HB 1224 Questions

[sealer]

I apologize in advance if these questions are redundant but my "searches" didn't get me the info I needed. Here we go:

- "...owns the large-capacity magazine on the effective date of the bill and maintains continuous possession of the large-capacity magazine". WTF does continuous possession mean?

- with the effective date being 7/1/13, how do I protect myself and my legally obtained magazines (read MY PROPERTY Hickenwhatever) that were purchased prior to said date? Is there some documentation I should be doing now? Of course, for personal records only and potential legal defense.

- we've all been very concerned about the PMAGS, myself included, but doesn't this essentially make the purchase of almost all Glock mags (except some subcompacts) illegal after 7/1/13? Heck, there's mag extensions for the majority of handgun mags.

Thx - Drew

[merl]

this has been debated to death, nobody really knows how it will pan out. Alot of it is going to be up to each officer and court cases.

As for documentation, there is nothing you can do that would stop a cop that is against you. There is nothing you need to do to stop a prosecutor because they cannot prove anything. But that cop will still take your stuff and make you goto court no matter what proof you have. Personally I'm not worrying about it

[mtnhack]

I apologize in advance if these questions are redundant but my "searches" didn't get me the info I needed. Here we go: - "...owns the large-capacity magazine on the effective date of the bill and maintains continuous possession of the large-capacity magazine". WTF does continuous possession mean? -

Means you have to carry it at all times (shower too)

with the effective date being 7/1/13, how do I protect myself and my legally obtained magazines (read MY PROPERTY Hickenwhatever) that were purchased prior to said date? Is there some documentation I should be doing now?

Go get them notorized

Of course, for personal records only and potential legal defense. - we've all been very concerned about the PMAGS, myself included, but doesn't this essentially make the purchase of almost all Glock mags (except some subcompacts) illegal after 7/1/13?

Under a rock lately? Yep, that is what has been implied.

Heck, there's mag extensions for the majority of handgun mags. Thx - Drew

And that is why this is such BS!

[10x]

The draft of the bill that I read said the burden of proof was on the state to show that the mags were obtained after the effective date and/or illegally.
That is similar language to the AWB 1994-2004.
That would require a proof of purchase or dates stamped on the mag, etc.
I don't know how the law deals with people moving into Colorado.

[sealer]

"Go get them notarized"

We have a Notary on staff but I'm not sure how this should/would work considering we deal mainly with business contracts. To have them notarized, wouldn't I have to install some sort of identification on each magazine as I would be using a written instrument to claim ownership of said items?

mtnhack, I think I came across one of your posts about notarizing the mags and that was one of the questions that started this post. I just wasn't sure what that involved or how to start.

BTW - the "under a rock" comment wasn't necessary...just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Hell, I had two gun-owning friends tell me today "I guess you have to dump all those PMAGS soon". I'm not protecting their idiocy but I didn't expect a comment like that here.

[sealer]

The draft of the bill that I read said the burden of proof was on the state to show that the mags were obtained after the effective date and/or illegally.
That is similar language to the AWB 1994-2004.
That would require a proof of purchase or dates stamped on the mag, etc.
I don't know how the law deals with people moving into Colorado.

10x

Have any ideas on date stamping mags?

[Mtn.man]

Come on just get yourself some MJ, find a few gay friends, kick back and let ole Hiccky decifer all this shit.

[mtnhack]

"Go get them notarized"

We have a Notary on staff but I'm not sure how this should/would work considering we deal mainly with business contracts. To have them notarized, wouldn't I have to install some sort of identification on each magazine as I would be using a written instrument to claim ownership of said items?

mtnhack, I think I came across one of your posts about notarizing the mags and that was one of the questions that started this post. I just wasn't sure what that involved or how to start.

BTW - the "under a rock" comment wasn't necessary...just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Hell, I had two gun-owning friends tell me today "I guess you have to dump all those PMAGS soon". I'm not protecting their idiocy but I didn't expect a comment like that here.

Sorry, I was kidding about the notarizing. I was trying to show how ridiculous this whole business is.

There is quite a bit of sarcasm and expectancy of a thick skinned nature. Everyone has there own idea of how one should be treated on the internet and I guess I am pretty pessimistic in that way. I didn't mean to offend you.

[SideShow Bob]

You need to recognize sarcasm when you see it, mtnhack's post was full of it........

[sniper7]

don't say nothin. as long as you don't have mags that have a date stamp after 7/1/13 on them the burden of proof is on them. I wouldn't even get a lawyer. plead the 5th, tell them you owned and possessed them before the law was in effect and that is it.