NFA questions (newbie)

[kwando]

I know you are prob saying... AGAIN!!!

I am posting for a "friend" who just setup a NFA trust. He is in the process of applying for his stamps.

Are the steps basically the following to convert his non NFA 16" AR15 to a SBR:

1. Get lower engraved
2. Buy 11.5" barrel
3. Fill out form 1, fill out details with SN, trust info, barrel length, rifle details, etc
4. Mail form 1 with copy of trust with revised schedule A and $200 check
5. Wait
6. When stamp arrives, swap barrel
7. Enjoy


Sorry if this is a stupid question, I told him I'd help "him".

TIA

[USMC88-93]

Move steps one and two til after step six. Do not have the barrel in your possession til after approval (constructive possession), and I wouldn't bother engraving til you have your approved paperwork back as well but that is just my preference.

[kwando]

Just read of horror stories about engravers screwing up lowers, and needing to change the lower. I guess if choosing a good engraver that knows what they are doing its less of a worry.

Barrel makes sense I was just trying to acquire one first instead of waiting even longer for one if the barrel is OOS

[DFBrews]

Build a pistol lower how he is going to have the rifle set up while he waits for the stamp to come back no constructive intent

i have a couple pistol lowers and 3 different short uppers

[ray1970]

Barrel makes sense I was just trying to acquire one first instead of waiting even longer for one if the barrel is OOS

You'll have plenty of time to find a barrel. You'll be waiting half a year or more for your stamp anyways.

[NFATrustGuy]

I'll let those with more real-world experience chime in with specifics on the build process/timeline, but as for the Trust submission... If this is the first thing you'll be adding to the Trust, you should submit the original Schedule A with only the $10 bill listed. Remember: your Trust doesn't actually own the NFA-regulated item until AFTER the application is approved. It is very likely that your application will be denied if you list the pending item on the Schedule A.

The Schedule A is just a list of the Trust's assets. The Form 4/Form 1 is essentially an application where you seek the approval of the ATF to allow the Trust to buy a new toy. Logically, then, the Trust doesn't already own the toy at the time of application.

Rod

[Great-Kazoo]

Just read of horror stories about engravers screwing up lowers, and needing to change the lower. I guess if choosing a good engraver that knows what they are doing its less of a worry.

Barrel makes sense MY FRIEND was just trying to acquire one first instead of waiting even longer for one if the barrel is OOS

BBl's are no problem. I suggest an 11.5 for a short one . This way once you get the stamp approval for your suppressor [ yes you'll have one sooner than later] it should run with little if any issues. I have not had any on the 11.5's i run. Most suppressor mfg suggest a 11.5 to avoid "potential" issues as they might happen on shorter ones. I know a few running supressed 10" uppers.
Upon you FRIEND getting approved, IF he cannot locate a bbl have Burt cut, thread and recrown one.
Remember Look for solutions, Not Problems.

[kwando]

Build a pistol lower how he is going to have the rifle set up while he waits for the stamp to come back no constructive intent

i have a couple pistol lowers and 3 different short uppers

Lower is already assembled as a rifle from MY understanding it cannot be a pistol, again I am no expert.



Thx for the reply Ray, Rod and Jim!!

[Great-Kazoo]

Lower is already assembled as a rifle from MY understanding it cannot be a pistol, again I am no expert.



Thx for the reply Ray, Rod and Jim!!

Did you buy the lower NEW or used, assembled? I have a stripped lower that was sold as OTHER, and yes i'm over 21[physically]

[NFATrustGuy]

I can attest to the fact that Jim is [waaaay] over 21.

:-)