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    I was just trying to point out that CCW holders have been vetted and are not just any Joe Shmoe with a gun. I do realize that police are further evaluated that the average CCW, my point is that both are scrutinized.

    I believe you should be allowed to carry most anywhere by just showing your permit. When was the last time any of us permit holder was asked to see proof that we have one? And when did showing that permit allow us to carry when others are prohibited. The general public doesn't seem to afford a permit holder any further privileges than the average gangbanger.

    I don't see the downside of holding anyone that takes away our right to defend our selves being held liable when we are attacked after they've disarmed us. I believe that it sets precedence that anybody that operates an open to the public facility can disarm law bidding people by simply posting a sign. It wont take long before having a CCW will only be effective as long as you are in your car. I believe allowing any public facility to disarm CCW holders undermines the entire privilege of being permit holder. If we were a constitutional carry state I may have a different view on this but I believe the permit should afford special privilege. I believe that as long as a state has a permit process the privileges that permit affords should not be allowed to be removed by anybody other than the governing body involved in issuing said permit.

    If a business does not want permit holders to carry they can operate in another state. I know that is a decision that most people here want every private business owner to make. I disagree, even as a business owner you don't have the right to disarm me as long as I have satisfied the requirements of this state to carry a gun. We already have carry laws pertaining to government buildings, alcohol, public transportation etc. I believe to prohibit anyone to carry in your business you need to show cause and acquire written approval from the governing body that issued the permit. Having a business comes with certain requirements and allowing permit holders to carry should be one of those requirements that you have to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big E3 View Post

    If a business does not want permit holders to carry they can operate in another state. I know that is a decision that most people here want every private business owner to make. I disagree, even as a business owner you don't have the right to disarm me as long as I have satisfied the requirements of this state to carry a gun. We already have carry laws pertaining to government buildings, alcohol, public transportation etc. I believe to prohibit anyone to carry in your business you need to show cause and acquire written approval from the governing body that issued the permit. Having a business comes with certain requirements and allowing permit holders to carry should be one of those requirements that you have to deal with.
    This statement is ridiculous. Do you think you should be allowed to tresspass as well, since you have a CCW?

    Businesses do not have "the right to disarm me", you, or anyone... They do have certain controls over their private property, the same way that you can control who enters your home with a weapon. If you don't like their policy, then don't give them your business. A CCW permit is not some "God card" that somehow means you can trample the rights of other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    A CCW permit is not some "God card" that somehow means you can trample the rights of other people.
    Yea, that would require a gay card

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