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    Quote Originally Posted by two shoes View Post
    I have stood up for the rights of all people, no matter color, creed, race, religion or sexual orientation.... but I do not see any reciprocation for 'my' RTBA....
    Take the high road... As my BDE Chaplain once said "If you treat others well and fair, but they do not treat you well or fairly, you just proved to God and, more importantly, yourself, that you can be and are the better man."
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    Republicans continued the usual dumb-fuckery by trying to amend this bill to allow the license clerk to with hold the marriage license if they held a personal religious belief that was against gay marriage. This is the equivalent of the DMV clerk denying the renewal of your Driver's License because of his or her personal religious beliefs. Way to continue to be unelectable Republicans, thanks for all the new gun control. Don't say you're for less goverent if you don't mean it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merl View Post
    yeah, this sums it up very well.
    http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/bl...-off-everybody

    don't skip the update at the bottom. wonder what state his friend was in.
    Good read merl... feel like I am done with others fights and concentrate on my own, with like minded individuals. LOVED the "AMFs" at the end and the update is sad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by two shoes View Post
    I have stood up for the rights of all people, no matter color, creed, race, religion or sexual orientation.... but I do not see any reciprocation for 'my' RTBA....
    Were you standing up for the rights of all people back in the late 1960's when the police were regularly raiding gay nightclubs and arresting gays for congregating?

    That stupid article that Zundfolge posted only does further damage to all causes. One could simply say, "Where were the gays to stand up for us back in 1934?!" We can dick measure about who turned their back on whom first, until the origin of time. It is a continuous Chicken or the Egg question, and it doesn't mayyer when it started, only when it ends. People can step up and put their "less government" money where their "less government" mouths are, or we can just continue to fuck each other over in the face of a common enemy like we do every election when we vote for the lesser evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by two shoes View Post
    I have stood up for the rights of all people, no matter color, creed, race, religion or sexual orientation.... but I do not see any reciprocation for 'my' RTBA....
    I'm one of them, and I believe that if the republican party REALLY wants to make a comeback it has to go back to its old school roots of personal liberties and keeping government out of people's personal lives. That would also include keeping religion out of politics, and they need to take a step back and really weed out the messes they have created among their own party. Freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Republicans continued the usual dumb-fuckery by trying to amend this bill to allow the license clerk to with hold the marriage license if they held a personal religious belief that was against gay marriage. This is the equivalent of the DMV clerk denying the renewal of your Driver's License because of his or her personal religious beliefs. Way to continue to be unelectable Republicans, thanks for all the new gun control. Don't say you're for less goverent if you don't mean it.
    Yup! Totally agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epyon View Post
    I'm one of them, and I believe that if the republican party REALLY wants to make a comeback it has to go back to its old school roots of personal liberties and keeping government out of people's personal lives. That would also include keeping religion out of politics, and they need to take a step back and really weed out the messes they have created among their own party. Freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion.
    Well said. I'm not sure the GOP is capable of being this honest with itself. If it were, the time to do so was well before this last election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Were you standing up for the rights of all people back in the late 1960's when the police were regularly raiding gay nightclubs and arresting gays for congregating?

    That stupid article that Zundfolge posted only does further damage to all causes. One could simply say, "Where were the gays to stand up for us back in 1934?!" We can dick measure about who turned their back on whom first, until the origin of time. It is a continuous Chicken or the Egg question, and it doesn't mayyer when it started, only when it ends. People can step up and put their "less government" money where their "less government" mouths are, or we can just continue to fuck each other over in the face of a common enemy like we do every election when we vote for the lesser evil.
    two shoes did not exist in the sixties, 1960's nor 1860's nor 1760's...

    I understand fighting the "good fight" and doing so for nothing more than knowing it is the right thing to do.... Just frustrated that it is like this.

    When choosing between the lesser of two evils, no matter which the choice, is still evil...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epyon View Post
    I'm one of them, and I believe that if the republican party REALLY wants to make a comeback it has to go back to its old school roots of personal liberties and keeping government out of people's personal lives. That would also include keeping religion out of politics, and they need to take a step back and really weed out the messes they have created among their own party. Freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion.
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by two shoes View Post
    two shoes did not exist in the sixties, 1960's nor 1860's nor 1760's...

    I understand fighting the "good fight" and doing so for nothing more than knowing it is the right thing to do.... Just frustrated that it is like this.

    When choosing between the lesser of two evils, no matter which the choice, is still evil...
    I wasn't alive either, which makes it difficult for me to pound my chest about all the times I've been thrown under the bus, when some of the people I'm screaming at have been thrown under the bus long before I was born.
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