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    Just a little different buckshotbarlow's Avatar
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    Looks like the tsa is gonna make out on mags...or the city of denver! I know that cheyenne's airport doesn't have these problems...
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    Quote Originally Posted by buckshotbarlow View Post
    Looks like the tsa is gonna make out on mags...or the city of denver! I know that cheyenne's airport doesn't have these problems...
    That would be the case if TSA could "enforce" local laws. I don't think they have authority to enforce local laws. Nothing saying they can't contact local law enforcement and hold you until they get there if they think you are in violation of local laws though. If there is so much gray area and implied this and that in this law... I don't know how they OR the LEO could enforce it. Sounds like a lot of lawsuits coming up if we are stuck with implied interpretation. I'm not allowed to "hand off" to my neighbor but I am allowed to "hand off" to a TSA agent (though the law doesn't explicitly exempt or state that). The 14th amendment says that the law must be rational and clear but I don't see how "clear" the law can be when there has to be implied interpretation when it comes to enforcement.
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    OK, here is a conundrum caused by this choice piece of legislation: Party X takes magazine fed firearm that is malfunctioning to party XXX for repair. Party XXX needs the magazines to verify correct operation. Party X leaves magazines with party XXX for repair purposes.
    Party X and XXX have violated 1224 have they not?
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    Apparently it is all left up to interpretation! I guess it is all left up to the responding officer and how they want to interpret the law... and depending on how they interpret it... then it is left up to the interpretation of the prosecuting attorney... and ultimately left up to the interpretation of a judge and/or a jury of your peers.

    Lots of room for misinterpretation in all of that interpretation.

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    The continous possession issue is arbitrary, vague and capricious - and its one one the main challenges to the law. The Gov's signing statement put it into the attorney general's lap to figure out what it means. The attorney general has stated, off thew record, that he cannot be asked to interpret the law as written since it was legislator that wrote the law and definition. The only thing the AG can do is give advice/directives to DA's on what it should mean.

    In speaking to many legal people about this everyone has stated unequivocally that the wording can be interpreted to mean the most stringent definition - and barring any other definition accepted by the courts - that is the one we should all go with.

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    OT - asmo - terrific quote

    In the end more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. When the Athenians finally wanted not to give to society but for society to give to them, when the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free. -- Edward Gibbon (1737-1794)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    OK, here is a conundrum caused by this choice piece of legislation: Party X takes magazine fed firearm that is malfunctioning to party XXX for repair. Party XXX needs the magazines to verify correct operation. Party X leaves magazines with party XXX for repair purposes.
    Party X and XXX have violated 1224 have they not?
    I'd wondered the exact same thing.

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