FBI’s HRT Kill New York Shooter

[Drucker]

You mean it wasn't a cop that shot the dog this time?

[osok-308]

Man New York is safe with all their gun laws.

[Great-Kazoo]

Poor dog. I think its really wrong that they sacrificed the dog. I know its not a human, but they could have done it different. Esp since there were no hostages. Shame on who ever ordered the dog in there.

You need to study up on LE tactics and understand
1) It's a dog, not a human being, still a loss but a DOG
2) Your armchair QB'ing of the situation and condemnation of them for using the dog leans a tad to the left, just a tad.
perhaps i should take you prairie dog shooting. Those cute little tails a wagging, sweet chirps and barking, flea ridden disease carrying vermin. BANG 1 down 3 to go.

[Citizen_Soldier]

From business insider. http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-o...mistake-2013-3

Closer look

This blows my mind. And why the hell is his rear BUIS up? I guess he thought his optic was malfunctioning and had to revert to irons. It feels terrible when I see a "professional" like this who obviously doesn't know the first thing about his primary offensive weapon.

ETA: Also I just noticed cowboy on the 870 has his left hand supporting the stock like he's shooting some machine gun. If he actually had to fire the shotgun his hand wouldn't be on the pump and it would take him like an extra 1-2 seconds to get a second shot off. Plus recoil/aiming wouldn't be as controlled as if he had a proper grip on the shotgun. Ridiculous.

[SA Friday]

ETA: Also I just noticed cowboy on the 870 has his left hand supporting the stock like he's shooting some machine gun. If he actually had to fire the shotgun his hand wouldn't be on the pump and it would take him like an extra 1-2 seconds to get a second shot off. Plus recoil/aiming wouldn't be as controlled as if he had a proper grip on the shotgun. Ridiculous.

It's a photo, a fraction piece of time. For all you know this position was maintained for a mere second but was captured in this one fraction.

Seriously, between nynco wanting to cry over the dog and this, you all need to put your crackerjack badges down and slowly back away.

[buckeye4rnr]

I have read this post a few times and other than the link i have an issue how the post was titled. Hey it's fried day.

HRT DIDN'T KILL ANYONE, THEY STOPPED AN ARMED THREAT.

It bothers me as this is how the media portrays gun owners, KILL, INNOCENT, Buzz words used to portray someone in a negative light. I am sure the OP did not have that intent.

I don't think they intended to portray it that way. That site is run and all articles are written by former SOF guys and they have plenty of articles arguing for our 2nd Amendment rights. Probably just poor word choice because that particular author was a Ranger and after reading some of his other articles and comments he's definitely on our side.

[mtnhack]

I have read this post a few times and other than the link i have an issue how the post was titled. Hey it's fried day.

HRT DIDN'T KILL ANYONE, THEY STOPPED AN ARMED THREAT.

It bothers me as this is how the media portrays gun owners, KILL, INNOCENT, Buzz words used to portray someone in a negative light. I am sure the OP did not have that intent.

I disagree.
They DID kill him. Now if they said *murdered*, that would imply what you say.

Your *stopped an armed threat* does exactly what I have seen you rail against others for; it minces words and is just PC bs. Tell these f@#$s what is going to happen when you pull this crap, we're going to KILL you.

(any offense was unintended, and my proactive apology is implied)

[68Charger]

The LAPD would just burn the building down...

[C Ward]

There are many trainers and schools that teach having the back up sights up all the time . Vickers did at his class .

Also going to suspect this was a local FBI SWAT team , find it hard to believe they would spool up HRT for one lone nutbag .

[kidicarus13]

Also going to suspect this was a local FBI SWAT team , find it hard to believe they would spool up HRT for one lone nutbag .

From link in the first thread...

Seven men and one dog, who were all present in Alabama last month during the hostage rescue of a five-year-old kindergartner, loaded onto three helicopters in Quantico, Virginia and flew North to Herkimer.