War Veteran Arrested for “Rudely Displaying” Rifle in Texas.

[Cylinder Head]

You have pics of him getting the decoration? How about a copy of the dec? Some dude that doesn't like him (see the link I posted above) reported the guy was a slacker and received his Bronze star for admin. That would mean no valor. Lots of hearsay and unknown facts. Still, I side with the law, not the cops.

I've seen a pic of the guy with GW Bush.

[Prometheus]

yeah sorry no punctuation because it's on a cell phone and yes you can find pictures of him being awarded by Bush in the Oval Office just google his name with Bush and Bronze Star and it will pop right up he is a 18 year veteran with multiple Wars
and for a soldier that carried a gun for a living I'm sure it was just a reaction to back up when someone grabs his gun I don't know if he was resisting arrest or just trying to figure out why a person was trying to rip a gun off of him

[BigDee]

Those cops are f*cked. Regardless of this guys credibility or his "valor" the video speaks for itself. This man was unlawfully detained, the cops clearly stated they are "exempt" from the law and this was bullshit.

So much for Texas being awesome.

[tmleadr03]

Not how I would have carried a rifle on a hike with my kids. But I honestly don't see the harm. And seriously, how much of a danger does someone look like when they are rucking with a little boy?

[sellersm]

Yes, I'm re-awakening an old thread. Grisham was charged & fined & lost his case. They brought in a judge who would try this case, none of the locals wanted anything to do with the case.

Yesterday, the entire video from the dashcam from the officer's car was released on YouTube:



You can now decide for yourself what happened & whether Grisham is innocent & treated fairly or not. Listen carefully to what the other office says after he's arrived & starts discussing...

[BushMasterBoy]

Corrupt cops, DA's, judges etc. Obama, Bloomberg, Giron, Morse, blah blah

[hatidua]

[Ronin13]

So I have a different perspective from back in April- although not much- thanks to being almost done with a LE academy... First, the cop just grabbed for the gun- that motion provoked resistance from the man who didn't know what the officer's intentions were, something I would never do- I would always advertise what I intend to do, if I actually do anything at all- such as, but not word for word "Sir, for safety reasons during this contact, I ask that I may secure your weapon. I am not seizing it permanently, just for my safety I would like to remove it from your person until this contact is complete." Then again, this goes along with state law that "A peace officer may temporarily disarm a permittee, incident to a lawful stop of the permittee. The peace officer shall return the handgun to the permittee prior to discharging the permittee from the scene" (CRS 18-12-214(1)(b))- however, if the guy seems like a law-abiding, good citizen, odds are, I won't disarm, but would ask that he keep his hands away from the weapon. If ever the need came up where I chose to disarm a contact, I would do it a much more professional and respectful way than what that officer there did. However, if the person refused, sorry, but ignorance of the law is not an excuse- the cuffs are going on for mine and his safety and he would be disarmed... but not arrested unless an offense had been committed. Big difference between being detained and placed under arrest, most do not understand this.

It would appear that a lot went wrong in this case (on both sides- the cops and the citizen- disrespect on both accounts)- I would do things much differently if faced with an identical situation... especially a traffic contact with a lawfully armed driver. Just be careful out there, I guess that's my point.

[cstone]

You have the right to remain silent. Use it.

Never yell at the police. It will be used against you in court.

That cop should review the dash video and then thank God that he was not dealing with a criminal.

[BushMasterBoy]

Or a bonafide terrorist...last comment I read said the Temple PD still has the guys firearms! I bet that is what they wanted anyways. If you have really nice guns, somebody will always want to get them for free if they can. EVEN SOMEBODY FROM THE .GOV!

You have the right to remain silent. Use it.

Never yell at the police. It will be used against you in court.

That cop should review the dash video and then thank God that he was not dealing with a criminal.