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    Quote Originally Posted by Random View Post
    Fact is electronic media (e-mail, forums, etc) are the **worst** possible means of communication thus far invented. I sure we'll come up with something more horrific, but I probably won't live that long.
    Could you please explain your reasoning for saying that? Electronic media has made 3 of my last 4 jobs possible (one was security so didn't really matter there).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    How about this... make it a requirement to show a valid ID to vote. Done! You're welcome.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Could you please explain your reasoning for saying that? Electronic media has made 3 of my last 4 jobs possible (one was security so didn't really matter there).
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    A guy named Albert Mehrabain came up with some astonishing theories about communication way back in the 1960s. His finding were, more or less, that 7% of communication is the words, 38% is how the words are spoken (inflection, etc), and 55% is body language. You could, successfully, I suspect, argue that a written letter is no better or worse than electronic communication given you have just the words, or 7% of the meaning, on paper. What electronics have done for us are make "letters" easier, more convenient and removed actual language frm d pic. I've actually seen resumes written in text message shorthand...scary thought. When you read a forum you get the words "Let's mess with the 26th amendment" and not the deadpan delivery, straight face with the slight curl of the lips to indicate humor, stance, etc, etc, etc. A telephone conversation gives you 45%, face to face and you get the whole conversation. If you look at the real troll on the internet, hiding behind the theoretical anonymity provided by screens and wires, you see behavior that is more and more showing up in face to face encounters. Familiarity breeds contempt.
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    This is not to say electronic communication isn't a valuable tool, we just need better email control legislation. If we can save ONE CHILD we have to try...
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    Oh, BABY! See above. What is the diffrence between an animated gif of a kid saying "That's RACIST" and seeing the words???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Random View Post
    <offtopic>
    A guy named Albert Mehrabain came up with some astonishing theories about communication way back in the 1960s. His finding were, more or less, that 7% of communication is the words, 38% is how the words are spoken (inflection, etc), and 55% is body language. You could, successfully, I suspect, argue that a written letter is no better or worse than electronic communication given you have just the words, or 7% of the meaning, on paper. What electronics have done for us are make "letters" easier, more convenient and removed actual language frm d pic. I've actually seen resumes written in text message shorthand...scary thought. When you read a forum you get the words "Let's mess with the 26th amendment" and not the deadpan delivery, straight face with the slight curl of the lips to indicate humor, stance, etc, etc, etc. A telephone conversation gives you 45%, face to face and you get the whole conversation. If you look at the real troll on the internet, hiding behind the theoretical anonymity provided by screens and wires, you see behavior that is more and more showing up in face to face encounters. Familiarity breeds contempt.
    <irony>
    This is not to say electronic communication isn't a valuable tool, we just need better email control legislation. If we can save ONE CHILD we have to try...
    </irony>
    </offtopic>

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    Oh, BABY! See above. What is the diffrence between an animated gif of a kid saying "That's RACIST" and seeing the words???
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    Ah, okay, I see... Put that way, yes I agree, communication, in the familiar and common "pre-internet age" context is dying.
    "There is no news in the truth, and no truth in the news."
    "The revolution will not be televised... Instead it will be filmed from multiple angles via cell phone cameras, promptly uploaded to YouTube, Tweeted about, and then shared on Facebook, pending a Wi-Fi connection."

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