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    I blame everything on Tummy Aches
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    Police are for investigation not prevention.

    That and I blame the unions.

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    So glad I don't live in Denver and try not to go there often... "911, what's your emergency?" "Help! I'm being raped, I'm at 16th and Court." "Try and stay on the line, the police will be there about 15min after your body has gone cold."
    Meanwhile, in Evergreen, you report something, especially at a bar (someone got into a fight and the bartender called to ask JCSO to show up) and deputies are there within about 90 seconds or so.
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    I hope you know I was being sarcastic about the union thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverLEO View Post
    Meh, we come as soon as we can. We're dangerously understaffed, and response times have gone through the roof. Property crimes can take hours for a response. Violent crimes take priority, but even those aren't guaranteed an immediate response. Shootings and stabbings in-progress will get the quickest response, as well as domestic violence. Beyond that, it's a crap shoot. Citizens would go apeshit if they knew just how massive the call load is, how few cops there are to respond to them, and how retardedly inefficient and ineffective our policies/procedures make us. We're doing as much as we can given our limitations.

    Probably our union's fault...
    I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd never blame the individual cop.
    I've never worked in LE, but I was an EMT in college (in a bigger midwestern city). You're never in the right place.
    You go code-3 and it is a new address every time and oops! I forgot, no viaduct on this main artery so I need another place to cross the river.
    4-7 minutes was the goal, in certain parts of town, even if you "staged" (drove to the area when expecting a call), you could sometimes miss it.

    That said, the one time I requested them to "send a tac unit" - I was impressed as hell with the response time and show of force from our local PD.
    I got yelled at for it later, but I've always filed that little phrase in the back of my mind for later.

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    I don't think DPD is too bad with response times when called....

    but there is never one around when you need em ! ( this is a joke.. sorta... )


    It did take awhile for an officer to show up when my motorcycle was stolen.. but I had been outta town for three days already and no clue when it was taken so not like it was in a rush to catch the guy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverLEO View Post
    Meh, we come as soon as we can. We're dangerously understaffed, and response times have gone through the roof. Property crimes can take hours for a response. Violent crimes take priority, but even those aren't guaranteed an immediate response. Shootings and stabbings in-progress will get the quickest response, as well as domestic violence. Beyond that, it's a crap shoot. Citizens would go apeshit if they knew just how massive the call load is, how few cops there are to respond to them, and how retardedly inefficient and ineffective our policies/procedures make us. We're doing as much as we can given our limitations.

    Probably our union's fault...
    Like Mr. Lebowski said, I don't blame individual cops, I blame mostly politicians for creating crime rich circumstances (like gun free zones and the like), society for creating these criminals, parents for failing to raise their kids right, democrats for not supporting a strong family unit, the drug war for sending fathers, brothers and sons away to prison for non violent crimes, and a whole host of things that are responsible for the insane call load our various PD and SD have to deal with constantly. I don't know how you guys do it, but I know I'd rather be a deputy in a small town like Evergreen, that a patrol officer in a city like Denver. My hat's off to guys like you.
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    What is the de-facto ratio of police vs population anyhow? Up here were around 1.0003 to 1000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverLEO View Post
    Meh, we come as soon as we can. We're dangerously understaffed, and response times have gone through the roof. Property crimes can take hours for a response. Violent crimes take priority, but even those aren't guaranteed an immediate response. Shootings and stabbings in-progress will get the quickest response, as well as domestic violence. Beyond that, it's a crap shoot. Citizens would go apeshit if they knew just how massive the call load is, how few cops there are to respond to them, and how retardedly inefficient and ineffective our policies/procedures make us. We're doing as much as we can given our limitations.

    Probably our union's fault...
    Lets not forget how many people dial 911, for non-life threatening calls. If those were eliminated you would see a faster response time. Any call could be your last, especially when responding to a DV..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Lets not forget how many people dial 911, for non-life threatening calls. If those were eliminated you would see a faster response time. Any call could be your last, especially when responding to a DV..
    Thankfully those are few and far between up here, but a friend's wife used to work as a dispatcher in Golden and she said some people will call 911 for the most insane things. "Hello, 911, my daughter sneezed! Can you send an ambulance?"
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    People often mistake long response times to lazy cops. While that may be the case sometimes it is rarely so. I once had to call Denver PD for a mutual aid type of deal. Basically it was a DV that happened in Denver but they were reporting it in another jurisdiction. Denver PD told me to that it would likely be hours before they could come and take the report even though I told them I had to wait with the "victim" (Our policy mandated that I wait with them). Safe to say it took two hours for DPD to arrive and I had to sit there and listen to the same story about her husband being the Devil 50 times. So even with another cop waiting there for them to respond it took over two hours. They stay really busy over there.

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