Arguing with Vegans

[th3w01f]

This is such a refreshing debate after arguing the 2nd Amendment with people who obviously won’t listen to reason. Not that I think the vegans will but at least they’re not passing laws to outlaw meat……. yet….

This pretty much sums up my argument.... along with pointing out that they'd be pretty low on the survival of the fittest scale without modern farming.

[motohooligan]

Have you heard of "No Meat Mondays"? F&*%ing Kalifonia.

[th3w01f]

Have you heard of "No Meat Mondays"? F&*%ing Kalifonia.

Isn't that being intolerant of gays?

Maybe I should look at it before commenting.

[motohooligan]

Isn't that being intolerant of gays?

^^^^ I see what you did there.

[th3w01f]

And I don't care if people want to be vegans but it's pretty messed up to post animal slaughter pictures on FB and try to use that to justify their stance. It's kind of Michael Moorish to me.

One of them actually said this word for word.

Do you think slavery was ever the right thing? How about murder and rape? I think anything that takes away another beings right to live a productive, healthy life is wrong. I draw the line on vegetables

And a different one

The only law of nature most people really adhere to is the one that lets them feed their greedy guts in any way they see fit. The other laws of nature? We call them stealing; murder; rape; and so on.

Jeeze, if I walked around all day feeling like everyone eating a hamburger was doing something akin to raping someone I'd probably be against guns too..... other than the one I have of course.

[motohooligan]

Tis a sad world we live in. To quote a better man than I, "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety."

[Katastrophic]

Well said. We came across this person because she is an old acquaintance from HS that found me via FB. I get so frustrated by those that lack true common sense. Although there are those out there (probably the same people) that believe that the new anti A2 laws are common sense. Where did society go wrong? I've always believed that I was born in the wrong era....

[BPTactical]

You can't argue with a Vegan, they have a defective thought process.
Anybody that doesn't eat meat has a defective thought process.

[cofi]

i was a vegetarian for about 8 years(hell i just started eating meat again last year) it was allright the main sucky thing is eating out it really cuts like 90% of your options at any given place

[JohnTRourke]

The problem with Vegans isn't that it's a diet, it's that it's a religion. You can't argue with people in a religion and they all have to try and convert you.

BTW, the following is from http://www.fathead-movie.com/

If you saw Super Size Me, you know Morgan Spurlock’s girlfriend at the time (later wife, later ex-wife) fed him a “purifying” vegan diet after his all-McDonald’s diet. (And it took him six months to lose 20 pounds on that diet.) She was known as a vegan chef for many years.
Now she’s had her own Lierre Keith moment and declared that she’s no longer a vegan. From her blog:

I thought many of the world’s problems could be solved if more people ate this way. We could end hunger if we fed grain to people instead of cattle. We could end global warming if we reduced the fertilizer, trucking and refrigeration required to produce meat. We could end the obesity epidemic.
What I ate aligned with what I believed. And that was that. But then, a few years ago, something began to shift.
My body started craving the “bad” stuff. Namely, meat.
It used to be that, when a friend ordered a burger out at dinner, I was slightly (though quietly) disgusted. But I started noticing a different reaction.
Instead of disgust, I started to salivate.
The impulse to order salmon instead of salad with tofu at my favorite restaurant was overwhelming. And, for me as a vegan, it was confusing, too.
At first, I thought: “I must be mineral deficient. Or maybe I need more concentrated protein. I’ll eat more sea vegetables. I’ll just add more nuts and hemp seeds and drink more green juice. Then the cravings will stop.”
I denied these cravings and tried to “talk my body out of them”.

It’s this part of her post that was bound to rile up the vegan zealots:

I began to see my cravings for animal foods from a different angle. It wasn’t immoral or wrong. It just was.
In fact, I came to believe that trusting your body, living your truth, whether it be vegan, part-time vegan, flexitarian or carnivore is all inherently good.

The reaction from the vegan zealots was predictable: she wasn’t it doing it right, ya see. (Really? A vegan advocate, chef and author wasn’t doing it right?)

Or my favorite: she was never really a vegan, ya see.

One of the books Jamieson wrote was Vegan Cooking For Dummies. Given the reaction to her announcement, I’d say that title was more appropriate than she imagined at the time.