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    I said the same thing, they had ZERO to go on and now the suspect is dead. I don't think they got the right guy
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    I know this doesn't exactly take a psychic to work out, but I told my wife last night over dinner that I GUARANTEED some guy would die in a hail of gunfire and get connected to this. I think there's a 50/50 shot that it was actually him who perpetrated the Monument bit, but one way or the other - he had to wind up dead. The only thing I was off on is that I predicted it would happen within a month - they got it done in what, 2 days? You can't have a major bureaucrat shot to death and let it be unsolved. Too many other like-minded individuals watching the news, stroking their chins, going "Hmmmm...."

    Whether the guy who shot the deputy was the same one who shot the DOC guy, who knows. But now it's neatly solved and filed away.
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    update. alleged shooter is son of dickenpoopers friend who is a campaign contibutor.

    http://www.9news.com/news/article/32...her-old-friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    update. alleged shooter is son of dickenpoopers friend who is a campaign contibutor.

    http://www.9news.com/news/article/32...her-old-friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingo View Post
    I know this doesn't exactly take a psychic to work out, but I told my wife last night over dinner that I GUARANTEED some guy would die in a hail of gunfire and get connected to this. I think there's a 50/50 shot that it was actually him who perpetrated the Monument bit, but one way or the other - he had to wind up dead. The only thing I was off on is that I predicted it would happen within a month - they got it done in what, 2 days? You can't have a major bureaucrat shot to death and let it be unsolved. Too many other like-minded individuals watching the news, stroking their chins, going "Hmmmm...."

    Whether the guy who shot the deputy was the same one who shot the DOC guy, who knows. But now it's neatly solved and filed away.
    Where did you read it's "solved and filed away"? And what's your source for all the information you must have on the inner workings of the investigation? How do you explain the attempted traffic stop in TX that turned into a chase and a shootout with a deputy sheriff seriously injured and a Colorado DOC parolee as the suspect? Did someone kidnap him and transport him to TX?

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    Officials: Gun found in Texas is same used to kill Clements


    Read more: Officials: Gun found in Texas is same used to kill Clements - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...#ixzz2Oaj9pFYs
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    I heard in the shoot out with the Texas cop the prep fire some 20 rounds. I don't know of a S&W pistol that has mags over 17 rounds. So it sounds like he did a reload driving 100mph. Even with a 10 round mag the results would have been the same.

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    Woman arrested in gun sale to Evan Ebe

    http://www.krdo.com/news/Woman-arres...g/-/index.html

    Lakewood, CO -A 22-year-old Commerce City woman was arrested by agents with the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) for allegedly illegally transferring the firearm recovered in Texas, and identified by the El Paso County Sheriff's Office as the weapon used in the shooting death of Tom Clements on March 19, 2013.

    Working in conjunction with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), Englewood Police Department and the Denver Police Department, CBI agents arrested Stevie Marie Vigil of Commerce City in the evening hours of March 27, 2013.

    Vigil was arrested on suspicion of an alleged illegal transfer of a firearm in early March, based on information developed during the course of the investigation.

    Oftentimes referred to as a ‘straw purchase' investigators believe Vigil purchased the firearm from a licensed firearms dealer in Englewood, and allegedly transferred the weapon to Evan Ebel, a convicted felon who could not legally possess a firearm. The licensed firearms dealer has been extremely cooperative with investigators, and had no knowledge of Vigil's alleged actions following her legal purchase of the gun.

    Vigil was taken to the Arapahoe County Jail on March 27. Her bond is set at $25,000.

    Vigil faces one count of unlawful purchase of a firearm, a class 4 felony in the State of Colorado. A class 4 felony carries a potential penalty of anywhere between two and 16 years in prison and fines ranging from $500-$2,000.

    *break break*

    I'm guessing they ran the S/N of the gun and got in touch with the manufacturer. The manufacturer keeps the records of who it sells it to so then they check in with the gun store/FFL and go through the records until they find the gun and the buyer. Yes/No??

    In many ways I'm very glad to see they traced it and get the b$%^&*(cth into cuffs but likewise it's a bit scary how fast they can trace that.

    Proving a straw purchase is probably a tough situation with connecting a lot of dots. versus a private sale that just turned bad. Of course this problem what the Ds think there legislation will solve when in the end, it really won't.

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    Thank God we have universal background checks coming to prevent this from happening again./sarcasm

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    So Hick, how much would the legislation you signed into law, against the wishes of Colorado citizenry, have protected your employee from the felon murderer?

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    Next time that scumbag is on Rosen show I am going to do everything I can to get on and ask that question.

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    This proves a number of points that have been made repeatedly to our representatives. Criminals do not go to gun stores, they do not go to gun shows. They steal guns, buy other stolen guns, or have someone make a straw purchase.

    This guy had been caught a few other times illegally possessing a gun, pistol whipped and carjacked a guy while on probation and served hardly any jail time. This guy was a habitual, violent criminal who paid no mind to the laws. Yet we kept him on probation and gave him numerous chances. Now two people are dead. Let's just go enact more laws we wont enforce or properly penalize people with.

    The woman arrested will of course have the book thrown at her and she should get the longest sentence possible.

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