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    Fleeing Idaho to get IKEA Bailey Guns's Avatar
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    I get that. The paper and coffee is the wife's morning (or at least daily) ritual. She constantly bitches about the liberal spin on the "news" stories but still subscribes to the paper for the Sudoku puzzle and coupons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    My disagreement wasn't about whether or not he has a right to his views, or even to share them in print within the DP. My disagreement was with the content of the article being described by the OP as a "common sense" editorial.

    In my opinion, someone who writes, "And I say that as someone who supports background checks, wobbles back and forth on magazine size, opposes the weapons ban, and has never accepted the argument that such restrictions amount to assaults on the Second Amendment" doesn't really understand the Second Amendment and the uselessness of various gun-control arguments.

    I don't see that as common sense at all.
    Which is why the post is entitled "shows beginning of common sense". "Less rabid" works as well.


    This seems reasonable enough:

    "Still, supporters of the measures are vastly overselling their significance and thus stoking suspicion that future mass shootings would only trigger another round of restrictions.

    First of all, rifles — let alone assault-style rifles — are not exactly the weapon of choice for murderers. As gun advocates have noted, the FBI identifies more homicides in 2011 by blunt objects such as hammers and clubs than rifles (although the rifle figure is understated to an unknown degree because the firearm type in some murders wasn't identified). When killers use guns, they mostly prefer handguns.

    Meanwhile, the number of handgun homicides that necessitate more than 10 rounds is relatively trivial.

    And of course assault-style weapons and large magazines are irrelevant to the toll of firearm suicides, which equalled 19,000 in 2011, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


    On the other hand, consider the 2007 massacre of 32 at Virginia Tech. As the Citizens Crime Commission of New York City (a big supporter of magazine limits) notes, "Investigators found a total of 17 empty magazines at the scene of the shooting, a mix of several 15-round and 10-round magazines loaded with hollow-point rounds."

    Seventeen empty magazines! Clearly tackling a maniac during the few moments it takes to reload is easier said than done".
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    Denver Post still sux and biased as hell. The Carroll piece is encouraging and Mike Rosen is always dependable but...

    If the TX stabbing rage of the 14 victims had been shootings instead of knifings it would have been all over the front page...BUT it was a non-firearm event so they buried the story back on page 16!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverLEO View Post
    The Denver Post, via their editorial board, has explicitly stated on numerous occasions that they support every gun control law that has come up recently. They also support even more gun control than has already been enacted. At least they are forward enough to say so, instead of claiming no bias on the matter. Unfortunately their vehement gun control agenda isn't confined to the editorial pages, and is pushed just as hard in their "objective journalism". They're not unique in this matter, as every major local media outlet is guilty of the same practices. Occasional guest commentators may provide an alternate view, but the official editorial board is about as progressive a group of douchebags as you could ever come across.

    Do society a favor and do not patronize The Denver Post. Cancel your subscription (does anyone seriously subscribe to a newspaper anymore anyway??), tell your friends and family to cancel theirs, don't click any advertisements on their webpage, and call them out on their bullshit every chance you get. The entire print media business has been dying for years already, you might as well help put them out of their misery.
    I concur. I won't even open up links that are posted here.

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