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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    Fort Hood was friendly fire?? WTF are you smoking? It was REAL domestic terrorism - murder, plain and simple. He was allowed to continue on his murdering spree for 10 minutes because no one on the installation was allowed to carry firearm.
    I should have explained.... I'm sure,given his rank, no one was second guessing his being there. A guy walking into a police station out of uniform is suspicious. A solider on base with a gun is less of a WTF situation.

    Does that make sense?

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    Fuel tanks on airplanes are self-sealing bladders, pistol rounds would have little effect. Pilots cabins are armored.

    Again, even BEFORE they had such luxuries, firearms were allowed on planes, and there was no terrorists attacks, hostage taking, etc. because the criminals never knew if the guy sitting next to him had a .38 in his back pocket, a Browning in his satchel, or a goose gun in the trunk behind him.

    SAFE ZONES are anything but. TSA is a joke. If you feel safe on a commercial flight I pity you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0 View Post
    I should have explained.... I'm sure,given his rank, no one was second guessing his being there. A guy walking into a police station out of uniform is suspicious. A solider on base with a gun is less of a WTF situation.

    Does that make sense?
    No not really. As someone who works on a military base every day... Despite being in a "very secure" area (inside of a secure area, which is in another secure area, which is inside of a military installation), I do not feel safe at all. I seriously feel like a sheep. "Oh something bad must've happened, I better go back to my office and hide!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0 View Post
    I should have explained.... I'm sure,given his rank, no one was second guessing his being there.
    No, ANYONE except an MP on post with a weapon of ANY KIND is immediately suspect, and a handgun even more so.
    Quote Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0 View Post
    A guy walking into a police station out of uniform is suspicious. A solider on base with a gun is less of a WTF situation.

    Does that make sense?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
    SAFE ZONES are anything but. TSA is a joke. If you feel safe on a commercial flight I pity you.
    ^Summary of this entire thread^
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
    Fuel tanks on airplanes are self-sealing bladders, pistol rounds would have little effect. Pilots cabins are armored.
    You've got more faith in technology than I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    ^Summary of this entire thread^
    Agreed.

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    YOU have more faith in security and human nature than I do. Tell you what, YOU can count on the guys who cant even get jobs as private security guards, I will count on myself to keep myself safe. Hows that?

    Bottom line, it borders on insanity to place so much trust in anyone or anything. I dont trust the guy next to me at a stoplight not to be completely drunk, I dont trust the guy at the bank to correctly count the money he hands me, I dont trust the credit card company to charge me the correct fees and credit me the correct interest, I dont trust the waiter not to bring me a Medium when I ordered medium rare. I check, double check, and take precautions. So why in Gods name would I trust ANYONE with my health and safety? Especially when they have proven over and over again to be inept, complacent, and generically ineffective?
    Its just insane man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwalker460 View Post
    YOU have more faith in security and human nature than I do. Tell you what, YOU can count on the guys who cant even get jobs as private security guards, I will count on myself to keep myself safe. Hows that?

    Bottom line, it borders on insanity to place so much trust in anyone or anything. I dont trust the guy next to me at a stoplight not to be completely drunk, I dont trust the guy at the bank to correctly count the money he hands me, I dont trust the credit card company to charge me the correct fees and credit me the correct interest, I dont trust the waiter not to bring me a Medium when I ordered medium rare. I check, double check, and take precautions. So why in Gods name would I trust ANYONE with my health and safety? Especially when they have proven over and over again to be inept, complacent, and generically ineffective?
    Its just insane man.
    Did you read #77?

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    My house.

    No one is allowed to possess here except me .....

    and those I authorize.... the rest are subject to lethal force. :-D

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