Ammo feed issue???

[Shootersfab]

So i know nothing about AK's..............[pick-me]

My ladies brother came to me with this issue with this newly purchased AK. I figured i would ask you gents, figured you would know whats going on.

When the round is chambering, something is catching the bullet/casing and jamming the bullet back into the casing and crushing/ dimpling the case. The photos show the PMC ammo, but he claims to have tried several types of ammo and they all suffered the same result. This occurs right away it is not an issue when it is cold/hot or just a random occurrence, it happens all the time.
He has several brands of mags as well and they all do the same thing. The only time it does not have any issue is when he runs his drum mag. (i dont know the brand) I think it is a 75 round drum. (i think)

Sorry i dont have a lot of info, and i dont know anything about these things so any info is a great help. He wants to know if he should take it to a gunsmith or if it is an issue with this brand or what..

thanks gents!!!!!

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You can see in this picture the wear mark that appears to be catching the bullet/casing....

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[Great-Kazoo]

Top shot of magwell with mag in it. Both a loaded and unloaded one por favor. What mags, hows the bullet guide etc etc. In your case pics are better or can you drop over after work. I know a few ak guys in the area could look at it, while you wait.


On second thought it's probably another shitty AK. Better i take it off his hands then be stuck with it.

[zteknik]

Has it been converted to double stack mags?ie-able to take standard ak mags?
From the looks of the picture it looks like the rounds are catching on the lower left feed lug.
Might have a burr on it or may need to be opened up a bit.
I would bring it over to Bert at BP tactical and have him check it out.If it needs to be smoothed out he can do it in no time on his mill..

[bryjcom]

Wow.. I'd like to see a few pics of loaded mags inserted.

[Wulf202]

Yea likely a mag well issue. Pics w mags. Remove the dust cover so you can get a top pic too

[palepainter]

Bert smoothed one of mine out nicely for a great price.

[Shootersfab]

I know he uses tapco mags and has issues. But the drum feeds with no issues. Don't know the make of the drum. Ill ask him to send me some more pictures of the mags and action.

[beast556]

Tell him to get some commie mags. All us made mags are crap including tapco.

[Great-Kazoo]

I know he uses tapco mags and has issues. But the drum feeds with no issues. Don't know the make of the drum. Ill ask him to send me some more pictures of the mags and action.

The mag follower may need to be tweaked, same for the mag spring. Based with that info i suggest some COMMIE mags to eliminate a mag issue. The Tapco 7.62 mags i have work fine.


Tell him to get some commie mags. All us made mags are crap including tapco.

Heretic. EVEN Euro AK mags can cause issues. Most of them are due to mag to mag release fit and some could (like the tapcos) sit low enough the ratio of feed - FTF sucks. (hows that for technical)

[BPTactical]

Bullet guide needs work.

[Shootersfab]

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He sent me this one. If you guys need a shot from a different angle just let me know. I gave him the link to this thread so he can follow along.

[Great-Kazoo]

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He sent me this one. If you guys need a shot from a different angle just let me know. I gave him the link to this thread so he can follow along.

Since he's" following along" Have him or you, pm BP to get together.

[iceman3k]

Hello everyone! Thank you all for the comments and suggestions. This happens to be my riffle that shootersfab has been posting on my behalf. I would like to upload some more pictures to properly document the issue.
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[BPTactical]

Come see me, as I stated waaay back, the bullet guide needs work

[ray1970]

Come see me, as I stated waaay back, the bullet guide needs work

Or, you could sell it to me cheap since it is defective. [Coffee]

[Tinelement]

Glad iceman chimed in!......we all know shooter can't get shit done! [dig]

Anyway Ice, where is Slider??
[LOL]

[iceman3k]

Ok everyone, I just spoke to BPTatical and he told me that the rectangular block right below and in front of the mouth to the barrel is the problem. Apparently they put it there to make it more difficult to incorporate a double stack mag. This makes A LOT of sense because my single feed 75 rnd drum works perfectly!! Thanks BP!! I will be speaking again with you soon!

[iceman3k]

Glad iceman chimed in!......we all know shooter can't get shit done! [dig]

Anyway Ice, where is Slider??
[LOL]

I'm sorry but I have no idea. I don't even know who slider is lol.

[Tinelement]

Top Gun man!!!!

[ray1970]

You tell him, Goose.

[iceman3k]

HA!! I really need to watch that movie again! Been way to long. That way I will once again get your references lol

[ray1970]

Tinelement doesn't know about the real "Iceman".

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/chuck-liddell.png

[Tinelement]

And checkmate.....

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ok..... This is gay, I fold!!!

[ray1970]

And checkmate.....


ok..... This is gay, I fold!!!

[LOL]

[Great-Kazoo]

And checkmate.....

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ok..... This is gay, I fold!!!

Fold or Bend?

[palepainter]

Wow ...this went south real fast. Hahaha

[bryjcom]

Wow ...this went south real fast. Hahaha


Only on this site does talking about gun problems lead to ultra homo erotic gayness

I blame Ferrandino

[Great-Kazoo]

Wow ...this went south real fast. Hahaha

You're upset because, i posted it before you did.