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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    Given the results of the 2012 election, do we really want this put to a popular vote?
    Absolutely, It is a midterm election which always favors the minority party and the gun owners of Colorado will be out in force. This issue will do the same for us that Civil Unions did for the Dems in the last election. If it doesn't pass, then we have our answer that it is time to move out of Colorado.
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    props to the two dudes. They should get free membership here at Ar-15.co!
    Hope it works out as planned.
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    Repeal background checks too, bogus, no more trading with neighbors etc. I Guarantee there is no facts proving these guns, from this site, show up in crimes.

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    Two Littleton men have filed a proposed ballot measure that seeks to undo proposed legislation that would limit ammunition magazines of more than 15 rounds.
    The measure was filed Tuesday, one day after the Democratic-controlled Senate passed a bill limiting magazine rounds.
    Tim LeVier and J.T. Davis want voters to decide the issue in the 2014 election. Neither could be reached for comment.
    House Bill 1224 is a part of a far-reaching package of Democratic gun control legislation that Republicans and Second Amendment activists have denounced as unworkable and unconstitutional.
    The proposed ballot measure would amend the state' constitution so that only Colorado voters can decide whether to limit or restrict ammunition storage and devices.
    The proposal was submitted to the nonpartisan Legislative Council, the first in a number of steps in getting an issue on the ballot.
    House Bill 1224 — which is sponsored by Rep. Rhonda Fields, D-Aurora — is going back to the House, so lawmakers there can consider amendments to the bill made in the Senate.
    It originally passed through the House in February and Gov. John Hickenlooper has indicated he will sign the bill into law if it arrives at his desk.
    If HB 1224 becomes law, anyone who currently possesses a magazine that holds more than 15 rounds is able to keep it, though if they transfer or sell the magazine, that individual would face a class 2 misdemeanor charge.
    "People can do a ballot measure" Fields said. "That's something they have a right to do."
    On Monday, a pair of Republican Senators said they would not abide by law.
    "I will willfully and purposefully and civilly disobey this law," said Sen. Greg Brophy, R-Wray.
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    Here's the wording of the proposed ballot initiative.

    http://putittothepeople.blogspot.com/

    Note that this would amend the law making it a requirement that magazine limits would have to be put to a vote, rather than being left up to the legislature. It's not a perfect solution, but it's a much more reasonable concept than 1224.
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    Good to see a lot being done
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    I do hope other avenues are being explored though... Constitutional amendments are rough. I know all eyes are on New York right now but I hope we get some similar motion here in Colorado, in re: court challenges, etc.

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    So, you want to defeat an unconstitutional law by inserting an unconstitutional clause into the State's constitution?
    Brilliant!

    News flash: Your vote no longer matters (see Obama 2012) - The final count has already been decided.
    Your time and energy are better spent preparing for troubling times ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davsel View Post
    So, you want to defeat an unconstitutional law by inserting an unconstitutional clause into the State's constitution? Brilliant! News flash: Your vote no longer matters (see Obama 2012) - The final count has already been decided. Your time and energy are better spent preparing for troubling times ahead.
    Can you elaborate on why you think that would be "an unconstitutional clause"? One would think that amending the constitution makes whatever it says constitutional. For example, you can amend the constitution to nullify any other clause, so one would think that any new clause supercedes any prior clause, and thus cannot be unconstitutional, by definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rifleman View Post
    Can you elaborate on why you think that would be "an unconstitutional clause"? One would think that amending the constitution makes whatever it says constitutional. For example, you can amend the constitution to nullify any other clause, so one would think that any new clause supercedes any prior clause, and thus cannot be unconstitutional, by definition.
    Referring to US Constitution. Magazine limits = unconstitutional; whether they are voted on by the legislature or the population of a state.

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