all of your firearms in a Trust so that you and your husband have equal access.

Mike

It needs to be done before it goes into effect, because the trust transfer is killed in an amendment to the bill.

[Rucker61]

Have not seen the text for myself but someone here on the floor said something to the effect it would not have to be transferred if it did not leave the home.

Democrat or Republican? I haven't seen any indication that the Democrats understand any of the bill.

[neversummer900]

Agreed he did more to undermine the power of the constitution as the supreme law of the land. But his words are true The United States belongs to the people not the government. That was where I see the light in his statement.

I always laugh when I hear people quote Lincoln saying such things, I mean really, he's the one who was the sole biggest contributor to starting the civil war and it had NOTHING to do with Liberty, it had everything to do with stopping secession. The whole "free the slaves" bit was secondary and after the fact. He went to war with his own people to crush liberty.

[XC700116]

nope

(b) AS USED IN THIS SECTION, UNLESS THE CONTEXT REQUIRES
17 OTHERWISE, "TRANSFEREE" MEANS A PERSON WHO DESIRES TO RECEIVE OR
18 ACQUIRE A FIREARM FROM A TRANSFEROR. IF A TRANSFEREE IS NOT A
19 NATURAL PERSON BUT A CORPORATION, ASSOCIATION, PARTNERSHIP, OR
20 LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY OR TRUST, THE REQUIREMENT DESCRIBED IN
21 THIS SUBSECTION (1) SHALL BE INTERPRETED TO REQUIRE A BACKGROUND
22 CHECK OF EACH MEMBER, PARTNER, OFFICER, OR OTHER PERSON WHO
23 HOLDS A BENEFICIAL INTEREST IN THE CORPORATION, ASSOCIATION,
24 PARTNERSHIP, OR LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY OR TRUST.

Reading the text of that, I would say that anything the trust holds before the law goes into effect is grandfathered. IE GET IT DONE NOW!!

I would also venture to guess that as long as the item/firearms stays in the trust, an added trustee would not have to have BGC's for each and every item. Because they are added to the trust, not an item added to the trust.

[67rschev]

+1 brother... I'm still holding out hope on 1224, but after that I'm gonna unload on the Dems. Nothing abusive or threatening, but the fucking elitist traitors are going to get a piece of my mind. And their opposition will get a huge chunk of my time and money.

And a big plus 1 .

I have never been this upset about the state of our State . Never been all that active besides getting out to vote and an occasional yard tard . This next go around , big time AND money from this freedom loving family