Colorado sheriffs plan lawsuit challenging state gun control laws

[Rucker61]

Just to think I escaped NY just to come to this!!

I heard you were dead.

[Chad0724]

At least do us a favor and wait until midterms, so we can get your vote (I assume you will vote for BB).

Deal, and you are correct


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[zteknik]

I heard you were dead.

Alive and kicking

[KAPA]

I know this is kind of looked down on but what is stopping anyone from going to a bordering state and buying whatever mags they want and bringing them back home? Obviously Pmags have a date of manufacture stamped on them but as far as I know regular 30 round USGI mags don't have dates, I dont think any other mags have dates on them unless they are printed inside somewhere? What if a date stamp is scratched out and no longer legible?

Is it even specifically against this law to bring them in from another state? They are not being transferred here. What about people who move here, do they just surrender them at the border?

[zteknik]

I know this is kind of looked down on but what is stopping anyone from going to a bordering state and buying whatever mags they want and bringing them back home? Obviously Pmags have a date of manufacture stamped on them but as far as I know regular 30 round USGI mags don't have dates, I dont think any other mags have dates on them unless they are printed inside somewhere? What if a date stamp is scratched out and no longer legible?
Is it even specifically against this law to bring them in from another state? They are not being transferred here. What about people who move here, do they just surrender them at the border?

This is a good point-a poorly written law that is almost impossible to enforce.They can use whatever feel good slogans they have,but fact of the matter comes down to enforcement.This will be a fighting point for the appeals.

[theGinsue]

An appeal should be forthcoming so it may not be dead yet.

Sheriff Smith said via FaceBook an appeal will happen. The appellate court is where the real battle will be waged. The trial court is just the first step.

Mike

Handling this through the courts beyond this initial stage is very dangerous. Chances are the Appellate Court (10th Circuit?) will side with the lower court and the case will go to the SCOTUS. While we've seen some good decisions out of the SCOTUS in the last few years, I wouldn't expect this trend to continue - particularly with the current makeup of SCOTUS members. Once the SCOTUS renders a decision, it's significant case law/precedent that's next to impossible to undo.

I believe our best chances for making this right - permanently - is a two step process (which has already been mentioned). First, we need to take back the Governors office as well as a majority in both State houses. They will then have the ability to repeal the laws. Next, we need to
go to the people of the state with a Constitutional amendment which needs to be crafted to prevent laws like these current laws and potential variants from ever infringing on our Right again.

[KAPA]

so is there a list of mags with dates on them? maybe printed internally at all? all we need is Golden and Denver PD cracking open all mags to check for a mfr date.

[68Charger]

Just to think I escaped NY just to come to this!!

I heard you were dead.

I see what you did there.. Snake is alive and well.. (where's the smoking smiley?)

I know this is kind of looked down on but what is stopping anyone from going to a bordering state and buying whatever mags they want and bringing them back home? Obviously Pmags have a date of manufacture stamped on them but as far as I know regular 30 round USGI mags don't have dates, I dont think any other mags have dates on them unless they are printed inside somewhere? What if a date stamp is scratched out and no longer legible?


Is it even specifically against this law to bring them in from another state? They are not being transferred here. What about people who move here, do they just surrender them at the border?

It's been discussed at length... I'll offer the free legal advise (that is worth exactly what your paid for it): there is no penalty for removing a date code or serial number from a magazine.
Most polymer mags have a date code on them somewhere... but as I said, there is no force of law (unlike removing a S/N from a firearm, magazines are not regulated the same way)

[68Charger]

so is there a list of mags with dates on them? maybe printed internally at all? all we need is Golden and Denver PD cracking open all mags to check for a mfr date.

They would not be internal... it would be stamped on the outside... some metal mags have stamps, too:


Pmags:

[Zundfolge]

Well in my quest to grasp at silver linings, had the law suit succeeded and the laws been overturned then the issue would likely have been dead in November and wouldn't help Beauprez and that might be just enough to save Hick (and believe me, gun rights isn't the ONLY reason we need to get rid of Hick).

The anti Beauprez folk on the right would have less reason to hold their nose and vote for him and the pro-gun folk on the left (yes, there are a few of them) wouldn't feel the need to vote against their party and many pro-gun folk that are otherwise not politically engaged would have no reason to go the polls at all.