War Veteran Arrested for “Rudely Displaying” Rifle in Texas.

[USAFGopherMike]

I wish the video of the guy in TX would have started before he was being detained.

Edit - Check out the posts here and read all the way through:

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...d.php?t=369723

Lots of claims that I cannot confirm, but it sounds like this guy is a real meathead out looking for attention. Apparently there's dash cam that shows why he was detained (again, haven't seen it). I was quick to call foul on the cops but it sounds like they were just being safe. That doesn't excuse the mishandling of the handgun nor statements that place them above the law.

[sniper7]

I'm very interested to see how this pans out. Won't make any judgements yet other than I thought this happened in Texas where men are men and no pansies are allowed.

[battle_sight_zero]

No kidding? What the hell has this forum turned into?

I guess I've been back too long.

I guess it became the www.co-fudd.com forum with the all lefties that have moved into the state and the recent gun legislation. The forum is heading the CalGuns route where members will be happy talking about the cool tacticool mall Ninja 10/22 with the 10 round banna clip, or the how cool the AirSoft Scar 17 looks. Sarcasm. I just hope that you guys are not falling for the conditioning because if you are there is no hope for us to restore our gun rights here in Colorado. This guy and his son did nothing wrong.

[n8tive97]

I lived near Temple Texas for a few years, if you look at a map it is the next biggest town once you leave the Ft Hood/Killeen area. With the number of our men and women in the military in that art of the country, this shouldn't have been a surprise to these LEO's.
You can't hardly go in to a public place down there and not see someone open carrying.

[Bailey Guns]

I just hope that you guys are not falling for the conditioning because if you are there is no hope for us to restore our gun rights here in Colorado. This guy and his son did nothing wrong.

Oh, good. Someone who was there and witnessed it firsthand. It's nice to have such a definitive answer. I feel better now.

[generalmeow]

When the police are given reports of a person "walking around with a gun" it's usually from someone that doesn't have a clue about local gun laws. The police can't ignore these reports. Simply chatting with the officer for a few minutes and answering some harmless questions lets you walk free with your firearm after they determine the report of suspicious activity is false.

But you don't have to utter a word to the police if they try to talk to you, giving them absolutely no information. So in a sense, they have done no better than if they just ignored the report. Therefore it's clearly not a requirement that the police determine what is going on when someone isn't breaking the law, and therefore they can in fact ignore the report if they so choose.

The only way you can say "they can't ignore the report" is if they are required by law to determine what someone (who isn't breaking the law) is up to. And we know they aren't required, because the person can simply just not talk to them, which makes it impossible for the police to know what's going on. "But they have to know what's going on!" No, they don't.

I am open to the idea that if police get a call from a concerned citizen, that they follow that person from a distance for a short time to determine if they're just minding their own business. I do not think that the police should ever detain and waste someone's time if they're not committing a crime.

Maybe technically they can't ignore the report, if you mean they at least have to go see it with their own eyes, but they don't have to accost anyone when they see that the person is just minding their own business and not breaking the law. They don't have to go talk to the person to find out what's going on - and I believe this is what you meant with the bit about the harmless questions the person needs to answer.

[Bailey Guns]

Jeez...I thought my world was black and white.

[Prometheus]

the first cop actually had his gun drawnon the Army sergeant before backup arrived he tried to just rip the gun off his chest so the army guy backed up so the cop drew his gun and aimed it at the sergeant they said it was over 20 minutes before they started recording I don't think he went out there just to record the cops going after himif you can find the full video the cops actually have a conference and you can hear them talking about well what can we charge him withhe also was legal to open carry he had concealed carry permit on him the police didn't even ask for even after he offeredthey are also talking about having two lawsuits against the police because the cop that drove his son home detained his son for 22 minutes and told him he could not get out of the car until he answered his illegal questioning the guy has never been in trouble with the law before contrary to popular belief and he was awarded the Bronze Star by Bush in the Oval Office

[Ronin13]

the first cop actually had his gun drawnon the Army sergeant before backup arrived he tried to just rip the gun off his chest so the army guy backed up so the cop drew his gun and aimed it at the sergeant they said it was over 20 minutes before they started recording I don't think he went out there just to record the cops going after himif you can find the full video the cops actually have a conference and you can hear them talking about well what can we charge him withhe also was legal to open carry he had concealed carry permit on him the police didn't even ask for even after he offeredthey are also talking about having two lawsuits against the police because the cop that drove his son home detained his son for 22 minutes and told him he could not get out of the car until he answered his illegal questioning the guy has never been in trouble with the law before contrary to popular belief and he was awarded the Bronze Star by Bush in the Oval Office

Holy run on sentence batman... have you ever head of punctuation?

My question is this- If I'm out minding my own business, and let's say I'm OCing (I don't do it often, but it has happened before), and a cop walks up on me and tries to pull my gun out and take it away from me, would I be justified in not knowing his intentions and defending myself from unlawful disarmament? I would think common sense (yeah I know, not common these days) would tell you to announce your intentions before just grabbing something off of someone. Anyone else but a cop is getting shot with no hesitation.

[USAFGopherMike]

he was awarded the Bronze Star by Bush in the Oval Office

You have pics of him getting the decoration? How about a copy of the dec? Some dude that doesn't like him (see the link I posted above) reported the guy was a slacker and received his Bronze star for admin. That would mean no valor. Lots of hearsay and unknown facts. Still, I side with the law, not the cops.