Fitness and hiking club

[Sparky]

Just a thought. In an effort to lose a lot of weight I thought it may be more enjoyable if we got together and spend time hiking in the mountains. Weekdays meet at a park and walk or jog. Sloans lake is pretty cool. I really would like to get out and lose a lot of pounds. Just a thought. Any other ideas?

[kidicarus13]

Sloans lake is pretty cool. Any other ideas?
Bring your CCW

[hurley842002]

Now that I have the baby, I've got to modify my training routine a bit. In order to afford the family I plan to join the Margaret carpenter rec center. I will be running around the park there on 112th and Colorado on cardio days if anyone wants to join.

[Irving]

Now that I have the baby, I've got to modify my training routine a bit. In order to afford the family I plan to join the Margaret carpenter rec center. I will be running around the park there on 112th and Colorado on cardio days if anyone wants to join.

Ran There yesterday teaching my kid to ride her bike. Plan on going again several times this week.

Sparky, good idea. If you get Enough people, it won't be as big of a deal when not everyone can make it.

[02ducky]

I won't mind, elk and dear season is right around the corner.

[Fentonite]

I need to put in some time and effort too. I'd be up for some hikes and stuff, but the knees and back won't tolerate much running...

[Dingo]

Just a thought. In an effort to lose a lot of weight I thought it may be more enjoyable if we got together and spend time hiking in the mountains. Weekdays meet at a park and walk or jog. Sloans lake is pretty cool. I really would like to get out and lose a lot of pounds. Just a thought. Any other ideas?

I'd be down. Don't need to lose any weight, but my heart is in crappy shape. I get severely winded jogging a mile... hard to outrun zombies when that day comes! I could usually make it on Wednesdays or Tuesdays during the day...

[Tim K]

Just a thought for you guys, I've been training like a lunatic for the 24 hr sniper challenge. I run a lot, but I really ruck a lot. I've found that walking with a backpack gets my heartrate up into the slow to moderate jog range without all the impact trauma from running. Once the event is over, I'll probably still substitute some rucking for running in my normal workouts. I may, however, come down from a 55# ruck, though...

One other thought directed to Sparky. You probably already know this, but 75% of weight loss happens in the kitchen, not the gym. Get your diet under control or you'll just end up a strong fat guy. Ask me how I know.

[Sparky]

Well?????

[Sparky]

Did 2 trips around sloans lake today.

[Irving]

Did you ruck with a pack or just go around? How was it? Sloans is something like 2 miles around isn't it?

[Sparky]

Did you ruck with a pack or just go around? How was it? Sloans is something like 2 miles around isn't it?


No just brisk walk. My pedometer says 2.19 miles. I did it once in the morning and once in the evening. Lots of nice 2 legged scenery. I need a good backpack.

[Tim K]

From what I understand, you're doing it right. There's more benefit from two laps separated by some time than two consecutive laps.

Four miles walking is roughly 400 calories you burned, depending on how much you weigh. I'm 190 and that's close for me. Get your diet to about 1,000 calories under maintenance level, and you'll lose 2 lbs per week.

Do you have an iPhone? If so, there's an app called Lose It! that is a very effective and easy to use calorie counter. My sister lost 100# with it and has kept it off 6 years now. I still use it from time to time when my weight gets out of control. You tell it how fast you want to lose and it does all the math. As long as you don't eat crap, it works. The best part is it also tracks the calories you burn with exercise. If your normal daily allotment is 1,500 calories and you do two laps around Sloans, you get to eat 1,900 that day.

Keep it up!

[gnihcraes]

No just brisk walk. My pedometer says 2.19 miles. I did it once in the morning and once in the evening. Lots of nice 2 legged scenery. I need a good backpack.

with a bit of notice, I can probably make it over and ride the bike next to you. I probably can't make the entire trip walking. Fentonite is close too I believe. (sloans)

[SA Friday]

I started running again too. I retired and got fat and lazy. Daughter is thinking about military in a year too. So, 2-3 miles of running and walking every other afternoon. We've been throwing in other hiking and walking like we walked Castle Rock last week. We are using the running track by the creek, parking is just off of Meadows Rd after the creek overpass. It's pretty nice.

[Sparky]

From what I understand, you're doing it right. There's more benefit from two laps separated by some time than two consecutive laps.

Four miles walking is roughly 400 calories you burned, depending on how much you weigh. I'm 190 and that's close for me. Get your diet to about 1,000 calories under maintenance level, and you'll lose 2 lbs per week.

Do you have an iPhone? If so, there's an app called Lose It! that is a very effective and easy to use calorie counter. My sister lost 100# with it and has kept it off 6 years now. I still use it from time to time when my weight gets out of control. You tell it how fast you want to lose and it does all the math. As long as you don't eat crap, it works. The best part is it also tracks the calories you burn with exercise. If your normal daily allotment is 1,500 calories and you do two laps around Sloans, you get to eat 1,900 that day.

Keep it up!


I used the myfitnesspal app with good success last time I went on a weight loss. Using it again.

[BuffCyclist]

Not sure if anyone here knows about this site or not, but http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/ is a great link for determining running/walking route distances. I use it often to find out how long my run (scratch that, walks) actually are.

I've been trying to get back into running, but am having major knee problems leftover from bone grafting a few years ago. Could be a ligament issue, or a torn muscle. I am starting running with 90s walk, 60s run intervals. I can make it to the third or fourth run leg before I get excruciating pain in my knee and can barely hobble home. :/ Working with two doctors with it, but I've been a little on too lazy the past few weeks with work, and haven't gotten out to try running again.

[Sparky]

Not sure if anyone here knows about this site or not, but http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/ is a great link for determining running/walking route distances. I use it often to find out how long my run (scratch that, walks) actually are.

I've been trying to get back into running, but am having major knee problems leftover from bone grafting a few years ago. Could be a ligament issue, or a torn muscle. I am starting running with 90s walk, 60s run intervals. I can make it to the third or fourth run leg before I get excruciating pain in my knee and can barely hobble home. :/ Working with two doctors with it, but I've been a little on too lazy the past few weeks with work, and haven't gotten out to try running again.

I am not running right now. It hurts my shins and knees so bad. Thanks for the link bookmarked it.

[Sparky]

with a bit of notice, I can probably make it over and ride the bike next to you. I probably can't make the entire trip walking. Fentonite is close too I believe. (sloans)

I am going to try almost every night.

[Inconel710]

For those of you having knee issues when you run, I suggest you try a minimalist shoe like Vibram Five Fingers (the original, but no wide sizes), Fila Skeletoes (actually fit my square feet), or New Balance Minimus (pricey, looks like a regular shoe). These pretty much force you to use a barefoot running gait, where you land on the balls of your feet instead of the heel. That allows the arch of your foot, your Achilles tendon, and your calf muscle to act as a shock absorber for your knees. I've been using the Skeletoes for a few months now and I run about 6-7 miles a week. I've also backpacked in them (9 mile roundtrip overnighter).

It takes some time to get used to them, but I've had torn meniscus repaired once and this style of running doesn't cause me the knee pain I used to suffer. It was bad enough, that I pretty much quit running for a couple of years. "Barefoot" running has made it enjoyable again.

Another suggestion - squats and lunges. I do this at my desk while working and they help strengthen the muscles that stabilize the knee. I got that tip out of the Elk Foundation's magazine!

[hatidua]

For those of you having knee issues when you run, I suggest you try a minimalist shoe like Vibram Five Fingers (the original, but no wide sizes), Fila Skeletoes (actually fit my square feet), or New Balance Minimus (pricey, looks like a regular shoe). These pretty much force you to use a barefoot running gait, where you land on the balls of your feet instead of the heel. That allows the arch of your foot, your Achilles tendon, and your calf muscle to act as a shock absorber for your knees. I've been using the Skeletoes for a few months now and I run about 6-7 miles a week. I've also backpacked in them (9 mile roundtrip overnighter).

It takes some time to get used to them, but I've had torn meniscus repaired once and this style of running doesn't cause me the knee pain I used to suffer. It was bad enough, that I pretty much quit running for a couple of years. "Barefoot" running has made it enjoyable again.

Another suggestion - squats and lunges. I do this at my desk while working and they help strengthen the muscles that stabilize the knee. I got that tip out of the Elk Foundation's magazine!

Anyone considering going with a minimalist running shoe should thoroughly research that plan before doing so. A number of runners were over for dinner the other night and the topic of 'barely there' running shoes came up. Although many had adopted the Five Finger shoes early on, all of them have abandoned such shoes and some of the more serious running stores in town will no longer sell anything of that nature due to a larger number of injuries associated with such shoes. What worked for Zola Budd doesn't work for everyone.

Google for the various studies, but here is one to get started with: http://www.runnersworld.com/barefoot-running-minimalism/study-vibram-fivefingers-lead-greater-risk-foot-bone-injury

[Tim K]

Anyone considering going with a minimalist running shoe should thoroughly research that plan before doing so. A number of runners were over for dinner the other night and the topic of 'barely there' running shoes came up. Although many had adopted the Five Finger shoes early on, all of them have abandoned such shoes and some of the more serious running stores in town will no longer sell anything of that nature due to a larger number of injuries associated with such shoes. What worked for Zola Budd doesn't work for everyone.

Google for the various studies, but here is one to get started with: http://www.runnersworld.com/barefoot-running-minimalism/study-vibram-fivefingers-lead-greater-risk-foot-bone-injury

I've been running minimalist for 4 years now. They may not work for everyone, but for some of us they are the only way we can run. In traditional shoes, I could run 2 miles, twice a week. Between runs I had to use ice and Advil for the knee pain.

Up until just recently, I was running 18 miles a week with no pain. That was my weekly minimum, some weeks were 5-6 miles more. I still run minimalist, but I'm training for an event and am doing other things for exercise at the moment. I'll never be a true high mileage runner, there is still pain if I run too much. However, I wouldn't be a runner at all without the minimalist shoes.

[Sparky]

Going to head out to Sloans Lake about 6:30

[Tim K]

Atta baby, keep up the good work. Weight loss is all about attitude and dedication.

[Irving]

I run in Vibrams, and would strongly recommend against rucking, or even walking in them. Walking is too slow and too difficult to land mid foot with your steps unless you want to feel like you are shuffling every where. That's my opinion /experience.

[Tim K]

I run in Vibrams, and would strongly recommend against rucking, or even walking in them. Walking is too slow and too difficult to land mid foot with your steps unless you want to feel like you are shuffling every where. That's my opinion /experience.

I agree absolutely. Minimalist shoes for running only. Walking in them sucks.

[hatidua]

I've been running minimalist for 4 years now. They may not work for everyone, but for some of us they are the only way we can run.

I don't have an iron in this fire, my running days are behind me, just passing along what my runner friends have mentioned. Glad to hear they work for you.

[Irving]

I went out for a run today, and hatidua's earlier post motivated me to run a little further than usual. Due to poor planning I accidentally ran 5 miles. I've only ever run 3.2 in these shoes.
I didn't have the calf soreness I mentioned in the other thread, and am overall excited about how far I ran barefoot. I'm less excited about the grapefruit sized blisters I have now.Thanks hatidua.

Oh yeah, Endomondo says I burned 914 calories. Not bad.

Tim, do you find that a high heel is preferable in your boots when you are rucking?

[RobertB]

I saw a commie chick climbing up Mt. Sinai in high heels, and it didn't look real comfortable. She didn't even have a ruck. I'd recommend against it.