As we move closer to July 1st...

[Rucker61]

If you Buy an AR for $1,000... Then turn around and sell it right away for $2,000... Without being an FFL... You've violated the law.

If you built an AR from parts for $1,000 and sell it for $1,500... You've violated the law.

Is there a time period distinction?

[blacklabel]

This is what I was referring to:

(C) as applied to a dealer in firearms, as defined in section 921 (a)(11)(A), a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms, but such term shall not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms;

18 USC § 921 - Definitions

The only item that I can find contradictory to this is the following from the ATF:

Q: Is it legal to assemble a firearm from commercially available parts kits that can be purchased via internet or shotgun news?
For your information, per provisions of the Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968, 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44, an unlicensed individual may make a “firearm” as defined in the GCA for his own personal use, but not for sale or distribution.

ATFFirearms Technology FAQ

I would interpret this to mean that if one manufactures say an AK out of a flat, they would be manufacturing a firearm but if one is simply building an already 100% AR lower, the firearm (100% lower receiver) is already manufactured.

Fine print - I'm not a lawyer, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

[John123]

Crazy, Ill keep them. Ive got 4 nieces and nephews that need one to inherit. I cant see how try to sell 4 lowers, that I can not make into complete rifles is manufacturing. I would be getting ammo or a new scope for current rifles. I guess better safe than sorry.

[ChunkyMonkey]

If you Buy an AR for $1,000... Then turn around and sell it right away for $2,000... Without being an FFL... You've violated the law.

If you built an AR from parts for $1,000 and sell it for $1,500... You've violated the law.

You are incorrect. They must prove beyond reasonable doubt that you are doing it regularly and as your main source of income. That being said, the big brother can bankrupt any of us by simply open a case that will drag for months.

[BlasterBob]

Read "C" real close where it mentions AS A REGULAR COURSE OF TRADE also it states won't include an occasional sale etc.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I don't believe that. What if you suddenly determine that the AR that you just bought turns out to be defective and is a piece of crap. You want to get rid of it as soon as possible and some guy wants it for parts only. So what if you do make some big bucks on it - it would be a one time type transaction and not a regular thing of making profit........ If making some profit on an occasional firearm sale is illegal, there will be a hell of a lot of guys seriously breaking the law.

Is there a time period distinction?

This is what I was referring to:



18 USC § 921 - Definitions

The only item that I can find contradictory to this is the following from the ATF:



ATFFirearms Technology FAQ

I would interpret this to mean that if one manufactures say an AK out of a flat, they would be manufacturing a firearm but if one is simply building an already 100% AR lower, the firearm (100% lower receiver) is already manufactured.

Fine print - I'm not a lawyer, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

You are incorrect. They must prove beyond reasonable doubt that you are doing it regularly and as your main source of income. That being said, the big brother can bankrupt any of us by simply open a case that will drag for months.

Read "C" real close where it mentions AS A REGULAR COURSE OF TRADE also it states won't include an occasional sale etc.

Very fine line, really... But I think we all know what can happen when you toe a line.

It's a simple warning is all... Watch what you say you're going to do.

[ben4372]

The serial numbered receiver is the firearm. Though I believe a complete gun requires an excise tax if you are a manufacturer. I've heard the BATFE trying to go after dealers for changing stocks, calling them manufacturers. Either way quit worrying about it.

[NightCat]

Technically speaking, and as stated by another, I am not a lawyer, and also did not stay in a Holiday Inn express last night....

But as Ben said, isn't the Lower the actual "Firearm"

And a Complete AR is no different from the Stripped lower, because it's still a "firearm" regardless of what is attached to the Lower, given it isn't an NFA Item.

So...to buy a Lower is the same as buying a complete gun...legally at least.

Regardless, fuck this bullshit...the end

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[Regardless, fuck this bullshit...the end]

100% Agreed.

[KevDen2005]

I wish I could find ammo to actually put into my guns...

And I do get a kick out of everyone attacking nynco...I have this feeling that he says certain things just to piss everyone off and then watches everyone lose their shit when he posts anything. It's a sick game if it's a game, but I have no doubt he loves to mess with everyone here.