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    Machine Gunner muddywings's Avatar
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    Default Rick Warren: Son bought 'unregistered gun'

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    By Greg Botelho, CNN
    High-profile Pastor Rick Warren tweeted Thursday that his son who shot himself late last week had bought an "unregistered gun" from "someone over the internet."
    "I pray he seeks God's forgiveness," wrote Warren, a best-selling author and the head of Saddleback Church, referring to whoever sold his son the gun. "I forgive him."
    Law enforcement authorities have the gun they believe Matthew Warren used to kill himself, according to Orange County Sheriff's Department spokesman Jim Amormino.
    Amormino said he could not say from where, or whom, the 27-year-old got the weapon. But he did confirm the gun was not registered, adding that its serial number had been scratched off.
    "(The fact) the serial number is scratched off ... is going to make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to trace," Amormino said.
    Matthew, the youngest of Warren's children, worked at the Saddleback Resources Warehouse, which distributes books and DVDs. He was "an important part of the church but played a quiet role," church spokeswoman Anne Krumm said.
    He'd had "a fun evening" with his parents, Rick Warren wrote Saturday to the staff of his Southern California megachurch, before he committed suicide "in a momentary wave of despair."
    Matthew Warren was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at his home in Mission Viejo, California, late Friday afternoon, the Orange County Coroner said. The autopsy completed Monday put the time of death at around 10 a.m. Friday.
    "Matthew was an incredibly kind, gentle and compassionate young man whose sweet spirit was encouragement and comfort to many," the church said in a statement. "Unfortunately, he also suffered from mental illness resulting in deep depression and suicidal thoughts. Despite the best health care available, this was an illness that was never fully controlled, and the emotional pain resulted in his decision to take his life."
    Rick Warren is a pioneer of the megachurch movement who looked to translate traditional evangelical messages to a wider audience.
    Warren founded Saddleback with his wife 33 years ago and wrote "The Purpose-Driven Life," a Christian self-help guide that became a mainstream best-seller. He also gave the invocation at President Barack Obama's 2009 inauguration.
    CNN's Eric Marrapodi contributed to this report.

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    Always sad but I'm surprised all those California gun laws failed to stop this.
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    Wait there is a law against that in California, Why didn't they obey the law?

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    In CA All firearm transfers/sales must be done at a dealer/FFL w/ the background check (unless it's family, I believe).

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    huh, so a scratched off serial number is not legal? wow, no fucking shit.

    he shot himself. he is the only one to blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    huh, so a scratched off serial number is not legal? wow, no fucking shit.

    he shot himself. he is the only one to blame.
    Agreed.

    Crappy situation for the family, but more laws would not have prevented this.
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    "(The fact) the serial number is scratched off ... is going to make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to trace," Amormino said.
    They've been pretty good at restoring "scratched off serial numbers for decades now. Don't want to trace?
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    If only the serial number were present, so the person who shot him could be brought to justice. I think the poor kid should be brought back from the dead and made to give up his source.










    Really though, it sucks that his son killed himself.
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    300 million other guns around the country harmed no one today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    300 million other guns around the country harmed no one today.
    That you know of...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    300 million other guns around the country harmed no one today.
    Excluding Chicago of course... Right?
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