In other CO legislative news- CO General Assembly Passes Civil Unions Bill

[Ronin13]

Human Rights Campaign (a pro-gay movement, kind of a misleading name) President said this:

The Colorado legislature has taken a definitive step forward in the march toward equality. The passage of civil unions in the Centennial State is further proof that full equality for committed and loving gay and lesbian couples is in sight. From now on LGBT couples in Colorado will no longer be legal strangers in the eyes of their state, but rather recognized and supported by the law.

You can read the full story, but it looks to be that now it has to go to Hick and we become the 18th state to "provide the equivalent of state-level spousal rights to same-sex couples."

http://www.hrc.org/blog/entry/civil-unions-pass-in-colorado

[Teufelhund]

I couldn't care less. The government doesn't belong in my bedroom or my marriage, and it doesn't belong in anyone else's either. Gay/straight/democrat/liberal - make friends, introduce them to the shooting sports, teach them firearm safety, take them to the range, teach them how to defend their self and their families, stay out of their private lives.

[Ronin13]

I just posted as an FYI, not taking any side- but I am happy that they call it Civil Unions and not "Marriage"... I still see a separation between the two.

[brobar]

Just to get the ball rolling in here... the term "marriage" has no real effect on the relationship me and my wife have. We would be just as content and happy if it were a "civil union". I think they should do away with marriage certificates and make it to where EVERYONE, who wanted the benefits that go along with a "marriage", had to go get a civil union. That takes the term marriage away from the state (where it doesn't belong) and puts it right back in the chapel. It seems like a win-win for everybody. Everyone gets the equal rights and treated the same. And for those of you who believe in a biblical definition of the word "marriage" you still have the ability to have a marriage ceremony at your chapel or place of choice with your ordained minister or individual of choice and the blessings of your particular god and family and friends. Gay people getting married has no effect on MY marriage. And if we flipped the boat... I bet my civil union with my wife would have no effect on the civil unions of gay couples. I wish that is the route states would take. You "save traditional marriage" and everyone gets the same rights and SHOULD be happy. I have a feeling some people wouldn't be happy with that though. Just a hunch! hehe

[asmo]

Now the question, to get us back on topic, is -- do two partners in a recognized 'civil union' get the same benefits for 'transfer' under our new Universal Background Check law?

[Ronin13]

Just to get the ball rolling in here... the term "marriage" has no real effect on the relationship me and my wife have. We would be just as content and happy if it were a "civil union". I think they should do away with marriage certificates and make it to where EVERYONE, who wanted the benefits that go along with a "marriage", had to go get a civil union. That takes the term marriage away from the state (where it doesn't belong) and puts it right back in the chapel. It seems like a win-win for everybody. Everyone gets the equal rights and treated the same. And for those of you who believe in a biblical definition of the word "marriage" you still have the ability to have a marriage ceremony at your chapel or place of choice with your ordained minister or individual of choice and the blessings of your particular god and family and friends. Gay people getting married has no effect on MY marriage. And if we flipped the boat... I bet my civil union with my wife would have no effect on the civil unions of gay couples. I wish that is the route states would take. You "save traditional marriage" and everyone gets the same rights and SHOULD be happy. I have a feeling some people wouldn't be happy with that though. Just a hunch! hehe

THIS! Well said. That's what I've been saying the entire time, and every subsequent time this subject gets debated among my friends- a UNION is recognized by the state, a MARRIAGE is recognized by the Church.

[Epyon]

I couldn't care less. The government doesn't belong in my bedroom or my marriage, and it doesn't belong in anyone else's either. Gay/straight/democrat/liberal - make friends, introduce them to the shooting sports, teach them firearm safety, take them to the range, teach them how to defend their self and their families, stay out of their private lives.

Thank you! I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks this way. I think it's fair to say if gun owners want to maintain their rights, the best way is to encourage people from all walks of life to exercise their Constitutional rights. I'm always on the lookout to educate ethnic minorities and the non-hetero community on their rights as Americans. If we want freedom and equality for all, let's walk the walk instead of letting our prejudices isolate us as citizens. I can happily say that out of all the gun shops I've walked into ever, only ONE has ever been racist towards me. It didn't stop me from maintaining my rights because I went elsewhere.

[merl]

so this issue that got the D thier majority got sidelined to rush through the gun debacle... fucking lovely, this should have been the first bill they passed.

[two shoes]

Thank you! I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks this way. I think it's fair to say if gun owners want to maintain their rights, the best way is to encourage people from all walks of life to exercise their Constitutional rights. I'm always on the lookout to educate ethnic minorities and the non-hetero community on their rights as Americans. If we want freedom and equality for all, let's walk the walk instead of letting our prejudices isolate us as citizens. I can happily say that out of all the gun shops I've walked into ever, only ONE has ever been racist towards me. It didn't stop me from maintaining my rights because I went elsewhere.

I have stood up for the rights of all people, no matter color, creed, race, religion or sexual orientation.... but I do not see any reciprocation for 'my' RTBA....

[merl]

I have stood up for the rights of all people, no matter color, creed, race, religion or sexual orientation.... but I do not see any reciprocation for 'my' RTBA....

yeah, this sums it up very well.
http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/bl...-off-everybody

don't skip the update at the bottom. wonder what state his friend was in.