I'm Willing to Bet,,

[car-15]

I was praying Mcain would pick her but in all honesty I thought it would be Romney. I was about the happiest mofo alive when I woke up this morning and seen Mcain picked Palin.

She is one straight shooter and takes no crap, she is very bright, her integrity is impecable, she is very well spoken, she has proven through her actions she serves the PEOPLE, I would be proud to see her as the leader of this great country.

I am not a Mcain fan and would have bit my lip and punched the ticket, now however I will actually feel good when I cast my vote. I know Mcain did what he did for political reasons, However I am not sure if he realizes the can of woop a$$ he just opened. She is what every politician should be in my opinion.

As far as Delphi, We have all volenteered to donate a one way ticket out of this country. I feel the only hope is for us all to contact NASA and see if there is any way we could donate to them. They need to send a titan V rocket up his a$$ with a hubble telescope as that it the only hope of ever finding his head.

now that you mention it I do remember that now, yes we did offer him one,
http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7457

[BadShot]

When someone cannot find errors in the logic of someone's argument they go after spelling and grammar. Which is possibly the easiest thing to bash on it's a lazy man's way of debating. Try looking for something more substantial.

You fail as usual to provide any value other than to suck down more storage and bandwidth. You epitomize all that makes up the erronet.

As for bashing your inability to utilize and not abuse the written English language; I happily point out another of your many short comings. Learn it, use it correctly or STFU for a change.

What have we lost? Perhaps the rights to fully automatic weapons like our government or maybe the fact that certain evil rifles are banned from importation. Or wait maybe the fact that are tax dollars are being collected illegally and spent on things that don't matter. Or what about the fact that none of us truly have privacy anymore? Am I going to look up hundreds of things the demmicans have taken away from us? No, I wont waste my time.

Again typical of the weak minded. I don't know who you believe pays attention to your private times. Much less this purported invasion and elimination of your "privacy". If you want "privacy" stay off the internet, stay off your mommies phone and act like a normal person rather than an out of touch, delusional nut job.

Taxes, as pointed out by Marlin are a fact of governments and nations. Funding is needed to provide those services you so happily suck up. They are also required to provide for those who cannot. Yes they (the governments) do not always spend as we personally would, but walk a mile in their shoes son then run your pie hole.

I again challenge you to step the hell up and serve your country, take the steps to truly earn your "rights" rather than freeload like the rest of the Sheeple you hold in such disdain.

And about the tickets out of this country why don't you just offer those to a liberal or something? I'm sure they'd love a ticket to china.

Mostly because we really wish you would just get the ever loving hell out of the country and land that we so love.

As to robster statement yes the supreme court made a tiny step in the right direction, but has it affected any of us in any way? And how fast can a liberal republican or democrat just take those rights away? Faster than we can gain em back by voting for republicans that's for sure.

The judiciary, in case you missed this part of your very limited and lacking education, is there to counter the actions and inaction's of the legislative and executive branches of our federal government. Google it son.. or is that also a part of the information you refuse to present?

When the republicans come grabbing your guns, don't start complaining cause it was your own doing. Than again you seem to all be the type that would just gladly hand over all your guns and rights so the government can protect you

You don't know dick about your country do you? You don't know dick about history either. I think a World History for dummies book should be in your future.

I cant believe you guys actually think republicans are conservative... ROFL they are moderate liberals....Big government yay!

Republicans of our era are not the conservatives of our great grand parents. They are however the conservatives of our era. There are always extremes to the left and right. Some of those would be easily found in the Middle East and S.E. Asia as well as Europe. America is far more centrist that you seem to realize, then again with out having spent any time of significance in another country and society, you fail to know of that which you type.

Again, I'll even ask nicely this time; Please go away.

[Delphi]

Well if all we needed is $200 and a permit I'm pretty sure all of us would have one. I think you guys are forgetting the fact that full auto weapons are illegal for production and sale to civilians post 1987 thus forcing civilians to use overpriced old weapons. Always trying to leave out the real facts... sure $200 and a permit sounds great, leaving out the artificial prices set by our freindly liberals does not. Although you left that out

Sorry but I dont think paying $15000 for a M16 as old as me is quite up to par with the newly manufactured full autos the badguys have illegally and that they pay $500 for.

I'm not anti-government, they have there uses, I'm anti republican and democrap party. I'm a true conservative not a neo-con. It's nice to see you guys try to eat your own, true colors here. Show's your closer to the liberal democrats than you are to a conservative libretarian. Just re-inforces my statements that you're liberals

"conservatives of our era..." LOL nice one, i dont think the definition of the word conservative has changed

Trust me I wont do anything stupid nor would I ever, I'm just gonna laugh my ass off at all you guys when your Neo-Cons take your right to protect yourselves away. The life I have is way to cushy and fat for me to give that up
I'll just keep on "leaching" by going to work every day and stimulating the economy.

But than again if one of you can find me a legal full auto rifle for $200 and a permit I'll gladly vote republican and take back all my statements.

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[HunterCO]

This thread is about Mcains choice as VP and what we all think about it. So this is how it is going to go.....

Delphi I will make this real simple if you can not point out facts about Mrs. Palin as to why you do not like her shut your mouth. If you make one more ignorant dumbass post about the fact you can't buy a $200 m16 or this country does not fit your needs and we are all commies you are gone period.

I for one and I must say I am very tolerant am tired of you're drivel. If you think this country is so bad leave. Many people have given more than an ugrateful turd like your self could even dream of.

If you can't post an intelligent reply to questions many people have asked in this thread then shut your mouth. Other wise you are gone!

[Delphi]

Well I never said anything negative about her other than I thought she wasn't smoking hot. It's an ok opinion to have imo

Actually I think she was an excellent choice and I would be voting republican if she was on top of the ticket with mccain as VP. Sadly thats not the case. I would totally support Palin for president. I never said anything negative about her accept for the fact that i dont think she's as hot as some claim, which was meant to be funny more than anything else. She is actually one of the few conservatives left in the republican party.

Now as for answering questions? What questions were specifically asked of me? All I've seen here is lots of angry republicans bashing on an independent because they believe I don't have the right to have the political opinion I do. Any questions you want answered I'll gladly answer.

Are you threatening to ban me from the forums for not being republican or perhaps trying to control what I have to say because you disagree with me? I was of the opinion that this forum was a place where we can all have nice debates.

Instead all you are doing is slandering me and my opinion. You bring no valid arguments against my thoughts and instead jump on the "leave my country because I disagree with you bandwagon".

When I do shoot down one of your arguments "anyone can have a machine gun with $200 and a permit" than you respond with threats. That sounds like a real mature thing to do. I'm wondering what you guys would do to a liberal in these forums.... Also thats the answer to one of the rights they have taken away from us, the right to own a newly manufactured machine gun up to industry standards or even the right to own a affordable machine gun. So wallah I also answered a question...

You want me to be a puppet? Thanks but no thanks.

And above all thanks for all the insults and threats. Debate is all good, but Hunter I dont think that you are handling yourself in a way that a "super moderator" should be handling himself. You can challenge my ideas and ideals as much as you want, I'll even wont complain about the insults you fling my way, but threatening to abuse your power because a debate is annoying you is unprofessional and not the way a forum moderator should act, unless of course you want everyone to nod their head and agree with everything you say. If that's the case what's the point of forums? I'm calling you out on that one.

If you make one more ignorant dumbass post about the fact you can't buy a $200 m16 or this country does not fit your needs and we are all commies you are gone period.

[Marlin]

You know, Other than going on an ignorant rant about $200 MG's. That, Even I couldn't believe How Ignorant You sounded,, You Never answered the Question; What Rights Have You lost? I'm waiting,,,,

[Delphi]

Sure I'll answer that.

#1 We have lost the right to purchase parts kits for rifles without there barrels cut
#2 We don't have the right to purchase auto weapons post 1987
#3 We don't have the right to protect ourselves on government property or in schools
#4 We don't have the right to decide who are next president will be (electoral college anyone?)
#5 We don't have the right to determine what the government appropriates our tax money to
#6 We don't have the right to a private conversation on cell phones
#7 We don't have the rights to purchase banned ammo
#8 We don't have the rights to purchase certain types of new "assault rifles" such as the styer aug that are on the banned importation list because they look evil
#9-????? We don't have the right to many many more things

There are allot of rights we've lost and I could probably do hours of research and write a book on all the rights that we have lost or never had. The above are just things that are off the top of my head and actually important to me. If you really want more I can do some research and let you know.

http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Rights-De.../dp/0312123337
I read a few pages of this book once and it was really quite interesting, I think I'll finish it and let you guys know some of the main ones we've lost. If your interested in the topic it may be a worthwhile read.

Also one thing that's really pissing me off about our government and the way things work is that I have to work my ass off to put my self through college I'm paying $4000 a semester that's $8000 a year to go to college. I'm working and going to school getting great grades. Working my ass off plain and simple, yet I see a girl maybe 20 years old who already has a 4 year old kid get a free ride through college and doesn't have to work at all just because she got knocked up. She is being rewarded for bad behavior or how about the fact that just because someone's parents don't make much money the state/feds pay for there entire education? My parents make my fafsa score high which means I don't get didly squat while almost everyone else does. Do I get anything from my parents? Hell no, I'm stuck out here working 40-60 work weeks and studying long hours each day to keep my 4.0 GPA. I see lots of people getting free rides with the money I'm paying into the tax system while I'm getting the short end of the F'ing stick. Hell yes I'm mad! And then the government on top of that wants to take my rights away? Or how about the racism because I'm white? I don't qualify for many scholarships just because I'm a white male.

I have to pay for my car, insurance, gas, college, books, internet(required for school), apartment, health insurance all on just $14 an hour. I haven't gotten to go shoot in over a year (anything above .22) because I can't afford the cost of ammunition anymore. Food sucks because that's my budget lee-way. Girlfriends? Forget about it, I can't even afford to take one out on a date. I have to slave away and work my ass off living in pretty damned bad conditions while I see gangbangers in the welfare state driving around in low riders having fun all day long and pumping out babies while getting a quality education for FREE! Yes I've applied for internships but I haven't gotten any because of bloody affirmative action, they don't need white males apparently. I just turned 21 this year on July 19 and havent even been able to afford to get my concealed carry permit or take pay for the class, nor have I had any alcohol yet, I dont have any freinds in the place i've relocated to so I dont have much fun out here. The freinds thing is most likley my fault but than again I just dont have enough time for freinds

And you guys wonder why I'm not very fond of republicans or democrats? They have failed me, they have demoralized me and they are rewarding bad behavior in our society.

Also about my spelling yes I'll admit when I'm lazy I write like crap, but I don't have much time and I use my brain all freaking day long. It's good to turn it off, I don't have TV so forums and other activities on the internet are my only way to have some fun and even let off some steam. If I don't spell perfectly or make errors I'm sorry I'm forced to do that all day long....

Yes this is mostly a long "cry me a river" story and no I'm not a begger I work hard for everything I have. I just thought it may put into perspective as to why I'm so angry or as to why an "ungrateful turd" like myself complains so much. I see others that dont deserve handouts get benifits off MY TAX money while I cant afford jack shit myself. Also I didnt get much as in tax returns this year and becasue of the overtime I work and the fact that I'm single. They take me to the bank each paycheck and take arround 25-35% of my money away... That extra money that they take would be just enough for me to have good food and somthing that somewhat resembles normal life.

If you guys really want to buy me a ticket please make it to some magical place that will fix all my problems for me and give me all the benifits of a full citizen and not look at how much money my parents earn....

[Marlin]

#1 Clarify that one, and learn how to spell barrel,I've seen them with the Receivers cut. Not the barrel..

#2 You have to go back to GCA34 for that one,, 87 just said No new Ones if I recall..

#3 I'll give You that one But that really isn't .gov per say, That's School districts. I know more or less the same...

#4 That is more overblown than anything else.. You win the state, You win the Electoral vote,, other than Places like Kali..

#5 That's Why You get the Hell of that Independent fence You sit on,and register. Attend Cacuses and get the people in there that will change that..

#6 Cell phones are glorified RADIOS, anybody with a good FM tuner and a good antena, can moniter them..

#6 What some Steel cored Chinese 7.62X39,, Big deal, I have Steel core Russian 7.62X54R.. Wheres the ban

#7 You couldn't afford it anway..

[Marlin]

As far as the Edit You put up,,

That's The main reason I want welfare done away with,, I'm tired of supporting them Myself

Which goes back to the point in the other one;
Get The Hell off the damn Fence,,Get the people in that will work to change the crap..

Indepents ARE not going to do it, They pander more than the R's and D's do.. Just throwing away the vote that's all I'm sayin' All politics start at the grassroot level, That's the problem, Those of Us that actully work, are too tired to go to those meetings when they come around. So, the Welfare leeches show up, and put in a Lib that will raise welfare.. By the time it reaches the National level, We're stuck with the Obama's and McCain's..