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    Here are a couple existing threads for you...

    http://www.ar-15.co/threads/75119-NF...El-Paso-County
    http://www.ar-15.co/threads/60985-Pe...with-NFA-items (let us call this a "lively" discussion)

    Reader's digest version:

    1) Make sure the lower works before you invest in a $200 stamp for it.
    2) If you're interested in looks, engrave it first so if the engraver screws up, you can get another lower.
    3) You can get the barrel, just store it with a friend who doesn't own any ARs while waiting for a stamp.
    4) Then do the stamp.

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    Ps. You're right, once you put a butt stock on it, you can't go back to a pistol.
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    YOU are the first responder. Police, fire and medical are SECOND responders.
    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

    My feedback: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/53226-O2HeN2

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2HeN2 View Post
    Here are a couple existing threads for you...

    http://www.ar-15.co/threads/75119-NF...El-Paso-County
    http://www.ar-15.co/threads/60985-Pe...with-NFA-items (let us call this a "lively" discussion)

    Reader's digest version:

    1) Make sure the lower works before you invest in a $200 stamp for it.
    2) If you're interested in looks, engrave it first so if the engraver screws up, you can get another lower.
    3) You can get the barrel, just store it with a friend who doesn't own any ARs while waiting for a stamp.
    4) Then do the stamp.

    O2

    Ps. You're right, once you put a butt stock on it, you can't go back to a pistol.
    You can go from pistol to rifle back to pistol
    PROVIDING the muzzle device is permanently attached so as to not be removable w/out cutting off the weld or blind pin. Another example is the Glock Carbine conversion which comes with a complete "carbine" length upper that goes on your G frame.
    http://www.mechtechsys.com/

    You can also go from your SBR back to a pistol once you send a letter to the ATF asking them to remove it from the NFA registry.

    You cannot go from rifle to pistol w/out ATF form 1 approval.

    A firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(3) and (a)(4), is not made when a pistol is attached to a part or parts designed to convert the pistol into a rifle with a barrel or barrels of 16 inches or more in length, and the parts are later assembled in a configuration not regulated under the NFA (e.g., as a pistol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    You can go from pistol to rifle back to pistol. You cannot go from rifle to pistol.
    I stand corrected. But if it starts its life out as a rifle you can't. Makes perfect sense, NOT.

    ATF Ruling 2011-4

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    Last edited by O2HeN2; 04-02-2013 at 12:20.
    YOU are the first responder. Police, fire and medical are SECOND responders.
    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

    My feedback: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/53226-O2HeN2

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2HeN2 View Post
    I stand corrected. But if it starts its life out as a rifle you can't. Makes perfect sense, NOT.

    ATF Ruling 2011-4

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    No Shittake mushroom. Short to long Good. Long to Short BAD

    I have 3 stamps in the aft process, possible august -oct approval.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    No Shittake mushroom. Short to long Good. Long to Short BAD
    That much I knew, short to long to short being OK surprised the heck out of me.

    O2
    YOU are the first responder. Police, fire and medical are SECOND responders.
    When seconds count, the police are mere minutes away...
    Gun registration is gun confiscation in slow motion.

    My feedback: https://www.ar-15.co/threads/53226-O2HeN2

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    Quote Originally Posted by O2HeN2 View Post
    That much I knew, short to long to short being OK surprised the heck out of me.

    O2
    It's what i did to my Draco. Once my F1 comes back, OFF with it F/hider


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    Quote Originally Posted by NFATrustGuy View Post
    I can attest to the fact that Jim is [waaaay] over 21.

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