Senate Reached Bipartisan Deal on Background Checks

[Hound]

This does not look any different to us because it is what we are used to. I want to see what the actual wording is. The devil is in the details.

[buckshotbarlow]

You still can't sell w/out a 4473 over state lines.
I'm going to sell weed, less hassle, laid back clientele and hot hippie & hipster chicks. Only problem is convincing some college kid to grow it for me. The 1099 form's going to be a bitch, oh well. Maybe i'll grow hemp, tjhe sowing not the rollin kind. Then do what Holley did way back when and make parts with them. Imagine the look on some LE's face when you have not only a 20 round mag, but it's made out of weed.

not if i'm a WY resident...

[Great-Kazoo]

not if i'm a WY resident...

Only to other Wyo residents.

[rondog]

I read in this morning's Denver Wipe that this proposal DOESN'T include face-to-face private transactions?

[jreifsch80]

c&r's and antiques are different thing. c&r's are firearms on the c&r list. antiques are firearms 1898 and earlier.

[BlasterBob]

c&r's and antiques are different thing. c&r's are firearms on the c&r list. antiques are firearms 1898 and earlier.

A C&R Licensee would handle a 60 or 70 year old firearm that is NOT listed on the C&R "List" as a C&R. As long as it was manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date then it is considered a C&R and should be handled accordingly. So, the Licensee would not have to be concerned about it being an "antique".

[Hound]

The only exception at this time is 'word of mouth' only. So if you've ever posted it on a forum or dicussed it at a meeting, 4473.

This is defacto registration via paper, inevitably BATFE will get caught compiling the data and some mid-level flunky will get 'reassigned'. But make no mistake, given that 4473s 'live' forever, this is the first step to a national database of gun owners.

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To bolster this point: I recently had an FFL tell me that If/When an FFL Quits/Retires they are required to send in all of their paperwork to the ATF for them to dispose of by law. Hmmmm, no room for abuse their!

[BlasterBob]

To bolster this point: I recently had an FFL tell me that If/When an FFL Quits/Retires they are required to send in all of their paperwork to the ATF for them to dispose of by law. Hmmmm, no room for abuse their!

Correct! When I turned my FFL 01 record book a few years ago, the BATF told me specifically that those records would be entered into their computer.

[mikedubs]

I read many pieces on this deal yesterday; they all seemed contradictory. BUT I did see something mentioning 48 hour background checks...how does this affect gun shows that pack up and leave in 48 hours?

Is this the real purpose: to greatly diminish gunshows? If so, wouldn't that interfere with commerce and therefore be open to a legal challenge?

ETA: a link to one such story

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...856.html?hp=r1

[liberty19]

This is defacto registration via paper, inevitably BATFE will get caught compiling the data and some mid-level flunky will get 'reassigned'. But make no mistake, given that 4473s 'live' forever, this is the first step to a national database of gun owners.

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This.