SHTF and Mag changes

[Shootersfab]

I think we need to practice both situations. Never know what you will run into..

[cstone]

If you don't scrounge, someone else will.

I am a packrat. I pick up just about anything if it looks like something I could use. A few times every year I have to go through the house and get rid of stuff I don't need or haven't used. This is the only thing that keeps me from becoming a hoarder.

If I was mobile, weight and space would be limiting factors. One of the things I miss about sailing is how it forces you to appreciate the value of simplicity and economy of everything on board.

The government couldn't teach scrounging. By definition government is the source of wastefulness. I don't believe it is possible to truly appreciate anything you haven't worked for and government doesn't create anything other than laws and dependents.

Some individuals both in the mil and LE just have a natural talent for scrounging and trading. They are valuable skills that can make you friends as well as enemies.

[Great-Kazoo]

If you don't scrounge, someone else will.

I am a packrat. I pick up just about anything if it looks like something I could use. A few times every year I have to go through the house and get rid of stuff I don't need or haven't used. This is the only thing that keeps me from becoming a hoarder.

If I was mobile, weight and space would be limiting factors. One of the things I miss about sailing is how it forces you to appreciate the value of simplicity and economy of everything on board.

The government couldn't teach scrounging. By definition government is the source of wastefulness. I don't believe it is possible to truly appreciate anything you haven't worked for and government doesn't create anything other than laws and dependents.

Some individuals both in the mil and LE just have a natural talent for scrounging and trading. They are valuable skills that can make you friends as well as enemies.

You know people like that?

I would do both,Or as i call it shoot & loot. The rest is for off line discussion.

[cstone]

You know people like that?

I would do both,Or as i call it shoot & loot. The rest is for off line discussion.

No one comes to mind. At least no one I would like to put a label on

[bruceleroy]

Practice both!!

[jerrymrc]

Some individuals both in the mil and LE just have a natural talent for scrounging and trading. They are valuable skills that can make you friends as well as enemies.

I have a sign by my "area" at work that says "Sanford and Son Junkyard". I try and impart my um, skills on some of the young soldiers of today.

[cstone]

I have a sign by my "area" at work that says "Sanford and Son Junkyard". I try and impart my um, skills on some of the young soldiers of today.

I once knew a guy whose philosophy was, "It ain't stealing if no one else is going to use it." He was a great resource for hard to find things, but I tried not to use him unless it was an absolute necessity. I would never ask where anything came from. At least in the military you knew that almost everything was being paid for by the taxpayers and you were using it to accomplish a mission. I'm not sure whether that justification compromised my ethics, but in the end, the mission always comes first.

I don't know if I have ever lived in a black and white world, but I can say that at least for the last forty years, my world has been various shades of gray. Way more than 50 shades

[MAP]

A few years ago I had a conversation with a former Delta operator. He said during the Black Hawk Down incident everyone was dropping their mags. It created a problem when the did an ammo drop during the night. His advise was to retain your mags if you can.

YMMV

Mike

[Mick-Boy]

A few years ago I had a conversation with a former Delta operator. He said during the Black Hawk Down incident everyone was dropping their mags. It created a problem when the did an ammo drop during the night. His advise was to retain your mags if you can.

YMMV

Mike

The ammo that was dropped to them was cases of 5.56 dropped in by the 160th guys. Not having their old mags meant they didn't have anything to load the ammo into. If SHTF I wouldn't expect resupply speedballs via helo.... But if you have that kind of capability... can we be friends?

[Tinelement]

Gonna attach my pouch to my gear next time out and start working on retaining my empty mags.

Thanks for all the input Gents!