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    For anyone worried about handguns on planes and how dangerous they are, take a look at some videos of the damage a WWII fighter or bomber could absorb and still keep flying. And we're not talking handgun rounds...more like 20mm, artillery flak and really big, incendiary shit. And that was 40s technology.

    Personally, I'm not worried about guns on planes. Some of you guys make it sound like an otherwise rational, law-abiding person is gonna go apeshit and shoot the plane outta the sky just because he/she is allowed to carry on a plane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    For anyone worried about handguns on planes and how dangerous they are, take a look at some videos of the damage a WWII fighter or bomber could absorb and still keep flying. And we're not talking handgun rounds...more like 20mm, artillery flak and really big, incendiary shit. And that was 40s technology.

    Personally, I'm not worried about guns on planes. Some of you guys make it sound like an otherwise rational, law-abiding person is gonna go apeshit and shoot the plane outta the sky just because he/she is allowed to carry on a plane.
    That is not it at all. It is the captivity of the plane, kind of hard to evade on a plane. That reduces my defensive capacities. No cover except other bodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    That is not it at all. It is the captivity of the plane, kind of hard to evade on a plane. That reduces my defensive capacities. No cover except other bodies.
    You won't need to find cover... Just pee on yourself and the threat will go away!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    No cover except other bodies.
    Some people refer to this as "Shooting in the sea of heads." The next time you are sitting in a high number seat looking forward, while everyone is seated, you will see what I'm talking about.

    Fortunately, it doesn't happen very often
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCO View Post
    That is not it at all. It is the captivity of the plane, kind of hard to evade on a plane. That reduces my defensive capacities. No cover except other bodies.
    I understand, but even then... Devise a program similar to CLEAR or whatever it's called. Pre-screen properly licensed people who can carry. They're not likely to freak out and start shooting up the plane any more than an armed pilot is. And if the pilot freaks out there's little you can do anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    For anyone worried about handguns on planes and how dangerous they are, take a look at some videos of the damage a WWII fighter or bomber could absorb and still keep flying. And we're not talking handgun rounds...more like 20mm, artillery flak and really big, incendiary shit. And that was 40s technology.

    Personally, I'm not worried about guns on planes. Some of you guys make it sound like an otherwise rational, law-abiding person is gonna go apeshit and shoot the plane outta the sky just because he/she is allowed to carry on a plane.
    I only worry about snakes on a plane.

    The reality is though, commercial airliners are not going to be brought down by a bullet hole in the fuselage. It will probably screw up cabin pressure and make things bumpy, but the Hollywood explosive decompression really doesn't happen in aircraft unless they had more than a couple other structural issues going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    For anyone worried about handguns on planes and how dangerous they are, take a look at some videos of the damage a WWII fighter or bomber could absorb and still keep flying. And we're not talking handgun rounds...more like 20mm, artillery flak and really big, incendiary shit. And that was 40s technology.

    Personally, I'm not worried about guns on planes. Some of you guys make it sound like an otherwise rational, law-abiding person is gonna go apeshit and shoot the plane outta the sky just because he/she is allowed to carry on a plane.
    Um, planes back then were not pressurized and they rarely flew above levels that required oxygen until they were over their target area to try to get above the flak.

    True shooting a hole even in a pressurized plane is not going to cause catastrophic damage but it would definitely cause a lack of oxygen and the bullet could very well hit wires, hydraulics or spark an explosion in an empty fuel cell. Based on the regular reports of people freaking out on planes while in mid flight I will forego the right to carry a firearm on a plane at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    Based on the regular reports of people freaking out on planes while in mid flight I will forego the right to carry a firearm on a plane at this time.
    You may choose to forego that right, however, there is a laundry list of special people who are allowed to carry on board. If it was really that dangerous, I would think that list would be either be much smaller or completely done away with altogether.

    Given the type of searches conducted on people going into lockup facilities, I am more confident that they are not armed then I am with the possibility that passengers on the airplane are not armed.
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