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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    What does Freedom From Religion mean to each of you? Unless the definition is agreed upon, the argument is not going to accomplish much.
    It means one cannot be forced to adhere to the rules of any religion. The First Amendment, as quoted above, restricts the government (to be clear, this applies to every level of government, not just Federal) from passing legislation which imposes religious beliefs. In keeping with the spirit of every other right guaranteed to Americans: you are free to practice any religion, in any way, as long as it does not infringe on the rights of another; you cannot be forced to practice any religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Epyon View Post
    Nice try, I never specified what kind of violence they are defending themselves against whether it was domestic violence or an attacker trying to carry out a hate crime. Your statistics hold nothing, it doesn't even make a mention of use of a firearm in homosexual domestic violence. Add to the fact that the Family Research Institute has religious bias tied into their views. I should also mention that you're entitled to throw numbers at a personal opinion all you want, even if you have no idea what my broad statement is about.
    http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosex...estic_Violence
    "In regards to homosexual couples and domestic violence, studies indicate that as a whole homosexual couples have higher rates of promiscuity than heterosexual couples. In addition, studies report that homosexual couples have significantly higher incidences of violent behavior which will be covered shortly. These studies are not surprising at all given what pathologists have stated regarding the commonness and brutality of homosexual murders."

    http://www.advocate.com/health/menta...rtner-violence

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosex...estic_Violence
    "In regards to homosexual couples and domestic violence, studies indicate that as a whole homosexual couples have higher rates of promiscuity than heterosexual couples. In addition, studies report that homosexual couples have significantly higher incidences of violent behavior which will be covered shortly. These studies are not surprising at all given what pathologists have stated regarding the commonness and brutality of homosexual murders."

    http://www.advocate.com/health/menta...rtner-violence

    http://www.massresistance.org/
    Wow. Yeah, that doesn't sound biased at all. . .

    I heard all gun-owners are deranged sociopaths, hell-bent on the destruction of civilization with their mass-murder machines. Oh, and they all have small penises.
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    Davsel, I'd like to personally thank you for this state's five newest gun laws. Pat yourself on the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    Wow. Yeah, that doesn't sound biased at all. . .

    I heard all gun-owners are deranged sociopaths, hell-bent on the destruction of civilization with their mass-murder machines. Oh, and they all have small penises.

    Perhaps you could provide a link to historical statistics to back that claim?

    Even when statistics point to facts you are not comfortable with, the truth remains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Davsel, I'd like to personally thank you for this state's five newest gun laws. Pat yourself on the back.
    Seriously?
    I do not agree with celebrating homosexuality, and you somehow twist that into me being personally responsible for Colorado gun laws passing?
    Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Perhaps you could provide a link to historical statistics to back that claim?

    Even when statistics point to facts you are not comfortable with, the truth remains.
    Pointing to "statistics" on conservapedia is akin to Rhonda Fields posting on her Facebook page that "92% of Americans support universal background checks." You can't poll a cross section of 0.5% of the population and then apply those statistics to everyone as if it is undeniable truth. Don't look now, but your irrational prejudice is showing.

    It's none of your business what other people do in their personal lives. Unless there's two dudes blowing each other on your front porch and you can't get to your car, get over yourself and move on with your life. It doesn't affect you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    Pointing to "statistics" on conservapedia is akin to Rhonda Fields posting on her Facebook page that "92% of Americans support universal background checks." You can't poll a cross section of 0.5% of the population and then apply those statistics to everyone as if it is undeniable truth. Don't look now, but your irrational prejudice is showing.

    It's none of your business what other people do in their personal lives. Unless there's two dudes blowing each other on your front porch and you can't get to your car, get over yourself and move on with your life. It doesn't affect you.
    Um, no, it is not "akin."
    Opinion polls != statistics

    I agree, it is none of my business what other people do in their personal lives. However, when they bring their personal lives into public, it certainly becomes my business as a member of the public.
    If you want me to stay out of your personal business, keep it personal.
    What you really want, is for me to approve, condone, promote, accept, tolerate, etc. your "personal business." That is not something I will ever do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    Seriously?
    I do not agree with celebrating homosexuality, and you somehow twist that into me being personally responsible for Colorado gun laws passing?
    Seriously?
    If you support and encourage elected officials who engaged in the filibuster to prevent the Civil Union debate lasy year, then yes I hold you responsible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    If you support and encourage elected officials who engaged in the filibuster to prevent the Civil Union debate lasy year, then yes I hold you responsible.
    I am still not understanding the correlation between last year's filibuster over Civil Unions and the recent gun control bills.
    I do not want to jump to any conclusions as to what you intend. Can you please explain?

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