Deliberate Repost: Colorado Constitutional Amendment.

[Kraven251]

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/78681-Ma...onal+amendment

The original title, while clever, didn't get this concept the traction it required.

I am looking for our lawyers on the board, especially those that specialize in Constitutional law state/federal. I would also like to run this up the flagpole with RMGO, but I am willing to get this ball rolling and put some funds toward the effort to get a draft of a State Constitution amendment to give the people their voice back on the issue.

I know we want to vote as many of these guys out in 2014 as possible, but the legislators did an end around on a previous amendment with civil unions, so let's put our own play in action to do an end around on these bogus laws and trump them with the State Constitution.

This would require putting the proper language together, address specifics, and get it on the ballot. The politicians aren't listening, so let's help them hear us. No matter what passes into law, it will be a clear violation of our given right secured by the Second Amendment, and we need to move to set things right.

A long drawn out legal battle for each law will mean someone is getting their life dragged through the mud and are being crucified in most media, and could still end in setting precedent that none of us want to see happen. Let's direct that effort those resources, and get something that matters on a ballot for our State.

[TheGrey]

Does RMGO have a lobbyist? Will NRA help us?

[Kraven251]

I am sure we can get the support, but I would like to have some groundwork in place else we are asking them to do the work and supporting their action. While I think both organizations are looking out for our interests I believe something that started independently and gained their backing will have a much greater impact in the whole dog and pony show of the amendment process and getting this into the public eye.

[Faust]

Tagged for future followup. I refuse to be a bystander in the californication of Co and the nation.

[Zundfolge]

I also posted a followup to that original thread with actual text of a ballot initiative.

Ok, we gotta get this ball rolling somewhere.

So I've thrown together preliminary text for a possible constitutional amendment to put on the ballot (for those that haven't been paying attention or just moved here, here in Colorado the people can amend the state constitution via ballot initiative).

The rules are simple;

• The amendment must be on a single subject (and that single subject referenced in the title).
• To get on the ballot it must get enough signatures to get on the ballot (The number of signatures required for a successful petition is equal to 5% of the total number of votes cast for the office of Secretary of State in the preceding general election. so in this case 86,105).

With those in mind I've done my best to keep to the single subject and not cross any lines that would significantly reduce the number of people willing to sign (so no "constitutional carry" or codified rejection of Federal law or rejection of the NFA with the state borders ... even though I'd love to have all those things).

So I present the following ... get your highlighters and red markers out and let me know if this is remotely on the right track (any legal beagles out there we could REALLY use your help on the verbiage ... much of which I lifted from other successful ballot initiatives). I have a tendency to write run on sentences (although that seems to be a common trait of legislative language) and I tend to over use parenthetical statements (like this one).

Text edited out by foxtrot - the self confidence is nice, but this needs to be left to those whom have real experience. Thank you. The layperson is not qualified to write this, much less review it.

[Kraven251]

So I missed that thread apparently. My apologies. Though we still need to find ourselves a lawyer that can get this put together and have it proper.

To that end anyone know of any decent Constitutional Law folks?

[Mountain Man]

I have a Gun rights group and I have been trying to get the NRA more involved and after being told they were onboard for a whole bunch of stuff they stopped responding. The response from the NRA has been underwhelming do far.

[Zundfolge]

Well based on what foxtrot posted I guess it's time to admit we're just screwed. Guess I'll just sit here and wait for them to kick my door in and kill me (maybe I'll get a couple of them first).

Us proles are too dumb to do anything and if we're going to wait around for "experts" to do it (especially for free) well then it's just not going to happen.

Oh well, I put my two pesos worth in.

[Trisha]

Hon, I'd be more than willing to take it to our attorney (was Park County ADA and ran for judge). He's good enough to understand the framework but he's expensive - call it $1,000 to make the first appointment and lay out the desired specific. That means I will do it if funded!

He's Sean Paris.

[Kraven251]

Hon, I'd be more than willing to take it to our attorney (was Park County ADA and ran for judge). He's good enough to understand the framework but he's expensive - call it $1,000 to make the first appointment and lay out the desired specific. That means I will do it if funded!

He's Sean Paris.

I'll start getting funds together and reach out to some of my contacts not on CoAR, and see if they know any lawyers that fit the bill too. I was hoping to get this started with members from here and was not expecting the work to be pro bono.

I appreciate the recommendation and I'll definitely be in touch with you about Sean Paris. I also assume he is pro-2A, but I have to ask.