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    Before I left I made sure that I was on their mailing and email lists. Everyone was courteous and friendly. One other young lady said she wanted to talk again as what I said at the beginning of the meeting was unexpected and she felt diverse opinion was good for the group. In my opinion these organizers are enemies of the republic and want America changed into a progressive utopia where they are in control for the good of the people. They are deceivers and are extremely well organized in their mission. They are having a grand old time keeping the conservative vote split while concentrating theirs. I have not seen or heard of anything on this scale, on any level really, from the conservative side. I will attend other meetings and report back on what I observe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Before I left I made sure that I was on their mailing and email lists. Everyone was courteous and friendly. One other young lady said she wanted to talk again as what I said at the beginning of the meeting was unexpected and she felt diverse opinion was good for the group. In my opinion these organizers are enemies of the republic and want America changed into a progressive utopia where they are in control for the good of the people. They are deceivers and are extremely well organized in their mission. They are having a grand old time keeping the conservative vote split while concentrating theirs. I have not seen or heard of anything on this scale, on any level really, from the conservative side. I will attend other meetings and report back on what I observe.

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    Before you go to the next one I will rig you up with a small recording device. I'd love to have this stuff on video.
    What is my joy if all hands, even the unclean, can reach into it? What is my wisdom, if even the fools can dictate to me? What is my freedom, if all creatures, even the botched and impotent, are my masters? What is my life, if I am but to bow, to agree and to obey?
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    I emailed Senator Brophy about the meeting and expressed my observations and thoughts. I offered to work with a conservative organizer in NorCO to try and do something to offset this attack on our freedoms by getting a dedicated group going to fight these people. The bad guys have a plan. they have had this plan for a long time and are working at a national level by getting people to chip away a little at a time. We talk a lot about the creeps in DC but we can't take DC back if we can't retake CO first. This is not a easy thing to do from scratch and I asked Brophy for help to get the ball rolling. I can't do this by myself and will need help from people willing to fight for their rights. I'm old and in some circles old is written off as obsolete but I do not want to leave this world with my daughter a slave to liars, cheats and self serving scum.

    I left that meeting last night with a mix of jumbled emotions that ran the gamut; hate, sadness, compassion, anger, helplessness, euphoria and almost 24 hours later I still can;t process all of what I experienced and I can't get it down here just how I feel. I have decided to fight back, even if I do it alone.

    Fuck shit fuck shit fuck shit. This is it! If we don't organize and fight these scum we are lost. It is now that we need to do this. If we don't get off our asses now then come the midterm election we will be buried so deep there will be no escape except for violence and death and if it come to that I will be in the vanguard. It doesn't have to come to that outcome if we get going right now. When I am contacted by an organizer I will post on the forum and I pray that there will be some to stand with me and make the sacrifice in time and effort to save ourselves, our families and our state from those that would deny freedom.

    We will not get another chance at this. This will be the moment in history that we make for ourselves and our families the future that America stands for.
    Last edited by wctriumph; 03-14-2013 at 18:06.
    "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking."
    George S. Patton

    "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."
    Dwight D. Eisenhower

    "Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth."
    John F. Kennedy

    ?A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment, and is designed for the special use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics.?
    George Fitch. c 1916.

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    wctriumph, I applaud and appreciate you going forward and bringing us this valuable intel. I hope that you keep it up and let us know what "they" are up too. I in no way want you to be discouraged in what you feel is the right thing to do. Six years ago I to sat right where your at. I thought to myself we need to do something now! I got involved in my local Town politics, I became a Delegate, I was off the couch. Then came the Tea Party/ 9-12/ Liberty movement. I thought to myself again, we have a pretty good chance to turn things around. I got more involved, helped co-found my local 9-12 group, became a Delegate again, my wife and I and like minded individuals worked our asses off. We worked to bring about real change. On my side of the street we helped get Gardner, Buck, Perry Buck, Sheriff Cook, Sen. Marble and many other good Conservatives in office (scratch gardner from that list). I stood my ground and fought my Town of Windsor on property rights. Taking a big emotional and financial toll on me and my family. It may have been only cows but the implications were bigger than that. When all those supporters were needed, there were only a few. We had financial support to take our case to the Appellate Courts and beyond if need be. We had a ton of lip service for the last 6 years. People saying we support you, were here. When it came time to vote, when it came time to stand at Town Hall meetings, when it came time to be Free, where was everyone? There were a few of us, but not enough. Then some bad shit happens, like this Gun Legislation and now there are thousands screaming " What about my rights?" What about them? Where you there come election time trying to keep these scummbags out of office? Some of you were, but most weren't or they wouldn't be there.
    I pray you keep the courage and fortitude to keep fighting them, but it's there game they're playing. It's there rules and they made them so you don't have a chance to win. We play by the rules because it's who we are, they don't. At the end of the day I believe Thomas Jefferson said it best "The tree of Liberty MUST be refreshed with the blood of tyrants and Patriots alike."

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    Thanks for the encouragement and I know that there will be few if any that will stand with me, everyone has their own daily grind and it is hard to make a moment for something outside the comfort zone. I'll see what Brophy comes up with. I will contact the Tea Baggers, 9/12 and see what they have to say as well. In any case I will continue to attend these OFA meetings and see if I can be a "devil's advocate" at some of them. You are right, they are making the rules and they don't follow the rules they make. I am committed now and a year down the road if it's just me standing up at a town council meeting and voicing the dissenting opinion, I will do it for no other reason than to try and set an example for my daughter so she will better understand personal honor and just what the cost of freedom is. If it comes to the latter, well, I'll stand next to any brave soul that will stand with me.
    "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking."
    George S. Patton

    "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both."
    Dwight D. Eisenhower

    "Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth."
    John F. Kennedy

    ?A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment, and is designed for the special use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics.?
    George Fitch. c 1916.

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    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by wctriumph View Post
    If it comes to the latter, well, I'll stand next to any brave soul that will stand with me.
    I'll be there with you at the next one. Maybe we can grab coffee beforehand. Maybe go covert and play off of each other.
    The chair is against the wall has a long mustache.

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    wctriumph, Thank you sir for your dedication and example. Even though I'm far away down here in Monument, we lived in Windsor in 2000 when we first moved to CO.

    I will use your example to get more involved than just emails, letters and phone calls.

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    I have more than a couple friends from my college years that have joined this effort in other states. This is what is scary, as wctriumph said they are highly organized, brainwashed with idealism that comes with youth, and have some very keen minds at the top of this pushing it down with clear cut plans and proven techniques.

    Beyond that they are the crowd that lives on social media and thrive on getting people to say things that compromise their positions in a very public forum. Religious reference aside, they are Legion, and they are many.
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