Enforce What?

[mtnhack]

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So I have one. If you are from out of state and move here with a mag dated after July 1, 2013 A.F. (After Fuckheads) am I allowed to move here with them?</p>

[KestrelBike]

The bill says the burden of proof is on the prosecution; however Sen. Lundberg (I think it was him) said during the lop-sided "debate" on Friday that generally what might happen is that the mag and the weapon will be confiscated as evidence.
Since it will be expensive to defend yourself in court, a plea bargain will be entered in which the defendant gives up the mag and gun in exchange for the prosecution dropping the charges.

Also, if one can't distinguish one mag fro another, one cannot prove that the "receipt" one has , or the picture with the newspaper one has etc. applies to THAT specific mag. So as you point out, it is impossible, in most cases, to prove the mag was yours before 01JUL13. Even for mags WITH date codes or that are not made anymore, it is difficult to prove that YOU owned it before 01JUL13 and did not get it from a buddy on 02JUL13.

In theory, every range could be visited by "the mag police" , and you could be "challenged" each tie you pull out a mag.

x1000000. I thought at first of dremel'ing all my soon-to-be-"legal" pmags of their date-stamp, but this is not a good scenario to test. in the *very* remote chance that a cop sees dremel marks, that might in some BS manner give him "probable" cause to hold the mags as evidence until you prove yourself innocent. IE Plea bargain in which you give up your property.

[sniper7]

Fuck that. It is up to the prosecution to prove you didn't own it. Bring in your evidence like pictures with newspaper or a dated receipt or the order confirmation from magpul and tell the prosecution to kiss your ass without a lawyer. Plus the dated ones prior to July 2013 are even more proof.

[roberth]

Who is going to check our magazines? Does anyone think law enforcement has time for this shit? They have better things to do than check date codes on magazines, especially since the assumption can be made that if you're out and about with magazines you very likely owned them prior to 7/1/13.

[ChunkyMonkey]

I will not comply!

[Fmedges]

Anybody that tries to disarm me for a bullshit reason is going to pay with their life, period.

[Bailey Guns]

Fuck that. It is up to the prosecution to prove you didn't own it. Bring in your evidence like pictures with newspaper or a dated receipt or the order confirmation from magpul and tell the prosecution to kiss your ass without a lawyer. Plus the dated ones prior to July 2013 are even more proof.

I wouldn't offer them shit. If they can prove it, then prove it.

[ben4372]

Yeah I'd get on this if I were you.


Hell, I've been buying mags for guns I don't even own in the event I do end up buying one.

I though I was the only one that did this kind of nonsense. I bought a gun once because I got the mags on sale.

[james_bond_007]

I'm going back for two weeks at the end of May, I was just curious. The question is since I already own the mags, and I'm a resident of Colorado, would bringing them across state lines be Illegal?

If doing this before 01JUL13 - NO
Not unless you drove through a state that has them banned (such as NY; note- I'm not implying that you might go through NY, just using it as an example).

If doing this on/after 01JUL13 - YES
The bill also says you must own and maintain continuous possession of the mags being grandfathered in.
Note: Continuous Possession is not defined in the bill
In a case where you own them, and they are located in TENN, and you try to bring them back after 01JUL13, you MAY have not satisfied the "maintain continuous possession" clause.

[ben4372]

Does it address travel? as in going to Wyoming. then coming back across the border.