Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
There it is, liberty also includes responsibility for yourself. No one wants that. Too many would rather get money from others for no work and feel safe than be free and have the inherent risk that comes with existence.
And so dies the Republic. If only all this had been done before so we could know how it ends. . .
"In the end more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. When the Athenians finally wanted not to give to society but for society to give to them, when the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."-Edward Gibbon (1737-1794)