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not from the factory, but I guarantee someone will make a permanent kit to modify capacity.Originally Posted by d_striker
http://www.ebrwebstore.com/EBR_Works_Exclusives.html/
http://www.vaportrails.us/html/xdm.html
there are multiple websites and posts addressing the mods.
http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/xd-m-di...ifornia-3.html
post 25 says a business stocks them.
Last edited by HBARleatherneck; 03-12-2013 at 10:56.
If an OEM does not make the mags, how can one get the gun to start with?
they are doing it all over california just google the question. i found the answer on several forums in just a few seconds. calguns, xdtalk and others.
Great. Now we can look to CA for gun advice. That makes me feel so warm and fuzzy inside...
It will be extremely difficult. I travel to CA often and I take my XDM 5.25 out with me. The GUN is completely legal to own there... but the 19 round magazines are not. So I had a few of my 19 round magazines permanently converted to 10-rounders and I take those. My buddies and coworkers all clamor to shoot my 5.25 when we go to the range because they can't get their hands on them there. They are sold to law enforcement (since they can have 19 rounds) but they aren't available to the general public.
That is the part that sucks about this bill once it passes. If the ten 19-round magazines I have for my two 5.25's are lost, stolen, break or just eventually wear out... it will render those firearms useless since I can't purchase more and nobody manufacturers 15-rounders for it. My only hope will be some state who can have the 19-rounders, permanently convert them to 15 rounders for me and then ship them to me.
That's not exactly correct. The reason they want to shoot it is because the XDM is not on the roster of approved handguns in Cali. The mags have nothing to do with it.
Recently someone at work asked me if the recent proposals reminded me of living in California. He didn't understand at first when I said Colorado still has a long way to go. Be thankful we don't have a VERY specific list of handguns we can buy and a specific list of long guns we can't.
The "k" is silent.
Is one of the reasons it isn't on the roster because it doesn't have 10-round magazines and SA refuses to make a 10-round magazine for it? My XD9 subcompact is on the list (they make a 10-round CA compliant magazine for it).
In other words... is there a way to make the approved list without compliant magazines? There is no way to sell that firearm in a local Cabellas, Bass Pro, Sportsman's Warehouse, etc... to the general public without 10-round magazines which SA still doesn't make for the XDM... so the list seems like a moot point. My friends back in CA won't be able to purchase the firearm in a gun store without a CA compliant magazine (unless gun stores are able to part the firearms with magazines before selling but I doubt manufacturers would allow them to do that).
Last edited by brobar; 03-12-2013 at 13:25.
if you read some of the links I posted, you will see how it works. companies out of state are doing the modification and shipping the pistols that way. they are doing a single shot conversion. they call it SSE (single shot exemption) here is the link http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...+shot+exemtion . it costs $100 something bucks and after inspection you could hypothetically change it back, using the converted magazines.
http://www.ebrwebstore.com/EBR_Works_Exclusives.html/
table rock arms i guess does them too. IT IS BEING DONE IN CALIFORNIA.
if they have passed the registration in the single shot mode then they are good even though they arent on the list.
Last edited by HBARleatherneck; 03-12-2013 at 13:41.
To get on the list the manufacturer has to send a certian number of pistols in for testing. They have to send one of EVERY variation they want on the list and this is what causes problems. For instance having a different barrel length, slide, frame (like a beaver tail), and even finish means it's a different gun. You can see the list at http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/. That doesn't account for LA city which has an overall size restriction so a lot of 2" revolvers and that kind of thing can't be purchased there.
A resident can not import an off-list gun BUT anyone moving to the state can bring whatever they want and then sell it after they become residents. I guess there are people who buy a bunch of STI frames or whatever and sell them at a sizable markup when they move into the state. This does not apply to the magazines. There's the "rebuild kit" work around but for guns that didn't exist before the ban it's not helpful. Mags would have to be permanently converted to 10 rounders.
The magazine thing is its own weird thing. You can't manufacture, purchase, import, or sell magazines over 10 rounds but there's no law against posession. Weird, huh? That's how you can order a rebuild kit consisting of a tube, spring, follower, and floorplate for all the magazines you totally had before the ban or found in a gutter.
The "k" is silent.
IF, a pistol or magazine that holds more than 15rds is on someones wish list, right now might be a really good time to think about moving ahead with that. Once mid-June rolls around, you can be all but certain that discounts are not going to be given to CO residents who are on their final days of purchase eligibility. I do not hold it against the capitalists who will be making some serious profit in those final days as anyone that waits that long gets their just rewards for procrastination.
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