List of places no one should be allowed to possess a firearm:

[cstone]

I would agree to a prohibition against firearms in any detention facility, including mental hospitals. As was mentioned, even the guards don't routinely carry. We always locked up our weapons when dropping off or picking up.

I apologize for not adding the caveat about private property. Property owners have the right to restrict access to people and things they do not consent to on their property. I was thinking more about publicly accessible areas and government controlled property. Government owned property belongs to the citizens and as a citizen, I consent to everyone who is legal to carry not be prohibited from carrying.
I think I have carried in just about all of the other places listed above. I feel special but it didn't actually make me any safer. In my previous life, we treated everyone as if they were armed and a potential threat. We often traveled with magnetometers and maintained cleared areas for approved access. We still considered everyone as a potential threat and possibly armed.

Let's just say I trust everyone right up till I have a reason not to, and I don't need much of a reason. You bring your gun, because I will have mine

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I would agree to a prohibition against firearms in any detention facility, including mental hospitals. As was mentioned, even the guards don't routinely carry. We always locked up our weapons when dropping off or picking up.

I apologize for not adding the caveat about private property. Property owners have the right to restrict access to people and things they do not consent to on their property. I was thinking more about publicly accessible areas and government controlled property. Government owned property belongs to the citizens and as a citizen, I consent to everyone who is legal to carry not be prohibited from carrying.
I think I have carried in just about all of the other places listed above. I feel special but it didn't actually make me any safer. In my previous life, we treated everyone as if they were armed and a potential threat. We often traveled with magnetometers and maintained cleared areas for approved access. We still considered everyone as a potential threat and possibly armed.

Let's just say I trust everyone right up till I have a reason not to, and I don't need much of a reason. You bring your gun, because I will have mine

I've kicked cops out the back door when they forgot to take their gun off.

I made one little punk wait outside for 45 minutes once.

"I don't take off my gun."

The Fuck you don't. Get out.

He sat in his little transport van for 45 minutes to think about what he'd done wrong.

[cstone]

Exactly. Fort Hood is a bad example too. That was more a friendly fire type incident. But that's a different discussion.

The fact that none of the people in the first video died is pretty amazing. But still. Nothing would have stopped that guy.

I believe in the first video, the attacker died of gun shot wounds inflicted by the officers shooting back. Something did stop that guy... armed good guys. The lesson I take from that video is that if others have a gun, I want one too.

Be safe.

[cstone]

I've kicked cops out the back door when they forgot to take their gun off.

I made one little punk wait outside for 45 minutes once.

"I don't take off my gun."

The Fuck you don't. Get out.

He sat in his little transport van for 45 minutes to think about what he'd done wrong.

Did you call his supervisor? I believe most officers are trained to secure their weapon before entering a lockup facility. Prolonging the booking time, to prove your point is a potential liability.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I believe in the first video, the attacker died of gun shot wounds inflicted by the officers shooting back. Something did stop that guy... armed good guys. The lesson I take from that video is that if others have a gun, I want one too.

Be safe.

Right right. I meant that no one could have stopped him before he was able to hurt someone else.

Yes. He did get stopped and did die. But only after he hurt others.

[dwalker460]

Right right. I meant that no one could have stopped him before he was able to hurt someone else.

Yes. He did get stopped and did die. But only after he hurt others.

Which is why anywhere others could even POSSIBLY be armed I want to be armed. You are proving out my point.

[Bailey Guns]

I had to laugh watching the skinny black dude get choked the fuck out. And I knew his ass was gonna get dragged over the counter and re-beat as soon as I saw the other cops round the corner. Bet it's a while before he tries that shit again.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Which is why anywhere others could even POSSIBLY be armed I want to be armed. You are proving out my point.

And I'm telling you that carrying a gun in a jail or a police station is a bad idea.

I'm not talking about anywhere other than a jail or police station.


Had you been in that station for some reason when that all happened and you pulled your gun, I can almost guarantee you would be dead. Not from the crazy guy. From the cop that thought you were with the crazy guy.

Don't argue with which you have no experience. You're not going to win, sir.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I had to laugh watching the skinny black dude get choked the fuck out. And I knew his ass was gonna get dragged over the counter and re-beat as soon as I saw the other cops round the corner. Bet it's a while before he tries that shit again.

I love that video... But, there were mistakes made.

[cstone]

Don't argue with which you have no experience. You're not going to win, sir.

This is the Internet. Nobody wins.

I would pull out my gun, depending on where I was and what my options are at the time.

As for people making mistakes... that happens every time people are involved. We watch the videos to improve the mistakes we will make the next time we are in that situation.