How long before the ammo shortage dies down

[Firehaus]

I noticed cabelas in Kansas had more ammo on the shelves then Denver metro stores did. 223 was still scarce, but lots of 308 match and plinking on the shelves. Overall the shelves weren't empty at all like the stores here.

[roberth]

This is different than 2008-2009, so a year or more.

The last Tanner show people were selling Federal 550 round bulk pack at $110, now I'm seeing it on Armslist for $70 so that is a good sign. I don't know if it is selling at $70 though, people don't post how much they sold it for, just what they want.

[RCCrawler]

I just don't understand. Are the ammo manufactures running their equipment 24/7? There are plenty of people looking for work, why aren't they hiring more people to work more machines for longer hours? Even if they are just temporary jobs, and it's a temporary demand why wouldn't all these companies do everything humanly possible to take full advantage of selling anything they could make as fast as they could possibly make it?

[Great-Kazoo]

I just don't understand. Are the ammo manufactures running their equipment 24/7? There are plenty of people looking for work, why aren't they hiring more people to work more machines for longer hours? Even if they are just temporary jobs, and it's a temporary demand why wouldn't all these companies do everything humanly possible to take full advantage of selling anything they could make as fast as they could possibly make it?

If the mfg cannot obtain the raw materials to mfg components they can't do anything. Big Bore in wellington told me ha's waiting on his lead supplier to mfg more before he can cast more bullets. Trickle down, they don't have , you can't make. Doesn't matter how may people you have working, if the work is not there they can't.

It's like off road parts. If shock co. A is unable to obtain internal comopnents to mfg the "hottest new off road" suspension everyone wants, they cannot produce it.

[losttrail]

I personally just don't understand it. Ammo companies must be working around the clock pumping out as many rounds as humanly possible, where can it all be going? Are they not producing rounds like they used to? Is there a shortage on raw materials?

Look at the amount of ammo that DHS has on order: 1.6BILLION rounds, and that is just what we know of.

Consider also that DHS is not the only federal agency buying ammo; Social Security, IRS, FEMA, etc. ar also buying large quantities.

There is also the mindset of the liberals that if they can't get the guns banned right now, they can restrict ammo and reloading components. If we don't have ammo, we have expensive oars, sticks, clubs.

Rest assured that the Liberals fully understand what our Founding Fathers and George Mason intended the Second Amendment for. That is why they are so determined to nullify our ability to defend ourselves from their tyranny.

[RCCrawler]

If the mfg cannot obtain the raw materials to mfg components they can't do anything.

That's why I asked earlier if there was a material shortage. So it goes up the line, ramp up the mines, ramp up the foundries, ramp up the entire line of production from raw materials to ammo salesman in the stores. If the demand is there work to fill it.

There just seems to be more to the story to me.

It's not just ammo, guns as well. I don't understand why everyone is out of everything. If you manufacture bolt carrier groups, and you can't keep them on the shelf, bring on a second shift, if you still can't keep up bring on a third shift, if you still can't keep up bring in more equipment and people to run it. You should be trying to sell everything you possibly can while the demand is there for it, because you never know when it will disappear.

[Great-Kazoo]

That's why I asked earlier if there was a material shortage. So it goes up the line, ramp up the mines, ramp up the foundries, ramp up the entire line of production from raw materials to ammo salesman in the stores. If the demand is there work to fill it.

There just seems to be more to the story to me.

It's not just ammo, guns as well. I don't understand why everyone is out of everything. If you manufacture bolt carrier groups, and you can't keep them on the shelf, bring on a second shift, if you still can't keep up bring on a third shift, if you still can't keep up bring in more equipment and people to run it. You should be trying to sell everything you possibly can while the demand is there for it, because you never know when it will disappear.

Not every job position requires someone who can push a broom. A lot require skilled personnel to handle the task assigned. I wouldn't want some FSA or fresh out of college kid with no hands on experience, running a backhoe let alone mills, lathes and foundry equipment.

The hire more people mantra, seems like a simple fix, but it's not. Some of these jobs require BG checks beyond the usual piss test and local LE approval. My last job required Bio-Terrorism security clearance and lots of training. The average turn around time for the sec clearance was 6 weeks. I was fortunate having the necessary training and clearances to work right out of the gate.

[BushMasterBoy]

Obama just came here to make an example of us. When he and his ilk are gone...

[Chad4000]

Supply already seems a lot better to me. Bought some .223 at Cabelas last week, and it shipped today, for $0.41/round. Hardly the $0.28 that it was 18 months ago, but still much better pricing than I've seen in a while.

going to have to look at that one.... thats not bad... dont suppose you have a link to what you bought? ( I can google it, just hard at work...)

[Great-Kazoo]

Obama just came here to make an example of us. When he and his ilk are gone...

AND this has what to do with ammo?