So, Anybody in the thick of it??

[HunterCO]

What if it were us protesting the Dem's stance on the second amendment? If we were told to leave the area they "told" us we could use and then started spraying us with pepper spray and arresting us? I guess that would be OK.

There in lies the problem they were not in a place allowed the street was blocked off earlier in the day so they could protest. Those damn cops had the nerve to re-open the street to the rest of us tax payers so we could use it also.

I may not agree with their message, but I swore an oath to defend their rights, unto my death. It is not something I take lightly. I believe in the Bill of Rights. Not just the ones I find convenient. And not just the ones I agree on the message.

Can't argue with that but it applies to everyone and if you infringe on others rights to exercise your own you are no better than a communist.

We all have the same rights and the First is the first for a reason. Without that one, we have no say in how our lives are "run" by those we "elected". The Police on the line are pawns and were given an order. It is the ones behind the scenes who you don't see who are controlling things. Same as Re-create '68. Spagnolo gave several orders to protesters to stand down and then stopped when it got out of hand.

My advice is to invest more in education and less in tin foil. With out the second amendment your first would not mean a damn thing. Elected officails are just that you may not like them but they got elected and your out numbered by the voteing pool get over it. Maybe try to contact them write letters set up meetings I have done it.

3 words: Free Speech Zones. What's next? Freedom from invasion from privacy zones?

No problem PM me your address, Tomarrow at 3am I am going to make a speech in front of your house with a bullhorn. I sure hope you don't mind me exercising my free speech.

Both of you would do your selves a big favor to read "Patriots" by A.J. Langguth it would give you much needed education about the intent and founding of this great country.

Both of your hearts are in the right place you just need a little education.

[theGinsue]

Well, I've been lurking in this thread since it began and now (for better or worse) I'm gonna put my $.02 in...

Like so many of us here, I swore that same oath - in fact, I swore it several times over a 20yr period. Every time I did, I got goosebumps contemplating the significance of what I was swearing to do. While wearing the uniform I sacrificed some of my own Rights to be allowed to keep wearing that uniform and help to ensure the Rights of others are maintained.

I am known at work at a "Constitutional fanatic" - believing in the letter and intent of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the U.S. with every fiber of my being.

With that said, I also believe that with Freedom comes responsibility. Like HunterCO has said, you can't exercise your Rights at the expense of someone elses. Freedom is a discipline - and to exercise it requires discipline.

"Freedom requires that at the end of the day, we accept the constraint that is required, the respect for the laws of nature and nature's God that say unequivocally that our daughters do not have the right to do what is wrong, that our sons do not have the right to do what is wrong"...
..."we must meet the obligations and sacrifices of freedom before we can claim its privileges and benefits."

I confess that I've seen what we've all seen in the past 20 or so years - a tremendous erosion in our freedoms and a trampling of the Rights guaranteed to us by the Constitution. This means that we, all of us, has a responsibility to reverse this tide. We've got to vote into office those that will restore the foundation that our forefathers laid for us. When that fails, we have to pressure those in office to do the right thing. This is the right way to do it. The only other choices are subjugation or anarchy. I don't relish either of those options.

That's all I've got. I hope my comments have come across lucid, intelligent, and well thought-out and that I didn't totally tick anyone off.

[WETWRKS]

Too many forget that their rights end when they interfere in the rights of another.

[Marlin]

Hmmmmm, Sounds like They started setting up for the taste of Colorado,,, Seems like that caught the unwashed masses by surprise...

[westy1970]

Can't argue with that but it applies to everyone and if you infringe on others rights to exercise your own you are no better than a communist.

So, you don't have the right to protest because I have the right to drive here!

No, you can't drive here because I have the right to protest!

The argument defeats itself.

Suck it up and deal with the inconveniece for 4 days out of the year knowing when you want to protest to have your right to privacy and self defense you are able to.

And you all would do well to read Molon Labe. It shows just how the Government will take away your rights.

[ssf467]

[QUOTE=westy1970;93119]

So, you don't have the right to protest because I have the right to drive here!

No, you can't drive here because I have the right to protest!

Driving is not a right, but a privilege in the state of Colorado.

And you all would do well to read Molon Labe. It shows just how the Government will take away your rights.

Will take away? It is and continues, the Patriot Act is a start...

[westy1970]

the Patriot Act is a start...

That only applies to Terrorists! Not Americans! Since you are not a terrorist, you should have no problem with no-warrant searches.

[reddevil1111]

You guys miss the best view: Shoot the protesters AND the cops.
OR...better yet, make the hippies and cops pick up trash on the side of the highway. They can do it in shifts so there is always some cops beating down the hippies as they wave signs and chant meaningless slogans.
Vote the right people in? Can I vote for none of the above? I want to vote but I refuse to vote for the current offerings. I don't belive either party has offered anything worth voting for.

The shocker is how the media,parties and government belives we are truely stupid and clueless! The bickering about oil development shows you how they want to pick a pointless topic to argue about. Drilling is not the answer, finding a way to lessen the dependancy on oil is what we need to be talking about. Why do you think they are arguing about drilling? Money. Not to fix our issues.

Why do you guys poke each other with sticks all day? We are all in the same agreement about one thing: Firearms and the right to own/use them.
If we united every gun owner to vote for one idea and we can demonstrate the ability to replicate those voting results, then we could control to a very large extent who is in power. As long as we splinter, we remain weak. Thats my .02

[StagLefty]

"Shoot the protesters AND the cops."
Gee wonder why people think we're gun nuts !!!

[reddevil1111]

That was a joke son...oh wait...you own a gun so no laughing is allowed? Grow up!