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More great thinking by our legislature: DNA for misdemeanors
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...offenses-draws
and they charge $128 for the privilege of becoming a subject of the state's database...WTF?
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It's a fishing expedition for cold case leads? Complete BS. There are states that already require this and the statistics say testing misdemeanors does not solve crime at a higher rate. Additionally, the DNA testing costs about $500 per person according to the Section head of one of the largest DNA labs in CO. So, testing just class one misdemeanors would raise the cost to the state about 4 times what they are charging and they will have to hire more people to do the testing. Great news for people doing school for a criminalistics degree, but its going to cost the state way more than it's worth. The only upside will be more accurate statistics in court as they are based on the size of the database.
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Too bad that was supposed to be a fictional book, not a how to manual.Originally Posted by losttrail
Re: More great thinking by our legislature: DNA for misdemeanors
Another step on the path...
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How is this not a direct attack on the 4th and 5th amendments. If you take this to its logical conclusion they will have a DNA sample on all Americans so they can link all crime to all people. Even minor infractions. Considering how many laws there are, it will be illegal to damn near breath. This will create a world where you are guilty of whatever that you will then have to prove yourself innocent. There seems to be a drive to know all about us from Advertising, to cars that tell on you (that Progressive insurance plugin for cheaper rates), to Facebook where we tell on ourselves. This vision of the future is not one I want to live in. It reminds me of the Demolition Man Utopia with Orwell as the underlaying framework.
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The constitutionality of taking DNA samples and what threshold for mandating those samples has yet to be determined at the federal level. Every state is making up their own rules at this point. I suspect when it is addressed, the threshold for mandatory sampling will fall just barely more stringent than fingerprints. The evasiveness of the testing is literally a cheek swab and so just barely more evasive than fingerprints. The test itself is based on DNA short tandem repeat sequences. CODIS requires a minimum 13 loci, but most modern tests do about 16 loci. None of this data is capable of gleaning additional information about the person other than the amount of repeat sequences in the different loci. Basically, the info is only pertinent for comparison to identify just like a fingerprint. So, the test results are innocuous. The minimum amount of cells required for a full positive ID are about 15 right now and that can be extracted form sluffed skin cells in a fingerprint. So the open source availability to retrieve a sample is equal to a fingerprint. DO NOT try to fight this fight with the 4th and 5th amendments!!! It will fail.How is this not a direct attack on the 4th and 5th amendments. If you take this to its logical conclusion they will have a DNA sample on all Americans so they can link all crime to all people. Even minor infractions. Considering how many laws there are, it will be illegal to damn near breath. This will create a world where you are guilty of whatever that you will then have to prove yourself innocent. There seems to be a drive to know all about us from Advertising, to cars that tell on you (that Progressive insurance plugin for cheaper rates), to Facebook where we tell on ourselves. This vision of the future is not one I want to live in. It reminds me of the Demolition Man Utopia with Orwell as the underlaying framework.
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Money is the issue. It will cost the state $500k to one million a year to do these tests in test costs alone. throw in the equipment and lab expansion and holy shit batman, we gotta raise taxes...
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More great thinking by our legislature: DNA for misdemeanors
Every veteran is already in a Federal DNA database. 'Bout time the rest of you joined us!
It is creepy though.
When did that policy start?Every veteran is already in a Federal DNA database. 'Bout time the rest of you joined us!
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