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13 day juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 270.4
Previous Weight: 272.8
Lost since yesterday: 2.2
Total Weight lost: 20.4
I broke the 20lb mark today and I feel great! Half a pound away from not being in the 270's anymore. I can't wait to get up tomorrow morning and see 260's on the scale. Wow. That's just crazy. It hasn't even been 2 weeks yet. Still hard to believe.
ok so was talking to a health nut friend of mine who does juicing diets once in a while and she said if you don't want to pay for the juicer up front or don't have the time/energy to juice stuff just buy the naked juices in the larger bottles, get berry veggie or green machine or something like that, pour them into a larger container like a gallon jug or something and dilute with water. they are almost smoothie thickness and the dilution will make them a bit more like juice and go a longer ways. in the end its about $9 per day for a full days worth of juice.
its not quite as good as juicing yourself but is an option.
That sounds like pretty solid advice. I mean, you need to drink water anyway so if you don't mind the flavor watered down it will help stretch it out. I'm of the mindset that you don't really want to 'stretch out' your juice when it's all you're taking in but your friend probably knows more than me. Maybe naked juice is stronger tasting than Bolthouse Farms.. I don't really remember now. I do know that what I'm spending on even store-bought juice isn't that much. It may seem that way on paper but most people spend what I spend for a day of store-bought juice on a single meal if you go out at all. I'm pretty sure I'm less than $10 per day and that's usually a meal of going out... two if you eat at Taco Bell of fast food where there's a deal. One of the reasons I can afford to do this one now as compared to more 'healthy eating' diets is because it's cheap. Once I'm done I'm going to have to figure out how to maintain on a budget which is going to be more difficult since good food (read: real) is generally more expensive than that crappy stuff that keeps forever.
Day 5
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 286.6
Current Weight: 284.6
I'm starting to hit my stride. I just need to find a couple more juice recipes to keep things interesting. A single serrano didn't do jack for my juice yesterday so I'll bump it up to two.
A little TMI, but... I haven't had a "regular" BM, or a BM at all for that matter, all week. Normal or not?
Nice dude! As to your question, it's been pretty standard for me. First day was blowing out the thundermug like a dozen times. Now it's like once every other day or more and it's not what I would call 'regular' but lately it's starting to trend more towards what I would call regular. It seems that when I juice my own juice I get more solider pewps but that might have something to do with the sodium I keep accidentally taking in when I do that. The more I toy with juicing my own fruits and veggies the more I feel like sticking with Bolthouse Farms juices. It's way easier and I don't have to worry about making a $20 pitcher of horse vomit.
Guess I showed some restraint then. I'd stop at four eggs, depending upon what kind of meat came along with it all and how much of it. Oh, and the big pile of hashbrowns had to have cheese on it! But I'd add chopped onions to make it "healthy".
Adding veggies doesn't negate the rest of the crap that you take in. A hard lesson I've had to learn.
13 day juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 270.4
Previous Weight: 272.8
Lost since yesterday: 2.2
Total Weight lost: 20.4
I broke the 20lb mark today and I feel great! Half a pound away from not being in the 270's anymore. I can't wait to get up tomorrow morning and see 260's on the scale. Wow. That's just crazy. It hasn't even been 2 weeks yet. Still hard to believe.
Wow, way to go! Keep updating us please! I've started, but haven't gotten fully engaged yet. Lost a couple pounds, enough that I can button my shorts now anyway. Still trying to absorb info, bought a recipe book last night, wife is getting input from several of her friends so that'll help my cause as well. Drinking water and pissing like a horse.
So far I'm finding out that store-bought veggies are marginal at best, Certified Organic are mucho better but mucho more $$$, and then there's the whole Genetically Modified bullshit from Monsanto that's in every corner of every store in the country and poisoning us all. Jeeze.
Adding veggies doesn't negate the rest of the crap that you take in. A hard lesson I've had to learn.
Oh I know, just being a smartass - hench the "quote marks". Should have used this http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/smilies/sarcasm02.gif
Wow, way to go! Keep updating us please! I've started, but haven't gotten fully engaged yet. Lost a couple pounds, enough that I can button my shorts now anyway. Still trying to absorb info, bought a recipe book last night, wife is getting input from several of her friends so that'll help my cause as well. Drinking water and pissing like a horse.
So far I'm finding out that store-bought veggies are marginal at best, Certified Organic are mucho better but mucho more $$$, and then there's the whole Genetically Modified bullshit from Monsanto that's in every corner of every store in the country and poisoning us all. Jeeze.
Oh I know, just being a smartass - hench the "quote marks". Should have used this http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/smilies/sarcasm02.gif
I figured you weren't serious. Just stating the obvious I suppose. I think you just need to go all-in and the results will come man. The pounds just melt off and it's VERY motivating knowing you're doing it right and the results speak for themselves. This is truly the easiest weight I've ever lost. Ever.
blacklabel
07-13-2013, 16:10
This is truly the easiest weight I've ever lost. Ever.
That's the damn truth. I don't do anything other than juice and lose 1.5-2 pounds per day. I'm planning on adding in some mild exercise to begin that habit but you can do this, lose weight and be completely lazy.
That's the damn truth. I don't do anything other than juice and lose 1.5-2 pounds per day. I'm planning on adding in some mild exercise to begin that habit but you can do this, lose weight and be completely lazy.
I'm so used to working my ASS off just get a fraction of these gains. Eating horrible tasting stuff and lifting houses and racing traffic on the highway only nets a couple lbs here and there. I feel like I'm cheating compared to that. I know that I will have to go back to that again and I look forward to it once I'm to a more manageable weight but for now... I'm just enjoying this. As for exercising, be careful man. I mowed again today and what I used to do like it was nothing now is something I have to plan for and prepare for and take easy. It takes me almost twice as long to mow two lawns as it once did and I'm spent when I'm done. Your body is having to burn fat for energy and this is a slow process as compared to just burning the food you have in your system for instant fuel. This makes WAY more of a difference then I thought it would. Even though I was fat I was strong like bull and could power through most endurance things w/o having to take a break. I've always been a bit of work horse and in a way it helped me to get as fat as I am because I could justify the weight with the strength and endurance. So it's quite a change to still be fat but have neither one of those to justify it. I just want to get healthy and then work in some healthy foods to fuel the machine and get my physical fitness up. I'm thinking Crossfit may be the way to go. I have two buddies that are certified Crossfit trainers that have gyms but I was too fat to do most of the body resistance stuff which is just about everything. I sit and watch the Crossfit competitions on ESPN (like I am now) and this crap is incredibly motivating. Makes me want to rush and do all this stuff right now but I know I can't. Hell, right now I get winded when I fart and change the channel on the remote at the same time. lol
Ordered the juicer yesterday and will give this a whirl when it arrives. I realize I could buy the juice but I'd prefer to make it myself.
I figured you weren't serious. Just stating the obvious I suppose. I think you just need to go all-in and the results will come man. The pounds just melt off and it's VERY motivating knowing you're doing it right and the results speak for themselves. This is truly the easiest weight I've ever lost. Ever.
I've never met you so I don't know your age, but I've possibly been overweight longer than you've been alive. So yes, I need to do this and I will, but I've learned to take things slow and carefully rather than jumping in immediately. Besides, I know myself and how quickly I can convince myself that something like this isn't for me. Other diets and drugs, quickly tossed aside. I can't stand friggin' diet pills.
I've had the opportunity to have gastric bypass surgery fully paid 100% for many years, and I've known many people that had it successfully, but that's one pool I tiptoed very cautiously around the edge of. Good sense, caution and research told me to stay the hell out of that water. I could have jumped in full-on many times.
Same with other plans that you have to commit to and pay for. A friend of mine has been doing the Slimgenics plan and has lost a ton, but he waves me away from it because it's so expensive.
Got a lot of good info today, the wife got the word about this from some good friends, watched FS&ND with me and said she'll support me without ragging, so I'ma going shopping tonight! Tomorrow morning, it begins in earnest.
I have a co-worker that did a Juice diet and he did well, but I just cannot see just drinking Juice only.
blacklabel
07-13-2013, 22:30
I have a co-worker that did a Juice diet and he did well, but I just cannot see just drinking Juice only.
It's easier than you think.
BigNick73
07-13-2013, 23:43
Saw the movie, it's on hulu. Does the juice really make you feel that much better?
Bought a bike last summer, got down in the 320s and started counting calories May 1st of this year (weight watchers then swapped to the loseit! app on my phone). Hit 289 this morning. Plenty happy with current results averaging just under half a pound a day on a 2400 calorie a day budget, not hungry at all, usually under 2400, and realized how much I was actually overeating and how crappy a lot of the stuff I was eating is. But this thread has intrigued me enough I'm thinking of trying a 3 day, or maybe just as a supplement, to replace breakfast.
claimbuster
07-14-2013, 01:07
I was on a grape juice diet for many years. Cabernet, Chardonnay were some of my favorites. Didn't lose any weight though.
DavieD55
07-14-2013, 05:23
I was on a grape juice diet for many years. Cabernet, Chardonnay were some of my favorites. Didn't lose any weight though.
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blacklabel
07-14-2013, 07:56
Day 5
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 284.6
Current Weight: 283.8
I really wanted that ten pounds today and there's no way I'm going to hit the numbers that Jer has hit but that's alright because I'm still making progress.
A couple of factors yesterday; I only juiced twice and had to have a Naked juice while I was down in Denver. I think the lack of juicing slowed me down. I'll get back on it today. I'd like to keep a pound to pound and a half per day rate going.
I'm doing a modified version, started monday. I dont weigh everyday.
Mon-Thur completely gave up all wheat products.
Fri through current juice for break and lunch eat salad with meat for dinner. I have been using the bolthouse juices as well.
Mon 383.5
Today 369.4
14.1 pounds so far.
blacklabel
07-14-2013, 09:32
I'm doing a modified version, started monday. I dont weigh everyday.
Mon-Thur completely gave up all wheat products.
Fri through current juice for break and lunch eat salad with meat for dinner. I have been using the bolthouse juices as well.
Mon 383.5
Today 369.4
14.1 pounds so far.
Very nice!
Seen the HB juicer at Walmart today. I was tempted.
Man, Jer wasn't kidding about the energy part! I've never had any problem mowing our yard before, but I just finished and I feel like I've been hauling stones for The Pyramids or something. They said the first few days would be doozies.
I've also come to the conclusion that my Jack Lalanne juicer from Goodwill is a piece of shit, even though it's all there and in good shape. Does OK with fruit and some things, but it can't handle kale and celery worth a hoot. Gotta make it do for now.
And the cleanup isn't much fun either. But we trudge on.
Seen the HB juicer at Walmart today. I was tempted.
HB? What's HB? I don't want to dig back through all the posts to find out, sorry.
Oh hell, Hamilton Beach - duh. Never mind. Told ya the lawn beat me down. Think I'll go grind some tomatoes.
So count me in on this juice bandwagon because I've been sitting around not getting proper exercise for the last couple of months while a leg injury heals, so this would be as good of a time as any to modify my diet for a while. Loaded a weight tracking app on the phone and will start tomorrow.
Thanks Jer and others for getting the ball rolling and tracking progress with advice...
Next thing you know we'll need an buyer's intel thread on which stores still have juice in stock... (for those of us not yet accomplished self-juicers yet)
And the secret word for today is - Tabasco Sauce! Just whipped up some tomatoes, celery, carrots and a red bell pepper, was OK but "needed something". Tablespoon of Red Tabasco fixed it right up.
Day 5
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 284.6
Current Weight: 283.8
I really wanted that ten pounds today and there's no way I'm going to hit the numbers that Jer has hit but that's alright because I'm still making progress.
A couple of factors yesterday; I only juiced twice and had to have a Naked juice while I was down in Denver. I think the lack of juicing slowed me down. I'll get back on it today. I'd like to keep a pound to pound and a half per day rate going.
I know how you feel man. I wanted to hit a goal but this weekend and came up a couple of ticks short as well. On top of that I weighed in exactly the same this morning as I did yesterday morning... I lost no weight. This is baffling to me especially considering that yesterday was mowing day and between our yard and our neighbor's yard it's a couple hours of exercise. So how is it I can lead a mostly sedentary lifestyle 6 days a week and lose about a pound and a half on average and then the one day I do exercise I break even? My working theory is that my body chose to retain more water than usual given the workout. If this theory holds true (like the last time I took in sodium unknowingly) I should see a weight tomorrow morning nearly double what it generally is. Either way, barring another break even 24hr period I should break into the 260's which is awesome for me. I appreciate the comment about the #'s I've hit but I honestly don't know the secret. I just drink juice and lots of water and the weight just seems to melt off. If I could think of some sort of tip to suggest for better results I would certainly throw it out there. You getting plenty of water? I know that as your body burns the fat it needs to be hydrated even more so than usual so maybe try a few days of drinking more water just to see but make sure you weight yourself before drinking water in the morning, after you pee. That's what I've been doing to get the most accurate weights.
I'm doing a modified version, started monday. I dont weigh everyday.
Mon-Thur completely gave up all wheat products.
Fri through current juice for break and lunch eat salad with meat for dinner. I have been using the bolthouse juices as well.
Mon 383.5
Today 369.4
14.1 pounds so far.
Wow! Nice work man! Surprised to see such good #'s with a modified version of the diet because everything that I've read says you need to go 100% into it or you may actually gain weight depending on how your body reacts. You're one of the lucky ones I guess. lol Out of curiosity, how old are you? If you don't want to answer that's fine since it's kind of a personal question. Since we're all talking about BM's and weights I figured we're all close. lol
Seen the HB juicer at Walmart today. I was tempted.
Go for it. Worst case scenario Walmart has a very generous return policy so long as you hold onto the receipt. They're pretty good the only downside is the time it takes to juice and clean-up. That part sucks. Seems it's pretty much the same across the board in that category though.
Man, Jer wasn't kidding about the energy part! I've never had any problem mowing our yard before, but I just finished and I feel like I've been hauling stones for The Pyramids or something. They said the first few days would be doozies.
I've also come to the conclusion that my Jack Lalanne juicer from Goodwill is a piece of shit, even though it's all there and in good shape. Does OK with fruit and some things, but it can't handle kale and celery worth a hoot. Gotta make it do for now.
And the cleanup isn't much fun either. But we trudge on.
I had the 2nd mow day since I started and this one went MUCH better than the first one. I made a point of drinking lots of juice right when I woke up followed by about an hour of hydrating and then took a big glass of ice water to drink while I worked. I used the propelled feature (our lawns have quite the slopes in this neighborhood) of the mower a lot more than I normally do and let it do more of the work. I took my time and while I did feel a little bit out breath but nothing like the last time. That was a good feeling to know that I can continue to do the things that I do while on this diet. Just juice up and take your time.
Clean-up sucks. Big time. I find myself not juicing sometimes just because of this unfortunately. I grab a store-bought bottle instead.
So count me in on this juice bandwagon because I've been sitting around not getting proper exercise for the last couple of months while a leg injury heals, so this would be as good of a time as any to modify my diet for a while. Loaded a weight tracking app on the phone and will start tomorrow.
Thanks Jer and others for getting the ball rolling and tracking progress with advice...
Next thing you know we'll need an buyer's intel thread on which stores still have juice in stock... (for those of us not yet accomplished self-juicers yet)
Sure thing man! Glad airing this out publicly helped to get others to get more serious about getting healthy too. I didn't intend for that but sure am glad it's worked out that way and glad I can share whatever things I've managed to learn over the last few weeks and my experiences. Make sure you're posting updates and any info you can add to the conversation.
And the secret word for today is - Tabasco Sauce! Just whipped up some tomatoes, celery, carrots and a red bell pepper, was OK but "needed something". Tablespoon of Red Tabasco fixed it right up.
Jalapeno, Serrano & Habanero peppers are good options too. That's how spicy they are too in order FYI. I've put serrano peppers in a few of the concoctions I've made and they do a real good job. Just add them slowly because I was under the impression they weren't very spicy... until I put one more in. lol Wowzers. Not sure what the sodium level is of Tobassco and I know it doesn't take much for flavor but that's also something that you need to take into consideration. I'm super sensitive to what I put in my juices after that fiasco I went through last week.
The wife had a friend over for dinner, I had to grill 6 boneless pork chops and 4 boneless country style ribs w/BBQ sauce. There was corn on the cob, taters, and caeser salad too. Damn, it all looked good!
I had a liter of water. Man.....
blacklabel
07-14-2013, 21:54
You getting plenty of water? I know that as your body burns the fat it needs to be hydrated even more so than usual so maybe try a few days of drinking more water just to see but make sure you weight yourself before drinking water in the morning, after you pee. That's what I've been doing to get the most accurate weights.
I'm pretty sure it's a lack of water. My water intake is crap on the weekends and great during the week.
I'm pretty sure it's a lack of water. My water intake is crap on the weekends and great during the week.
It's hard to drink a lot of water. Is for me anyway. You know what fish do in that stuff? Gives me the willies.
The wife had a friend over for dinner, I had to grill 6 boneless pork chops and 4 boneless country style ribs w/BBQ sauce. There was corn on the cob, taters, and caeser salad too. Damn, it all looked good!
I had a liter of water. Man.....
Good job man! That must have been hard but you just have to keep the goal in mind. It will all be worth it in the end.
I'm pretty sure it's a lack of water. My water intake is crap on the weekends and great during the week.
That's probably it man. You need to be hydrated for your body to be able to process the fat. If you're not getting enough water you'll not only not burn as much fat as you could but you get dehydrated quicker too. If you start throwing up & feeling like shit it'll put a real damper on the diet.
blacklabel
07-15-2013, 07:54
Day 6
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 283.8
Current Weight: 283.6
I'll be pounding the water today.
lowspeed_highdrag
07-15-2013, 09:04
Did a "soup" diet to get into the Marine Corps. Lost 12 lbs in 2 weeks, then felt like shit at the beginning of boot camp.
Well, I've hit a wall. For some reason when I weighed myself yesterday morning I was the exact same weight. The day before I mowed for a couple of hours and that was about the only change from what I've been doing. I figured it was some sort of random anomaly and that things would get back on track today well.... no. I actually gained 0.2lbs. I'm not sure how this is even possible but I'm going to look into it now. One day it was pretty easy to shrug off and say.. oh well, no big deal. But two days in a row with a gain and it's a little bit more difficult to shrug off. Not getting to eat food sucked enough when there was results to show for it, and good ones. It's more difficult when nothing is happening (let alone trending the wrong way) to justify doing this. People were telling me good job and I felt guilty since I really wasn't doing anything worthy of praise other than doing something about it since I'm not really doing anything. The flip side to that coin is that when something like this happens there's nothing I can do about it. When you're working out you just work out harder. I can't drink more juice. I'm continuing with the diet but am going to look into if this is common but so far from the videos I watched before I started. I guess if I have a 3rd day of no weight loss I will have a serious decision to make. I hate that I'm even considering this at this point as I was fully ready to go 60 days but if the weight loss stops it's kind of pointless.
Well, I've hit a wall. For some reason when I weighed myself yesterday morning I was the exact same weight. The day before I mowed for a couple of hours and that was about the only change from what I've been doing. I figured it was some sort of random anomaly and that things would get back on track today well.... no. I actually gained 0.2lbs. I'm not sure how this is even possible but I'm going to look into it now. One day it was pretty easy to shrug off and say.. oh well, no big deal. But two days in a row with a gain and it's a little bit more difficult to shrug off. Not getting to eat food sucked enough when there was results to show for it, and good ones. It's more difficult when nothing is happening (let alone trending the wrong way) to justify doing this. People were telling me good job and I felt guilty since I really wasn't doing anything worthy of praise other than doing something about it since I'm not really doing anything. The flip side to that coin is that when something like this happens there's nothing I can do about it. When you're working out you just work out harder. I can't drink more juice. I'm continuing with the diet but am going to look into if this is common but so far from the videos I watched before I started. I guess if I have a 3rd day of no weight loss I will have a serious decision to make. I hate that I'm even considering this at this point as I was fully ready to go 60 days but if the weight loss stops it's kind of pointless.
http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/forums/topic/not-losing-weight/
http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/forums/topic/not-losing-weight/
So people plateau and nobody has a solid answer as to why. Some say it's not enough water and some say it's too much. That guy saying it's too much is being purposefully vague when he says that too much water can be dangerous because this is true but it takes a LOT of water to get to the dangers he's talking about. Suffice it to say I'm not drinking too much water and I seriously doubt I'm not drinking enough. So what now? I guess I could try switching to juicing vegetables and less of the fruit juices to see what happens but I just don't know. I see some are talking about the ratio of fruit juices to vegetable juices and mine is out of whack compared to that certainly. I guess I could try that and see what happens. Part of me is leaning towards just stopping the diet and starting to mix in a healthier lifestyle in the form of eating and working out (when possible) and see if I can maintain the same amount of weight loss while eating food again. Maybe I'm just disgruntled given the recent results or lack thereof.
I would try changing things up. I read on that you may want to juice fruit and veggies separate and ait at least 1/2 hour between drinking each. Have you tried walking also? Now may be a good time to incorporate some exercise. Don't give up.
I would try changing things up. I read on that you may want to juice fruit and veggies separate and ait at least 1/2 hour between drinking each. Have you tried walking also? Now may be a good time to incorporate some exercise. Don't give up.
Like I said, 2hrs of exercise Saturday morning appeared to be the catalyst of these new issues.
blacklabel
07-15-2013, 10:34
I definitely get where you're coming from Jer. If I'm not seeing results then I'm going to give in to my desire for a salad and a chicken breast. I don't even want junk food, just something solid.
I'd try cutting down on the fruit juice to see how that goes.
Not sure if this helps. Just throwing it out there.
http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/breaking-through-a-weight-loss-plateau/
JMO, but I'd say don't stress about it, and just keep on keepin' on. Your body's probably just dragging its heels a little and saying "whoa, what's going on? My lovely fat stores are shrinking!" It'll come back around, I'm sure. Just trudge on and you'll probably wake up one day on the other side of that wall.
Kinda like investing in a stock, I reckon. The price of any given stock or other market-traded financial instrument never goes in a straight line up or down, it always moves back and forth between up and down. The long-term trend may be either up or down, bullish or bearish, but the daily moves will bounce back and forth. Your weight loss trend is definitely downward/bearish, you're just having a little bullish pullback. The bearish trend will return and continue.
Whew! Too much philosophy this early.....
What Ron said. It's not a big deal at this point. It's not enough time to declare a plateau, and certainly isn't "trending."
If you quit now, you'll never know what the results of 60 days would have been. As long as you keep your calories low, you body will HAVE to use something for energy. There is no such thing as not eating, but staying fat. You're not some magic anamoly. So suck it up and keep going.
I'm going to change the route of attack slightly and carry on. I just made some mostly veggie juices with the juicer and will take 24hrs off from the Bolthouse Farms juices. Not sure if the deal is too much sugar but I'm certainly getting tired of too much sweet so it will be a welcomed relief. I think I was just venting this morning and thought about not posting but wanted to do so for those who might be following this to see it's not all roses. I figured one of two things would happen: 1) I would find out that this diet wasn't the answer and wasn't working for me and I wanted others to know that it didn't work for everyone if I decided to end the fast after a few days of no progress or 2) I wanted others to see that you can run into walls and you should expect to get through them if I decided to stick with it. No matter what happens at this point it's been documented for others to see. I'll do fresh juice from veggies today and see what the scale says tomorrow morning.
I definitely get where you're coming from Jer. If I'm not seeing results then I'm going to give in to my desire for a salad and a chicken breast. I don't even want junk food, just something solid.
I'd try cutting down on the fruit juice to see how that goes.
I hear ya man. The physical hunger pains subsided a long time ago but the mental hunger pains make me want to eat a juicy steak right now. (I swear I've seen more steaks on TV, commercials, movies this last week then the entire year leading to this point) But, I'm not going to give in that easily.
Not sure if this helps. Just throwing it out there.
http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/breaking-through-a-weight-loss-plateau/
Thanks for this link. Very good information and it sounds like I'm doing some of it already today and the others for the most part haven't been a problem. I'll keep it for reference for sure.
What Ron said. It's not a big deal at this point. It's not enough time to declare a plateau, and certainly isn't "trending."
If you quit now, you'll never know what the results of 60 days would have been. As long as you keep your calories low, you body will HAVE to use something for energy. There is no such thing as not eating, but staying fat. You're not some magic anamoly. So suck it up and keep going.
I know. I was thinking the same thing of how can I be not eating and yet not losing weight and even gaining? Just momentarily frustrated me because for the first time since I started I had a near term goal in mind... hitting the 260's. Based on my recent loss of about 1.5lbs per day I was guessing that by the time I woke up Sunday morning I would be barely into the 260's. Needless to say I was surprised when I weighed exactly the same as I did the day before. I weighed myself several times to make sure and get a lower weight. I convinced myself that it was due to the couple of hours of exercise the morning before and my body was retaining more of the water that I took in thinking I was going to keep throwing strenuous activity in like that moving forward. I was sure that today I would not only lose the usual 1.5lbs but an additional 1.5lbs due to lost water weight... kind of like the time I took in too much sodium accidentally. I was relieved the next day when my predictions were almost exact to the ounce. This time... it didn't go that way. So as you can see the pressure I put on myself is what lead to my let down. I will just keep on keepin' on and stop trying to track my progress or I should say predict. I will track it still so I can journal the progress but I'm not going to guess how much I should be losing and where I should be in a few days. Normally with diet and weight loss you do that but this is clearly different so I will do my best to not set expectations so I can't be let down. It's just tough when you do so well and figure things will slow down but this is one I didn't see coming.
2 week juice fast check-in (technically day 15 but we won't get into the math associated with these terms):
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 270.6
Previous Weight: 270.4
Lost since yesterday: +0.2 :-(
Total Weight lost: 20.2
The first thing that might jump out at you was that I've gained weight for the first time during this 2 weeks. Sunday when I got up I was the same weight I was Saturday morning & today I had expected to wake up to even higher loss than my recent trend of 1.5lbs/day. Needless to say I was surprised and bummed to see that my weight had not only not decreased once again but had actually gone up. I did some research and it seems as though these plateaus can happen with juice diets and I'm changing a few things to try to keep ahead of the curve and get back on the gravy train. Sparky posted this link (http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/breaking-through-a-weight-loss-plateau/) with some pro tips on overcoming a weight loss plateau so I'm going to try a few of those as most of the rest were in line. One of the big things I think is that I'm going to make more veggie juices. I had been wanting to do that anyway and this list even mentions that. I think I saw that you want a split of 80/20 veggie/fruit intake so I will start trying to get closer to that as I had been drinking more of the fruit Bolthouse Farm juices. I was starting to get tired of the sweet taste anyway so I decided to start doing more veggies. I'm going to do nothing but fresh veggie juices for the next 24hrs and see how that affects things. Here's a recipe I just made that is pretty tasty:
5 carrots
5 stalks celery
1/2 green pepper
2 tomatoes
1/2 head broccoli w/stem
1 Serrano Pepper
This yields one large glass of juice and is pretty tasty. The flavor is pretty mellow and you would probably even lower the carrots and celery by 1 for less juice if you don't want it and this would serve to enhance the other flavors.
I just wanted to post an update even though it wasn't positive for those keeping an eye on things to see that it happens and don't let it discourage you if/when it does. Check that link and see if there's anything you can do to spark the loss again or if it's just going to be a matter of time.
I just wanted to post an update even though it wasn't positive for those keeping an eye on things to see that it happens and don't let it discourage you if/when it does. Check that link and see if there's anything you can do to spark the loss again or if it's just going to be a matter of time.
No worries. Hitting a wall can happen with just about any kind of diet or exercise routine, and the solutions will vary. After a quick 20lb loss, this doesn't surprise me.
After the fast is over, be sure to watch your diet for a while. VERY common to gain it all back very quickly if you don't. What time you eat is important too. For weight loss you do not want to have a heavy meal late in the day, and reduce the use of high fat foods like butter, sour cream, cheeses, peanut butter, ice cream. Generally better to reduce consumption than to try substituting with low fat or no fat alternatives.
No worries. Hitting a wall can happen with just about any kind of diet or exercise routine, and the solutions will vary. After a quick 20lb loss, this doesn't surprise me.
With other diets & workout routines I expected this. With this fast I didn't see it coming for several reasons. The first is that you're limiting your intake so the body HAS to make energy from something. It can't just manifest it out of mid air. I'm still largely perplexed by this actually and fully understand the physiology of why it happens for other diets and exercise routines but this is a fast more than a diet even though I continue using the word diet. The next reason was based on the fact that the videos I saw nobody had a day of even losing no weight let along gaining weight. Maybe I need to watch them again just to see if it did happen and maybe I missed it but for anyone who did daily updates I don't recall once seeing a gain. There were some that didn't do daily updates and maybe it was fudged within the numbers there somewhere but I'm not counting those. I get that this is what's happening to me I just don't quite grasp how the physiology plays out.
After the fast is over, be sure to watch your diet for a while. VERY common to gain it all back very quickly if you don't. What time you eat is important too. For weight loss you do not want to have a heavy meal late in the day, and reduce the use of high fat foods like butter, sour cream, cheeses, peanut butter, ice cream. Generally better to reduce consumption than to try substituting with low fat or no fat alternatives.
Like I said before, I will likely start but cutting out all dairy and (most) all grains. I saw most because I know I will have the occasional sushi or roll or something like that. Heck, most of those foods you listed I didn't eat before and have no intention to eat now. Your note on reducing consumption is where I plan to focus my efforts. I can tell now that my cravings will make it difficult to try to substitute because I'm not going to feel 'satisfied' with that. I will instead however reduce portion size drastically. I went through a phase many years ago where I ate half of everything I normally would. If it was something I could save to eat for another meal I would put half in a to go box before I even started eating. If it didn't I threw half away. That right there is a HUGE step in cutting your calories in half w/o doing anything else. Of course I will also modify what I take in along with that and at this point I have no desire to even eat fast food so I'm hoping that stays and I can avoid it entirely. I know it won't be possible but I will play by a few guidelines when it can't be avoided: Eat only half, no fries, no bun or bread, no pop... etc. As I stated the cravings at this point aren't even fast food so I'm going to try to just avoid them entirely if at all possible. Heck, if possible I may even just have juice if they have it or I can get some nearby rather than being 'forced' to eat fast food. That's the biggest part of this diet is to break myself of these habits & cravings I've formed so that I can just make better decisions every day, every meal. In the end that will result being healthier even if I'm not juice fasting anymore.
Haven't seen anyone else ask yet, so I guess I'll be the guy.
What's the poop situation with this diet?
blacklabel
07-15-2013, 19:13
Haven't seen anyone else ask yet, so I guess I'll be the guy.
What's the poop situation with this diet?
Freaking non existent for me. I've had 2 in a week. Apparently that's a bad thing though and I need to remedy it. It'll also net me more weight lost. Score!
psylium powder or ground flax seed will help with that.
remember if you drop below 1000-1200 calories a day your body will go into conservation mode and you may actually gain for a little bit, you may not be getting enough calories... more juice
remember if you drop below 1000-1200 calories a day your body will go into conservation mode and you may actually gain for a little bit, you may not be getting enough calories... more juice
Yup -- important to keep this in mind!
blacklabel
07-15-2013, 20:40
psylium powder or ground flax seed will help with that.
Noted. Thanks for the info.
So much misinformation.....
Yeah, I miss blowing up the toilet. One of life's little pleasures ya know.
So much misinformation.....
Good. I was kind or thinking the same thing.
USAFGopherMike
07-15-2013, 23:34
Not all information that is contradictory to what you believe is misinformation. I've been through the same plateau on multiple diets. Here is some information I found on the topic:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/weight-loss-plateau/MY01152
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/10-ways-to-move-beyond-a-weight-loss-plateau
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-instinct-diet/200903/plateaus-why-they-happen-and-how-get-through-them
http://www.familydoctormag.com/fitness/258-how-to-solve-a-weight-loss-plateau-causes-and-solutions-from-an-expert.html
Bottom line, go with what you know and keep it up. You're doing great and inspiring others.
blacklabel
07-16-2013, 07:06
Day 7
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 283.6
Current Weight: 282.7
I pounded the water and drank a bit more juice than I had over the weekend. Feels damn good to hit that 10lb mark. I'll keep my water intake up and see how the week goes.
Looking into the constipation issue, I'm going to try wheatgrass or papaya which should move things along.
So I tried one of the protien ones from bolthouse. Not very good and I am just dragging. I will skip on those in the future but it was all the store near the hotel had this am.
Day 16 juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 269.2
Previous Weight: 270.6
Lost since yesterday: 1.4
Total Weight lost: 21.6
Finally, into the 260's! A few days behind 'schedule' but at least it happened. I'm still well ahead of the overall pace to hit 60lbs in 60 days so I shouldn't complain too much. I'm back on track with my usual 1.4lbs per day that I've been losing the past week or so. I feel like the fact that I switched to all veggie juices yesterday (one had a little bit of apple in it) that I juiced fresh was the solution. I'll start working Bolthouse Farms juices back in but just at a lower rate than I had before. Hopefully I don't have any more days of no weight loss or even weight gain because that was frustrating. Sounds like some people have it happen longer than I did so I shouldn't complain too much. It was just getting easy to expect to see big weight loss each day.
Day 7
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 283.6
Current Weight: 282.7
I pounded the water and drank a bit more juice than I had over the weekend. Feels damn good to hit that 10lb mark. I'll keep my water intake up and see how the week goes.
Looking into the constipation issue, I'm going to try wheatgrass or papaya which should move things along.
Good job man. The double digit mark feels great as it feels like you're making good progress. Sounds like water could have been your hold-up maybe. Don't worry too much about BM's as mine have been every couple (few?) of days and they've been more 'regular' lately too which is surprising given all I'm taking in is liquid. No constipation issues at all and I've been at the other end of that. Maybe try more fruits than veggies if you're having that issue and are taking in mostly veggie juices. Then again, if they're fine but just aren't happening real often I wouldn't worry about that at all. After all, your body is making something solid(ish) from nothing but liquid so it takes time to create something from nothing. lol
So I tried one of the protien ones from bolthouse. Not very good and I am just dragging. I will skip on those in the future but it was all the store near the hotel had this am.
Good to hear and now I have my answer. I was wondering about that specific juice and asked earlier but nobody had the answer. I'll continue to avoid it, thanks!
I didn't really "start" until Sunday, but I think I'm down about 8lbs. I wanted to try it and see if I liked it.
The Jack Lalanne juicer I got at Goodwill is crap, even though it's in great shape. Just crap to begin with. But, it's allowed me to test the waters and determine I want to pursue this, and it was only $27.53. Goodwill said I have a 10-day return option, so I'm returning it this afternoon and buying a Breville Juice Fountain. It's $200, but I consider it an investment in my health and future, so it's worth it. Besides, how much have I spent on guns, ammo and other stuff I don't need? Losing weight and getting healthy, I NEED!
Need Hell, I DESERVE it!
blacklabel
07-16-2013, 11:55
That's a great way to look at it rondog. My son turned 3 in May and I realized that if I don't get my health under control, I'm not going to get to see a lot of his achievements. Being there for him and my lady is worth the cost of produce, juicer and a little inconvenience.
I didn't really "start" until Sunday, but I think I'm down about 8lbs. I wanted to try it and see if I liked it.
The Jack Lalanne juicer I got at Goodwill is crap, even though it's in great shape. Just crap to begin with. But, it's allowed me to test the waters and determine I want to pursue this, and it was only $27.53. Goodwill said I have a 10-day return option, so I'm returning it this afternoon and buying a Breville Juice Fountain. It's $200, but I consider it an investment in my health and future, so it's worth it. Besides, how much have I spent on guns, ammo and other stuff I don't need? Losing weight and getting healthy, I NEED!
Need Hell, I DESERVE it!
There you go. You need to keep better track of your weight and post your results though. It's very motivating to know where you are and where you're going to be. I'm almost addicted now to where I weight myself all day long. The weight increases as I hydrate and drink juice but it's a predictable amount so I get a good idea of where I will be in the morning. It's also motivation to not think about food. You need to post like we are all the stats regularly so that you can track progress or walls and address as they come up. It's also easier to hold yourself accountable to those numbers when they go well or not so good.
That's a great way to look at it rondog. My son turned 3 in May and I realized that if I don't get my health under control, I'm not going to get to see a lot of his achievements. Being there for him and my lady is worth the cost of produce, juicer and a little inconvenience.
I don't think I have spent too much more in food than I would have before I started this diet. We ate out a lot so I might even be losing money and I think of all the time I save driving all over town and waiting in lines and such. If you get down to gas prices and stuff like that I don't think doing this diet really has a cost factor associated with it unless you invest in a juicer or something up front. That juicer rondog got is a great juicer but a guy/gal can get started with a $60 juicer that is fantastic and even at $100 there are amazing options. In the end, you are trying to assign a price tag to your health so that's a tricky proposition.
RCCrawler
07-16-2013, 12:57
I've got a breville juicer, we've just used it to make fresh juices, not necessarily a diet. Last night I went out and got all the stuff to make a big batch of the mean green juice. Plan for today was to just do juice and water for breakfast and lunch, then have a normal dinner tonight.
By noon I had drank 32 ounces of juice, and 68 ounces of water and I was starving. Decided to go to Little Anitas and get a delicious chicken burrito.
It seemed to me like I drank a ton of liquid, how much are you guys drinking?
blacklabel
07-16-2013, 13:23
It seemed to me like I drank a ton of liquid, how much are you guys drinking?
I'm probably taking in an average of 160oz a day. 100oz of that in water and the rest in juice of course.
I've got a breville juicer, we've just used it to make fresh juices, not necessarily a diet. Last night I went out and got all the stuff to make a big batch of the mean green juice. Plan for today was to just do juice and water for breakfast and lunch, then have a normal dinner tonight.
By noon I had drank 32 ounces of juice, and 68 ounces of water and I was starving. Decided to go to Little Anitas and get a delicious chicken burrito.
It seemed to me like I drank a ton of liquid, how much are you guys drinking?
You should be drinking a ton of liquid. You also want to stay away from ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that you can chew. Even an almond or peanut. They key here is you don't want your digestive system working to process food.. even a small amount. This forces your body to burn fat for calories/energy. You give it the vitamins & nutrients it needs in the form of soluble juices so that it doesn't have to work. This is what forces the body to burn fat and after a few days those physical hunger pains will all but vanish. Every time you give it physical food though you short circuit the process and set yourself back a day or two. This is why if you're going to do it do it 100% and don't just kind of do it because it's not like other diets that are focused on how much you take in. The sooner you dive 100% in the better results you will see and the sooner you will feel better on it. That's if you really want to reap the benefits of a true juice fast. Doing what you're doing is still going to be healthier than had you not done anything but the results won't be as good and you likely will continue to be hungry almost always. I don't have physical hunger pains anymore and haven't in over a week now... nearly two. I get mental hunger in that I want to eat stuff every now and then like a craving but even those are less frequent. You will have small physical hungers but it's nowhere near what you're used to when you start to get hungry. It's just your body telling you it needs more juice.
Snowman78
07-16-2013, 20:57
I try to drink haft of my body weight in OZ of water per day (Ex if I was 200lbs I would drink 100oz of water per day)
I try to drink haft of my body weight in OZ of water per day (Ex if I was 200lbs I would drink 100oz of water per day)
I've heard that rule of thumb several places so I'd say it was pretty legit. It's also total water consumption which can be from fruit and veggies in a standard diet so not as much glasses of water if that makes sense. For this diet though I would say that it should be closer to the amount of actual water you drink if not more. Hydration is kind of a big deal.
Thought I'd mention my new Breville Juice Fountain is awesome! Runs circles around that Jack Lalanne unit. Got it at Bed Bath & Beyond, and they come with a Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead DVD. Nice bonus.
Oh, the Lalanne unit is back at the Parker Goodwill if anyone is interested.
Thought I'd mention my new Breville Juice Fountain is awesome! Runs circles around that Jack Lalanne unit. Got it at Bed Bath & Beyond, and they come with a Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead DVD. Nice bonus.
Oh, the Lalanne unit is back at the Parker Goodwill if anyone is interested.
Look at that! You were going to pay cash money for that DVD so it's like a free discount on the juicer!
I try to drink haft of my body weight in OZ of water per day (Ex if I was 200lbs I would drink 100oz of water per day)
What if you aren't good at math though?
The Thornton Walmart has the HB Big Mouth Juicer with the metal side strips as of Sunday.
A girl at work is bringing me a juicer she bought and doesn't use. I doubt it will be a good one, but it will be free...
GilpinGuy
07-16-2013, 23:46
Holy crap guys. I haven't read all 32 pages of responses here. But I have done ONE and ONLY ONE "diet" that truly works long term. It's a low carb diet. Get away from bread, rice, pasta, dognuts, potatoes, almost anything "white". Carbs are what are killing most of us as far as weight.
And when I say "get away from" I don't mean totally. Just make them a small part of your diet. I'm down 50 lbs. My doc was impressed. Blood pressure down. I don't follow the "Atkins" thing at all, but after reading his book, I actually do it without realizing it. Pretty easy really. PM if anyone wants details.
blacklabel
07-17-2013, 08:46
Day 8
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 282.7
Current Weight: 282.2
My lady picked up a couple big bottles of Bolthouse and those were the majority of what I drank yesterday. I'm going to stick to the Mean Green from here on out and keep up my water intake. I'm not down about the slower loss but I'd like to maximize this whole juice fasting thing.
Day 17 juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 268.2
Previous Weight: 269.2
Lost since yesterday: 1.0
Total Weight lost: 22.6
Day 8
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 282.7
Current Weight: 282.2
My lady picked up a couple big bottles of Bolthouse and those were the majority of what I drank yesterday. I'm going to stick to the Mean Green from here on out and keep up my water intake. I'm not down about the slower loss but I'd like to maximize this whole juice fasting thing.
The more I go back and forth between fresh veggie & Bolthouse I think I'm coming to the conclusion that it doesn't really matter. I'm going to try to stick a little bit closer to the 80/20 veggie/fruit guideline and that will be from both fresh and store-bought. I also discovered the other day that I like the Naked Juice Mango flavor too so give it a try.
Holy crap guys. I haven't read all 32 pages of responses here. But I have done ONE and ONLY ONE "diet" that truly works long term. It's a low carb diet. Get away from bread, rice, pasta, dognuts, potatoes, almost anything "white". Carbs are what are killing most of us as far as weight.
And when I say "get away from" I don't mean totally. Just make them a small part of your diet. I'm down 50 lbs. My doc was impressed. Blood pressure down. I don't follow the "Atkins" thing at all, but after reading his book, I actually do it without realizing it. Pretty easy really. PM if anyone wants details.
I think what most of us want to do is drop as much as we can as quickly and safely as possible, and then roll over to eating better. At least that's my plan. Changing to a healthy diet and only losing 1-2 lbs./week would only discourage me. I can suffer for a couple months if it'll give me a big headstart.
USAFGopherMike
07-17-2013, 12:24
I hope you guys took "before" pictures to compare with your "after" shots. Would probably make a good post at some point for the non-believers. If not, take some now.
blacklabel
07-17-2013, 13:01
I hope you guys took "before" pictures to compare with your "after" shots. Would probably make a good post at some point for the non-believers. If not, take some now.
I've got plenty of fat pictures of me. I've been between 265 and 315 for about 8 years now. I've been able to cut 40lbs off with diet and exercise over a 2 month period a couple of times but put it right back on within 8 months.
I'm hoping that juicing can help me break that 265 barrier and then build the right habits. I've always known what to do, the will power has just never been there longer than 2 or 3 months.
I think what most of us want to do is drop as much as we can as quickly and safely as possible, and then roll over to eating better. At least that's my plan. Changing to a healthy diet and only losing 1-2 lbs./week would only discourage me. I can suffer for a couple months if it'll give me a big headstart.
That's my plan.
I hope you guys took "before" pictures to compare with your "after" shots. Would probably make a good post at some point for the non-believers. If not, take some now.
This is the biggest regret I have because I was going to start a video blog on day 1 and update daily and put it all on YouTube. I put it off for a few days and before you knew it I was down quite a bit of weight. Not sure that doing it now will be as dramatic and as such I keep decided to just leave the old me in the past.
I've got plenty of fat pictures of me. I've been between 265 and 315 for about 8 years now. I've been able to cut 40lbs off with diet and exercise over a 2 month period a couple of times but put it right back on within 8 months.
I'm hoping that juicing can help me break that 265 barrier and then build the right habits. I've always known what to do, the will power has just never been there longer than 2 or 3 months.
Same here. All of our vacation pictures and all the pictures of me for the past 8yrs or so are fat so if I wanted to see that I have plenty of reminders hanging on the wall. I still kinda wish I would have documented it better I guess.
USAFGopherMike
07-17-2013, 13:55
This is the biggest regret I have because I was going to start a video blog on day 1 and update daily and put it all on YouTube. .
That would have been cool. A picture says a thousand words. A blog of a guy shedding 60 lbs inspires a thousand people.
That would have been cool. A picture says a thousand words. A blog of a guy shedding 60 lbs inspires a thousand people.
Yeah, that's kind of what got me going after all. I was all set to start doing YouTube videos but wasn't able to start right away and then I just kept feeling like it wouldn't have the same impact once I've already lost 20lbs.
I do good at the back side of cameras, but I try to stay away from the front side of 'em. And I really don't want any underwear side views out on the 'net. Moobs, ya know. Got some.
Best I can do for ya, and this was a couple years ago.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/Brett%20and%20Leslies%20wedding/DSC00567.jpg
spittoon
07-17-2013, 17:26
does barley, hopps juice count
This is probably the most recent picture of me at the rally. This picture probably makes me look better than I am as I generally look much fatter:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5aRubAqzWis/Udtvk8oCyXI/AAAAAAAAG2M/0aRM1nz6F_U/s1024/IMAG1373_1.jpg
How much juice do you guys make per batch? I'm averaging about a quart, and it can be a chore to drink that much at one sitting.
How much juice do you guys make per batch? I'm averaging about a quart, and it can be a chore to drink that much at one sitting.
The past couple of days I'll have some Bolthouse or Naked juices to start my day. It varies too. I get one out of the fridge that sounds good and sometimes I'll take a drink or two before I decide I want something else. Then I'll put it back, get another and drink for a while off and on. Then later I'll whip up that recipe I posted which makes about two cups (not an actual measurement, just physical cups) of juice. While I drink that I'll make the recipe I posted of the Mean Green juice and that will make a few cups (also not a measurement) that usually just barely fits into this water bottle I have. I screw the lid on tight and put it in the fridge while I finish the first one I made. Then, after that's gone and while later when I start feeling hungry I bust out the Mean Green juice and usually finish it off. Sometimes I have some left the next morning. Don't force yourself to drink juice... just drink when you're hungry. Your body will want more some days and less on others so it's tough to say.. you should have 54oz of juice because who knows.
blacklabel
07-18-2013, 07:53
Day 9
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 282.2
Current Weight: 281.7
Another half pound day. I'm just going to keep juicing and drinking water like a fish and see what happens. I'd like to see better results but as long as I'm losing weight I'm not going to worry about it.
Day 5
Starting Weight: 323
Current Weight: 313
Down 10
I'll post stats later on, but as just an FYI I've tried out a few weight tracking apps for Android and the best one so far that's free and minimally intrusive with permissions is Weight Tracker ++ .
Apps??? What's wrong with pencil and paper, date and weight?
Damn Rondog, pencil and paper is OLD SCHOOL! Everything has to be done on an app these days!
blacklabel
07-18-2013, 10:13
I've been using Weighty Lite on Android. It doesn't do much outside of track my weight but that's all I need.
Apps??? What's wrong with pencil and paper, date and weight?
What's a pencil and paper?
Bah! Geeks.....hang a calendar on the wall near the scale and write your weight down every morning. There, it's "tracked".
Day 18 juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 267.2
Previous Weight: 268.2
Lost since yesterday: 1.0
Total Weight lost: 23.6
This is probably the most recent picture of me at the rally. This picture probably makes me look better than I am as I generally look much fatter:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5aRubAqzWis/Udtvk8oCyXI/AAAAAAAAG2M/0aRM1nz6F_U/s1024/IMAG1373_1.jpg
In addition to this before I found another picture I took when the Heat won the finals and then another one that I took today to send to my buddy. This probably illustrates the weight loss a little bit better.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-VffXqcPR15A/UehCPhoSsSI/AAAAAAAAG4k/d8zue3gf3P0/s480/IMAG1301_1.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q5UB8JiT5og/UehCTbSONMI/AAAAAAAAG4s/IVIwxDRRWvM/s512/IMAG1426_1.jpg
Lesson for the day: You can make your wife a bacon cheeseburger with Texas garlic toast on the side, but don't be stupid enough to watch her eat it.
Lesson for the day: You can make your wife a bacon cheeseburger with Texas garlic toast on the side, but don't be stupid enough to watch her eat it.
Haha... I can only imagine. Were you able to resist?
Haha... I can only imagine. Were you able to resist?
I did resist and pounded some water, then had some juice. I must have looked exactly like the dogs during dinner time for a while though.
I did resist and pounded some water, then had some juice. I must have looked exactly like the dogs during dinner time for a while though.
Haha.. I share your pain brother. Stay strong. In the end it will all be worth it.
I can relate. Grilling those pork chops and ribs Sunday was torture.
blacklabel
07-19-2013, 10:01
Day 10
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 281.7
Current Weight: 280.4
I didn't do much different but lost 1.3 pounds. I'm excited to see the 270s hopefully tomorrow. The family and I are going camping tomorrow so we bought a bunch of Bolthouse juice to cover us. Should be a good time.
Rooskibar03
07-19-2013, 10:04
Not doing a juice diet but I did start back up on no carb/sugar this week as a result of this thread. External influence is a good motivator for me so as long as no one minds if like to play along.
Day 19 juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 267.2
Previous Weight: 267.4
Lost since yesterday: +0.2 :-(
Total Weight lost: 23.4
Days like this make it tough to get motivated to drink nothing but juice. lol Those big weight loss days near the beginning are quickly averaging out to a pound a day if I keep having days of no loss or even gaining like this.
Day 10
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 281.7
Current Weight: 280.4
I didn't do much different but lost 1.3 pounds. I'm excited to see the 270s hopefully tomorrow. The family and I are going camping tomorrow so we bought a bunch of Bolthouse juice to cover us. Should be a good time.
Yeah man, those milestone make it all worth while. I'm still a ways away from the 250's (and going the wrong direction currently) but as soon as I hit the lower 260's I'll start getting excited about that again.
Not doing a juice diet but I did start back up on no carb/sugar this week as a result of this thread. External influence is a good motivator for me so as long as no one minds if like to play along.
Good to hear man. I hope more people choose a healthier lifestyle, whatever that may be, and if this thread is a motivating factor towards that than that's awesome. That's the whole reason I started it and am airing my personal details after all.
Day 6
Starting Weight: 323
Current Weight: 311
Down 12
Good job rondog. Pretty soon you'll be in the 200's and that will be a HUGE milestone!
day 11
Day 1 383.5
Today 358.8
loss 24.7
day 11
Day 1 383.5
Today 358.8
loss 24.7
Wow. Good job
Anybody else having a wierd taste in their mouth? Kinda salty and foamy, and water won't wash it out. Seems I've heard somewhere that losing weight can give you bad breath and b.o. too. Yuck.
blacklabel
07-19-2013, 17:52
Anybody else having a wierd taste in their mouth? Kinda salty and foamy, and water won't wash it out. Seems I've heard somewhere that losing weight can give you bad breath and b.o. too. Yuck.
I had a white furry tongue for 4 or 5 days and I've noticed that I feel like I need to brush a lot more often.
day 11
Day 1 383.5
Today 358.8
loss 24.7
Damn, that's awesome!
Rooskibar03
07-19-2013, 18:06
Good to hear man. I hope more people choose a healthier lifestyle, whatever that may be, and if this thread is a motivating factor towards that than that's awesome. That's the whole reason I started it and am airing my personal details after all.
Well then here we go
Start day Monday 221.4.
As of this AM 216.2.
Goal is sub 200.
I was at 247 in Feb. Got down to 214 by May and feel off wagon and crept back up.
-at what point does the desire for solid food subside....if ever?
Rooskibar03
07-19-2013, 18:28
-at what point does the desire for solid food subside....if ever?
That right there is why I know I'd personally struggle with the juice diet.
I do it a little different. I juice for break and lunch and have a salad with meat for dinner ie ham cubes, chicken chunks etc nothing big but solid. Went straight Juice on Tues and have not had the cravings I guess because I weaned off solids.
-at what point does the desire for solid food subside....if ever?
Don't know that it will, but this isn't a forever thing. Just a "fast" to knock off as much as possible in a couple of months and adjust to not eating solid stuff, so that you can "start over" with a different mindset about what solid food to eat. At least that's MY approach and attitude.
Trust me, I'm an eatin' sumbitch. There's not many things that I WON'T eat. But while I'm stuffing it in my yap I'll tell myself how bad and unhealthy it is for me, yet still eat it. My tastebuds and stomach work great. I'm doing this to feel better, lose weight, and change my attitude about fatty meats, wheat & flour products, cereals, ice cream & dairy/cheeses, candy, sugars of all kinds, etc.
I'm finding that if I get hungry and start craving, a load of juice and some water will calm it down. Do I like it? Not particularly. Is it a PITA? Yes. But I'm on Day 6 and down 12 pounds?! That's unheard of! That gives me the incentive to keep going and see what's next, just how far I can go, and how much I can lose. I can already tell/ feel a difference, and I think I'm still just detoxing.
What pushed me into this was I blew out my favorite shorts, wore 'em out until they ripped. I had a new pair just like them in reserve, same size. But they were just a tad smaller, and they wouldn't fit. I went to Penny's for a size larger, and I was at the max size they carry, corporate-wide. No bigger than what I already couldn't fit into. I was faced with spending bug bucks at Omar The Tentmakers' just for a pair of fucking shorts.
Then Jer started this thread, I watched FS&ND, found a juicer at Goodwill, and here I are. Oh, the shorts fit fine now!
Then Jer started this thread, I watched FS&ND, found a juicer at Goodwill, and here I are.
Jer started this thread about a week prior to my wife (who is an outstanding cook) left town for a month. It might prove too difficult with her kitchen skills but she's gone and I'm up for a challenge so I jumped on the bandwagon. However..... those containers of cashews & almonds on the shelf, my frequent daily snack, sure look better than they ever did before, hence my question about the craving for solid food, and if that ever retreats.
I've been keeping the produce stockers at Costco and Sprouts rather busy. A month on liquid....this should prove interesting.
Jer started this thread about a week prior to my wife (who is an outstanding cook) left town for a month. It might prove too difficult with her kitchen skills but she's gone and I'm up for a challenge so I jumped on the bandwagon. However..... those containers of cashews & almonds on the shelf, my frequent daily snack, sure look better than they ever did before, hence my question about the craving for solid food, and if that ever retreats.
I've been keeping the produce stockers at Costco and Sprouts rather busy. A month on liquid....this should prove interesting.
Just think of the money you'll save on toilet paper.....
Just think of the money you'll save on toilet paper.....
There's no way that savings will come remotely close to my current vege expenditures!
Anybody else having a wierd taste in their mouth? Kinda salty and foamy, and water won't wash it out. Seems I've heard somewhere that losing weight can give you bad breath and b.o. too. Yuck.
Nope, but bad breath can be caused by a dry mouth. I was a bit light headed at end of the first day and up until this afternoon, I've kinda had what's like a low grade hangover feeling. I also stopped caffeine intake, and that might be part of it. Feel just fine now. That strawberry-banana one from Bolthouse Farms is now my favorite both for the taste and because it seems more filling than the others.
FYI I don't intend to do this long term like some of you other folks. Just a week or two to kick start things before heading back into the gym for old-fashioned exercise (except running for now of course).
-at what point does the desire for solid food subside....if ever?
It didn't for me. After a month and a half, I figured I was done, and went back to food again. I could have killed someone...... However, it's been a long time since I've done juicing, a year and 7 months ago, and I have only put on 20 of the +50 I lost (I don't exercise either). I gained it all the last month of school (April), I'm a stress eater... Haven't lost a pound, but haven't gained anything since either. I went from 307, to 250 - 252, back up to 270, and have just been hovering. I literally put on all 20 in April... I ate like a pig though, all fast food.... Stress eating was bad that month.
Actually, just checked before posting this, I'm at 268 right now, and just got back from dinner and a movie with friends.....
-at what point does the desire for solid food subside....if ever?
Yes, it does. The first few days are the worst. After that it gets better and you really only have to deal with the mental hunger which is to say you will crave foods but it's all mental.
That right there is why I know I'd personally struggle with the juice diet.
It's a lot easier than I thought it would be.
I do it a little different. I juice for break and lunch and have a salad with meat for dinner ie ham cubes, chicken chunks etc nothing big but solid. Went straight Juice on Tues and have not had the cravings I guess because I weaned off solids.
That's good if this is working for you but it's technically not a juice fast. It's more of a low calorie diet using juice to replace some meals. In order to do a proper juice fast you can't take in ANYTHING but juice and water. You don't want to put anything in your digestive system at all and after some time your body starts converting fat to ketones for energy to supplant the lost calories from eating. Doing what you're doing might work alright at first but what will likely happen is that body will hit starvation mode and start storing even more of the small meals that you do put in your body. It's a delicate balance and the best and easiest way is to just do a full on juice fast if you're going to drink that much juice. The added food in your system will also make the times when you don't have food in your system worse since you will have physical hunger pretty much all the time.
Then Jer started this thread, I watched FS&ND, found a juicer at Goodwill, and here I are. Oh, the shorts fit fine now!
Awesome!
Jer started this thread about a week prior to my wife (who is an outstanding cook) left town for a month. It might prove too difficult with her kitchen skills but she's gone and I'm up for a challenge so I jumped on the bandwagon. However..... those containers of cashews & almonds on the shelf, my frequent daily snack, sure look better than they ever did before, hence my question about the craving for solid food, and if that ever retreats.
I've been keeping the produce stockers at Costco and Sprouts rather busy. A month on liquid....this should prove interesting.
That might be all you need to kick start things to get her to give you a hand whenever she gets back. Could even be something she might want to do and it might change your eating habits overall moving forward. All these things would be good things but what you need is a chance to try it out which it sounds like you've got so best of luck.
Just think of the money you'll save on toilet paper.....
Dude, you gotta get a bidet add-on for your toilet! I don't use toilet paper anymore and it's glorious! Haha... I guess that's a topic for another thread though.
There's no way that savings will come remotely close to my current vege expenditures!
I think that I'm pretty close to breaking even and might even be saving some money over eating food since I ate out a fair amount before I started. You also have to account for the money you'll save on LOTS of things just through living a healthier lifestyle. Heart procedures are spendy.
Nope, but bad breath can be caused by a dry mouth. I was a bit light headed at end of the first day and up until this afternoon, I've kinda had what's like a low grade hangover feeling. I also stopped caffeine intake, and that might be part of it. Feel just fine now. That strawberry-banana one from Bolthouse Farms is now my favorite both for the taste and because it seems more filling than the others.
FYI I don't intend to do this long term like some of you other folks. Just a week or two to kick start things before heading back into the gym for old-fashioned exercise (except running for now of course).
A lot of the symptoms I read people having on a juice fast can be attributed to dehydration of various levels. Drink tons of water and you'll probably see most of these go away. I haven't had any symptoms that I see people having myself.
It didn't for me. After a month and a half, I figured I was done, and went back to food again. I could have killed someone...... However, it's been a long time since I've done juicing, a year and 7 months ago, and I have only put on 20 of the +50 I lost (I don't exercise either). I gained it all the last month of school (April), I'm a stress eater... Haven't lost a pound, but haven't gained anything since either. I went from 307, to 250 - 252, back up to 270, and have just been hovering. I literally put on all 20 in April... I ate like a pig though, all fast food.... Stress eating was bad that month.
Actually, just checked before posting this, I'm at 268 right now, and just got back from dinner and a movie with friends.....
Sounds like someone is due for another juice diet!
That's good if this is working for you but it's technically not a juice fast. It's more of a low calorie diet using juice to replace some meals. In order to do a proper juice fast you can't take in ANYTHING but juice and water. You don't want to put anything in your digestive system at all and after some time your body starts converting fat to ketones for energy to supplant the lost calories from eating. Doing what you're doing might work alright at first but what will likely happen is that body will hit starvation mode and start storing even more of the small meals that you do put in your body. It's a delicate balance and the best and easiest way is to just do a full on juice fast if you're going to drink that much juice. The added food in your system will also make the times when you don't have food in your system worse since you will have physical hunger pretty much all the time
You missed the part where I said I went straight juice on Tuesday and still no cravings.
Jer, you keep saying that drinking just juice is not putting anything into your digestive system, and it's not true. Food goes into your stomach where it is broken down to be processed in your intestines. Solid food or not, it all ends up in your intestines for processing, and in more or less the same form. Even if you give yourself an ennema, your digestive system is still working to absorb what your body needs, and discard what it doesn't.
It sounds like you are worried that the caloric intake of ANY solid food will break some threshold and put your body into storing mode. That may be true, but it is incorrect to say that you are not using your digestive system. That would be more for an intravenious diet.
Day 19 juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 267.4
Previous Weight: 267.4
Lost since yesterday: 0.0 :-(
Total Weight lost: 23.4
To say I'm frustrated by today's weigh-in would be an understatement. Especially considering I gained 0.2lbs yesterday. This made me decide to take a look at my progress that I've been tracking and I've lost only 3.0lbs this calendar week. A far cry from the pace I was on when I started which was over 10lbs per week. While I accepted the fact that this pace wouldn't continue I didn't expect it to drop off to nearly nothing. I mean, less than a half a pound per day is hardly worth denying myself food for and I'm relatively sure that introducing healthy foods in reasonable portions could attain this progress and plus I would be more able to work in exercise here and there as time presents itself. In short, I'm 10 days short of the 30 day mark and am considering breaking the fast. I may wait a few more days to see what happens but I'm not confident I'll just snap back to where I was or even close to it. I had hoped to lose around a pound per day based on the research I did and what other people in a similar situation lost. I started off really strong and since then things have really fizzled for me. I mean at this pace I would lose about ten pounds next month... hardly worth the effort. The last time this was frustrating and I wasn't going to overreact but I really haven't seen too much since then so this is indicating more of a trend than a temporary anomaly. I tried days of nothing but veggie juicing and that didn't help. I tried days of just fruit juicing and that didn't help. I tried upping my water intake and that didn't seem to help either. I'm at a loss and am currently considering if I'm going to see this through the full 60 days, cut it to 30 days or just kill it now. I don't want to give up but if I'm not getting anywhere near the progress I had expected I don't necessarily feel like I'm giving up. It has been a week after all. I just don't know at this point.
Patience, grasshopper. And fart carefully.
You missed the part where I said I went straight juice on Tuesday and still no cravings.
I did miss that, sorry. Well, I read it earlier in the day and I read the entire thing but didn't get a chance to respond. By the time I got back I think I read the first sentence to remind myself and wanted to make sure that people understood that on a juice fast you can't mix food in here and there.
Jer, you keep saying that drinking just juice is not putting anything into your digestive system, and it's not true. Food goes into your stomach where it is broken down to be processed in your intestines. Solid food or not, it all ends up in your intestines for processing, and in more or less the same form. Even if you give yourself an ennema, your digestive system is still working to absorb what your body needs, and discard what it doesn't.
It sounds like you are worried that the caloric intake of ANY solid food will break some threshold and put your body into storing mode. That may be true, but it is incorrect to say that you are not using your digestive system. That would be more for an intravenious diet.
For the purpose of this juice fast and this conversation there is a difference and it's a big difference. I'm just trying to keep the conversation informative but not too scientific or things could get boring & difficult to follow quickly. I get what you're saying but it's a different kind of digestion entirely since the juice is already in liquid form and easily assimilated by the body. In other words, as close to IV nutrients as you can get w/o the needle and nobody wants to do an IV fast diet. [Coffee]
Patience, grasshopper. And fart carefully.
Haha... I've actually been fine in that respect the whole time. I do have lots of patience but if I'm not going to be making progress it's not a question of patience. I mean, you can sit and watch the grass grow and be as patient as you want but it's not going to cut itself just based on your level of patience I guess is the point I'm trying to make. I can be patient all day long... hell even for another month at something near a pound per day but closer to 1/4lb per day doesn't seem like it's worth it IMO.
I bet you wouldn't say that 10 lbs in a month isn't good enough for you if you actually got there. That'd bring your total to over 30lbs down. Loosing weight is loosing weight. If you stop your diet, you'll likely stop your weight loss. Then in another month when you've gained half of your current losses back, you'll really be kicking yourself when you could have been 30 down instead of only 10 down.
Why don't you have your wife record your results every day for the next week while you close your eyes. Then you can stress out about it less. Stress isn't going to help anything.
hell even for another month at something near a pound per day but closer to 1/4lb per day doesn't seem like it's worth it IMO.
The original reason for Juice fasting, was not for weight loss. It was to heal. It was to give your body the best chance at healing itself. The lack of intake of calories just cuts weight. So, does it work as a great weight loss thing? Ya, without a doubt it does, but it is a way of healing first and foremost. Unless you do this for long enough for your body to "reset" itself, you will gain the weight back fast as your metabolism will not change.
I bet you wouldn't say that 10 lbs in a month isn't good enough for you if you actually got there. That'd bring your total to over 30lbs down. Loosing weight is loosing weight. If you stop your diet, you'll likely stop your weight loss. Then in another month when you've gained half of your current losses back, you'll really be kicking yourself when you could have been 30 down instead of only 10 down.
Why don't you have your wife record your results every day for the next week while you close your eyes. Then you can stress out about it less. Stress isn't going to help anything.
I ate a carrot... fast over.
I bet you wouldn't say that 10 lbs in a month isn't good enough for you if you actually got there. That'd bring your total to over 30lbs down. Loosing weight is loosing weight. If you stop your diet, you'll likely stop your weight loss. Then in another month when you've gained half of your current losses back, you'll really be kicking yourself when you could have been 30 down instead of only 10 down.
Why don't you have your wife record your results every day for the next week while you close your eyes. Then you can stress out about it less. Stress isn't going to help anything.
If I was dieting and exercising and still eating I would be happy with 10lbs in a month. But I'm not. I'm drinking juice and water so the expectations are different. The idea was to use this to drop a bunch of weight and rid myself of the desire for shitty food and lots of it. I've done that. I lost nearly 25lbs in a couple of weeks and the way I used to eat doesn't even sound good to me at all. I've gained the ability to resist the desire to stuff myself of shit and those are what I wanted to accomplish. The plan was to get healthier and lose a big chunk of fat and then continue losing at a slower pace through healthy eating and working out. I never had a deadline when I started, I just wanted to try it out and see how it worked. I didn't have any of the side effects others had talked about and I was losing weight so I figured why not... I'll do the 60 days I've seen others do. Well, being as the deadline was never set in stone I don't see it as a failure so much as what I accomplished and think I can take it from here now. Most of the people do like a week or two and now I can see why. There's nothing to say that I couldn't do it again someday and if I did I would likely just plan for 2 weeks. I just feel like it's gotten to a point where I think I can achieve the same progress through healthier eating and lifestyle. This also allows me the opportunity to exercise when the opportunity presents itself. While on the fast I was limiting my exercise because when I did workout it REALLY took it out of me (shortness of breath and everything) plus those days my weight loss was non-existent. I think that my body is telling me that it's time to end the fast and start introducing healthy foods and try to ramp my metabolism up.
The original reason for Juice fasting, was not for weight loss. It was to heal. It was to give your body the best chance at healing itself. The lack of intake of calories just cuts weight. So, does it work as a great weight loss thing? Ya, without a doubt it does, but it is a way of healing first and foremost. Unless you do this for long enough for your body to "reset" itself, you will gain the weight back fast as your metabolism will not change.
For me it was weight loss and getting away from food. I guess that could be healing but I don't really see all the cleanse stuff of juice fasting. I mean, if I cleansed somehow then that's an added bonus but I really just needed to get away from my poor eating habits and for me this was the easiest way. I'm giving up pop, dairy, breads and all sorts of junk I used to eat. On top of that the food that I DO eat will be smaller portions and healthier options whenever possible. Couple that with more fruit & vegetable consumption and even juicing to replace meals from time to time and I don't see how I can help to be healthier. Worst case scenario I can't control my eating and start to head down that path again and I just do a juice fast again, possibly longer until I get it right. As of right now I really feel like I've got a different outlook and for me just doing something about it to start this process was half the battle.
Its not over just a speed bump along the way
JM Ver. 2.0
07-20-2013, 17:49
This is my new juice diet....
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/21/aryge7ep.jpg
Sent from my teepee using smoke signals.
Its not over just a speed bump along the way
No, the juice fast is over. It's just the beginning of my healthier lifestyle though. It was never going to be permanent.
Cut out all wheat and youll see a difference as well. Or should I say stay away from it..
Cut out all wheat and youll see a difference as well. Or should I say stay away from it..
Not just wheat. Like I said I'm cutting out most all grains among many other things to include dairy & most sugars since it's difficult to cut out all. No more pop though that's for sure.
Rooskibar03
07-20-2013, 19:49
This is my new juice diet....
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/21/aryge7ep.jpg
Sent from my teepee using smoke signals.
Never personally saw a benefit from that stuff. Didn't get my energy up and for me drinking a bunch of liquid before I work out, which is always early morning after I wake up, made me feel all bloated.
Not sure how this conforms to conventional 'juice diet' wisdom but I added cayenne pepper to my juice today and what a world of difference - this is actually pretty good stuff now! (still all the celery/carrots/cucumbers/peppers/tomatoes/kale, but now with enough zing to make it something to look forward to....instead of dread).
Not sure how this conforms to conventional 'juice diet' wisdom but I added cayenne pepper to my juice today and what a world of difference - this is actually pretty good stuff now! (still all the celery/carrots/cucumbers/peppers/tomatoes/kale, but now with enough zing to make it something to look forward to....instead of dread).
I'm not aware of cayenne pepper causing issues w/a juice fast so if it makes it better for you I say go for it. I like spicy stuff to so me & Serrano peppers were good friends the last couple weeks.
Well, I'm gonna roll with this juice thing for awhile, I think. I've done well so far, and my juicer cost too much to quit. There's a lot of recipes out there to try, and I've made some good experiments. I have "cheated" a couple times when my body demanded something else, but no crap. Nothing like I used to do! Only been a week.
JM Ver. 2.0
07-20-2013, 21:24
Never personally saw a benefit from that stuff. Didn't get my energy up and for me drinking a bunch of liquid before I work out, which is always early morning after I wake up, made me feel all bloated.
$12 each... So $25ish after tax... Can't bitch.
Well, I'm gonna roll with this juice thing for awhile, I think. I've done well so far, and my juicer cost too much to quit. There's a lot of recipes out there to try, and I've made some good experiments. I have "cheated" a couple times when my body demanded something else, but no crap. Nothing like I used to do! Only been a week.
As long as it's working for you do it man. I didn't cheat once since July 1st when I started. Nothing but juice & water & it started off great for me then kind of fizzled. If I was still doing alright I woulda stuck with it. No reason IMO.
JM Ver. 2.0
07-20-2013, 22:01
As long as it's working for you do it man. I didn't cheat once since July 1st when I started. Nothing but juice & water & it started off great for me then kind of fizzled. If I was still doing alright I woulda stuck with it. No reason IMO.
So what you're saying is... Your body adapted to the change and began to stop reacting to it?
Let me show you my surprised face......
USAFGopherMike
07-20-2013, 22:44
Keep the updates coming. They're great. I could see a difference in your face from that terminator pic. Just a thought: the wife uses a "fitbit" which tracks her steps. She shoots for a daily goal and just tries to make that goal each day, then gets really excited when she beats it. Even if you start eating again, that's not bad. Your results are great and you helped others take the first step. Do you have a dog? Maybe take him for a walk twice a day. Or go for a walk after dinner every night. Every little bit helps. I'm not saying start running or pumping iron at the gym, but an increase in activity will boost your metabolism and that will help your body want to burn more. Got a friend nearby who likes guns? Go for a walk every day and talk about shooting or something else. All the talking will keep your mind off the fact that you're going for a walk. My .02.
PS - I started drinking two glasses of bolthouse juice every day.
Keep the updates coming. They're great. I could see a difference in your face from that terminator pic. Just a thought: the wife uses a "fitbit" which tracks her steps. She shoots for a daily goal and just tries to make that goal each day, then gets really excited when she beats it. Even if you start eating again, that's not bad. Your results are great and you helped others take the first step. Do you have a dog? Maybe take him for a walk twice a day. Or go for a walk after dinner every night. Every little bit helps. I'm not saying start running or pumping iron at the gym, but an increase in activity will boost your metabolism and that will help your body want to burn more. Got a friend nearby who likes guns? Go for a walk every day and talk about shooting or something else. All the talking will keep your mind off the fact that you're going for a walk. My .02.
PS - I started drinking two glasses of bolthouse juice every day.
Thanks for the tips man. I've got two little dogs and I plan to walk them even more but the problem becomes in a couple of months when the temps drop down. Our dogs are Italian Greyhounds so they don't have any fat or hair to keep them warm. Anything below about 70 deg outside to them is cold so needless to say they don't go outside at all about 4 or 5 months out of the year. But I get what you're saying and I will do my best to work in exercise whenever possible. I'm happy that this was the motivating factor for me to start getting healthier and I'm glad that my ranting out loud convinced others to take steps too. If more people took that first step we'd be healthier as a nation. Along those lines I will probably still update from time to time and will remain somewhat active to help others who have questions or concerns that I may know the answer to.
Funny, I'm starting to crave cooked veggie dishes.....
Funny, I'm starting to crave cooked veggie dishes.....
Or even just raw veggies. I can't tell how good eating a whole raw carrot was today. Those are changes that I'm hoping are long term as they'll make eating healthy much easier. Time will tell I suppose.
So what you're saying is... Your body adapted to the change and began to stop reacting to it?
Let me show you my surprised face......
This is something my friends and I talked about... Your body can't stop doing what it does, I.E. it just can't stop using calories. He'd be dead at that point... So, either he's actually gaining something to equal the balance of the fat loss, or he's putting something in, that is stopping the loss. This fast, makes your body more efficient (hence why it was originally come up with to battle terminal diseases, with an amazingly high cure factor). I never plateaued. My friends never did either. I will have to check, but I'm sure one got to over 65lbs in a couple months. Now, and I can't say that I have tested it, or know of someone who has either, but if your body is in this hyper healthy mode, wouldn't you build muscle faster, and easier? I know that the fast let my body take care of an injury of mine that "supposedly" needed surgery to fix. So, what else could this do?
On my next go around, I'm going to try to test this. I'm going to workout, and see what happens on the weeks that I do it, and the weeks that I don't.
Also, no doctor can legally prescribe this fast, it's illegal for them to do so says the FDA. They can do variations of it, but no the actual fast. < I'm posting that last part because I've now heard back from the doctors that I have asked, that weren't related to me. So, if none have prescribed it the correct way, how can they say anything about it? BS
GilpinGuy
07-21-2013, 02:48
Yeah man! Keep it up. I've been doing the "low carb" thing for a year and a half and it kicks ass (down 50 lbs.). I don't even crave that shit much anymore. When I do eat a carb heavy meal, I feel like total shit.
Anyway, keep going bro!
Day 19 juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 267.4
Previous Weight: 267.4
Lost since yesterday: 0.0 :-(
Total Weight lost: 23.4
To say I'm frustrated by today's weigh-in would be an understatement. Especially considering I gained 0.2lbs yesterday. This made me decide to take a look at my progress that I've been tracking and I've lost only 3.0lbs this calendar week. A far cry from the pace I was on when I started which was over 10lbs per week. While I accepted the fact that this pace wouldn't continue I didn't expect it to drop off to nearly nothing. I mean, less than a half a pound per day is hardly worth denying myself food for and I'm relatively sure that introducing healthy foods in reasonable portions could attain this progress and plus I would be more able to work in exercise here and there as time presents itself. In short, I'm 10 days short of the 30 day mark and am considering breaking the fast. I may wait a few more days to see what happens but I'm not confident I'll just snap back to where I was or even close to it. I had hoped to lose around a pound per day based on the research I did and what other people in a similar situation lost. I started off really strong and since then things have really fizzled for me. I mean at this pace I would lose about ten pounds next month... hardly worth the effort. The last time this was frustrating and I wasn't going to overreact but I really haven't seen too much since then so this is indicating more of a trend than a temporary anomaly. I tried days of nothing but veggie juicing and that didn't help. I tried days of just fruit juicing and that didn't help. I tried upping my water intake and that didn't seem to help either. I'm at a loss and am currently considering if I'm going to see this through the full 60 days, cut it to 30 days or just kill it now. I don't want to give up but if I'm not getting anywhere near the progress I had expected I don't necessarily feel like I'm giving up. It has been a week after all. I just don't know at this point.
I think these kinds of blips will happen in any kind of diet or exercise routine and if you had stuck it out a bit your progress would have continued. On the other hand, a) a juice only diet for 2 months doesn't make much sense to me (hence why I don't plan to do it more than 2 weeks max) and b) you've accomplished a lot in a short time -- 23.4 lbs isn't chump change --and it's a good start for both your body and mind in terms of getting some progress and positive reinforcement that it can be done. So I don't hold it against you for wanting to get some solid food down at this point, especially as a juice-only diet isn't the only way to accomplish your goal. It sounds like part of your goal was to reset your brain and body for your eating habits in general and looks like you reached that point, so as long as you don't suddenly reverse course into the old habits, you will still be making good progress, albeit maybe not as fast as before. Good work and keep at it.
So here's where I'm at on the 7th day:
Starting weight: 243.6
Current weight: 234.4
Total weight lost: 9.2
I'm not sure how this little juice fast will play out this week. I still have a few days worth of juice so I may try to run with it through next Sunday. However, I may have to travel for work this week and I'm not going to stress about finding juice if that's the case.
I think these kinds of blips will happen in any kind of diet or exercise routine and if you had stuck it out a bit your progress would have continued. On the other hand, a) a juice only diet for 2 months doesn't make much sense to me (hence why I don't plan to do it more than 2 weeks max) and b) you've accomplished a lot in a short time -- 23.4 lbs isn't chump change --and it's a good start for both your body and mind in terms of getting some progress and positive reinforcement that it can be done. So I don't hold it against you for wanting to get some solid food down at this point, especially as a juice-only diet isn't the only way to accomplish your goal. It sounds like part of your goal was to reset your brain and body for your eating habits in general and looks like you reached that point, so as long as you don't suddenly reverse course into the old habits, you will still be making good progress, albeit maybe not as fast as before. Good work and keep at it.
Thanks man. I feel like I fell short of the 60lb goal but I was going to fall short of that goal on the fast anyway so while it's bitter sweet I have to try to focus on what I did accomplish.
Day 8
Starting Weight: 323
Current Weight: 308
Down 15
How long has it been since you've been under 300 Ron? Looks like your cruising straight toward a pretty big milestone!
How long has it been since you've been under 300 Ron? Looks like your cruising straight toward a pretty big milestone!
I couldn't even tell ya. Probably long before I found this place and started hanging around being a pest.
blacklabel
07-21-2013, 12:16
Day 13
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 280.4
Current Weight: 278.1
Camping without beer or hotdogs or steaks or smores sucks but we stuck to it and I lost a couple pounds from Saturday morning to this afternoon.
Batteriesnare
07-21-2013, 12:31
Started on all juice yesterday after a week of replacing breakfast and lunch with juice and eating a reasonable supper. I've also take the Bolthouse approach to start, but am curious the effects with so much sugar in there. Trying to decide on a juicer to make my own, but will stick with the store bought stuff 'til then. I will say that I feel much better than usual, and have kicked energy drinks and coke entirely for over a week, which is unheard of for me. I'll try to get to the gym to get a "starting weight" but so far I'm pretty excited.
Started on all juice yesterday after a week of replacing breakfast and lunch with juice and eating a reasonable supper. I've also take the Bolthouse approach to start, but am curious the effects with so much sugar in there. Trying to decide on a juicer to make my own, but will stick with the store bought stuff 'til then. I will say that I feel much better than usual, and have kicked energy drinks and coke entirely for over a week, which is unheard of for me. I'll try to get to the gym to get a "starting weight" but so far I'm pretty excited.
The sugar was a concern for me too, but in the end I figured it would be OK as a short term thing and as long it's naturally occurring sugar and not added.
Started on all juice yesterday after a week of replacing breakfast and lunch with juice and eating a reasonable supper. I've also take the Bolthouse approach to start, but am curious the effects with so much sugar in there. Trying to decide on a juicer to make my own, but will stick with the store bought stuff 'til then. I will say that I feel much better than usual, and have kicked energy drinks and coke entirely for over a week, which is unheard of for me. I'll try to get to the gym to get a "starting weight" but so far I'm pretty excited.
If you're going to have real food as well, it's probably better to have it in the morning so your bod has a chance to utilize it. Everything I've ever read indicates that what we eat in the evening is what doesn't get burned off and gets stored as fat. But WTF do I know. I'm damn sure a poster child for what becomes of big bowls of ice cream and cereal while watchin TV at night.
I've been the same weight for nearly 10 years, want to loose 40 lbs. Going to give this a try.
blacklabel
07-21-2013, 16:24
I've been the same weight for nearly 10 years, want to loose 40 lbs. Going to give this a try.
Stick with it. It works.
day 13
Day 1 383.5
Today 354.2
loss 29.3
and I just put on an old pair of jeans I have not worn in 2 years
day 13
Day 1 383.5
Today 354.2
loss 29.3
and I just put on an old pair of jeans I have not worn in 2 years
That's bitchin' Hobo! Congrats!
blacklabel
07-21-2013, 18:04
That's bitchin' Hobo! Congrats!
+1. Awesome work! Keep it man.
Watching fat sick and nearly dead now...
day 13
Day 1 383.5
Today 354.2
loss 29.3
and I just put on an old pair of jeans I have not worn in 2 years
Kick ass!
day 13
Day 1 383.5
Today 354.2
loss 29.3
and I just put on an old pair of jeans I have not worn in 2 years
Are you exercising at all?
Man, I tell ya...when you're doing something like this you really notice how many food, beverage and fast food commercials and ads there are on TV, in the paper, in magazines, even on the radio! No wonder Americans are so fat, we're bombarded with info and images of yummy things to put in our yaps from every direction.
Man, I tell ya...when you're doing something like this you really notice how many food, beverage and fast food commercials and ads there are on TV, in the paper, in magazines, even on the radio! No wonder Americans are so fat, we're bombarded with info and images of yummy things to put in our yaps from every direction.
Yeah, I noticed that too man. Not only that but your mind reacts differently than it once did. My mouth would salivate and I could actually taste each one of the ingredients in the item they were pushing. Beforehand if you felt like that place sounded good you would want the place but the 'craving' was completely different. That was probably the hardest part of the fast for me actually. The physical hunger subsides by like day 4 or 5 and then it's just these 'mental hungers' and that is almost worse sometimes.
blacklabel
07-21-2013, 21:29
My lady broke her fast today after two weeks. She actually asked me if I wanted anything when she went to Subway to get a salad. I didn't have any desire to eat. I'm going to do at least another week but likely the full 30 days which should put me just under 260 if I keep my average weight loss.
Are you exercising at all?
Not really yet. Cleaned ot the garage and cut back trees. Planning to start walking and liftimg this week. My legs feel better than they have in years.
Man, I tell ya...when you're doing something like this you really notice how many food, beverage and fast food commercials and ads there are on TV, in the paper, in magazines, even on the radio! No wonder Americans are so fat, we're bombarded with info and images of yummy things to put in our yaps from every direction.
Tell me about it the kids keep turning on food network...
Batteriesnare
07-22-2013, 08:36
If you're going to have real food as well, it's probably better to have it in the morning so your bod has a chance to utilize it. Everything I've ever read indicates that what we eat in the evening is what doesn't get burned off and gets stored as fat. But WTF do I know. I'm damn sure a poster child for what becomes of big bowls of ice cream and cereal while watchin TV at night.
Yes, that would have probably made more sense. Oh well, all juice for now - Day 3...
blacklabel
07-22-2013, 08:39
Day 14
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 278.1
Current Weight: 277.8
Outside of the physical activity during the camping trip I've had absolutely no exercise in the last two weeks. I think I'm going to add a 30 minute walk in the afternoon for the next week and then build on that going forward.
Day 9
Starting Weight: 323
Current Weight: 308
Down 15
No change this morning, same # as yesterday. Wish I knew how to get the same amount of water out as I'm pouring in, or at least more of it. Drinking 4 liters/day, sure ain't getting near that much out.
Your doing great. Ron thats why I dont weigh everyday. Did on past diets and it always becomes discuraging at some point. Keep it up
Your doing great. Ron thats why I dont weigh everyday. Did on past diets and it always becomes discuraging at some point. Keep it up
It's a little more important to weigh yourself daily on a Juice fast because you're running a lot closer to the ragged edge of nutrient and hydration. It's a good idea to know where you are do know if you need to make adjustments on the fly.
blacklabel
07-23-2013, 07:23
Day 14
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 277.8
Current Weight: 277.2
Another six tenths of a pound lost.
Day 14
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 277.8
Current Weight: 277.2
Another six tenths of a pound lost.
Nice man. That's about what rate I'm gaining back per day. I feel stronger though so I'm sure a chunk of it is some lost muscle that is now coming back because I've been walking with the wife & dogs (twice yesterday) and doing more active things and my belt actually felt looser today so I'm thinking that while I am gaining some weight back it's good weight. Only time will tell if this approach to health is paying off.
Day 10
Starting Weight: 323
Current Weight: 306
Down 17
Still truckin' along.
Batteriesnare
07-23-2013, 14:15
Wife just bought me the Hamilton Beach juicer from wally world. It does sound like a jet engine, but it seems to work pretty well. Threw some carrots and apples in it for lunch...pretty good!
Wife just bought me the Hamilton Beach juicer from wally world. It does sound like a jet engine, but it seems to work pretty well. Threw some carrots and apples in it for lunch...pretty good!
Yeah, hard to muffle 800 watts. Metal latches, right?
Batteriesnare
07-23-2013, 18:20
Yeah, hard to muffle 800 watts. Metal latches, right?
I think mine has plastic latches. Any major issue that you're aware of?
Well, I've been on vege-juice-only for a week. Number of pounds lost is negligible -at best. The only thing I can figure is that I may not be a great candidate for this: I'm 46 and a lifelong vegan (born/raised), I'm simply juicing what I'd eat whole and removing carbs from the equation. At 6'/190#, I'm not expecting the numbers some are achieving but I guess I'd have expected something... The plan was to go for a month which I still intend to do but I'm not sure this is going to amount to more than simply a challenge I put myself up to while the wife is out of town. And for those contemplating it: this ain't cheap. I've spent $150 on vegetables this week, primarily from Costco and Sprouts, and that is just to 'feed' one person.
Batteriesnare
07-23-2013, 19:17
Just weighed in for the first time since starting on all juice:
Day 4:
Starting Weight: 215.4
Current Weight: 210.0
Difference: -5.4
My plan is to only weigh every 3 days, since water intake/retention can cause some interesting fluctuations day to day. So far so good, it is hard to be around other people eating tasty food, but I'm pleased with the results.
it is hard to be around other people eating tasty food
I found that to be the case the first couple of days (and posted about it in this thread) but have come up with a blend/recipe that has brought an end to any 'solid food' cravings. For me, adding cayenne really helped.
Cheated tonight. Grilled 3 burgers for the wife and grandson, and one was "too rare", so I ate it. It was awesome! Now my tummy hurts, doesn't know what it is.
I think mine has plastic latches. Any major issue that you're aware of?
Yes, the only complaints for this one I could find when researching juicers was about the plastic latches breaking even by those who bought it knowing this was the weak point and were intentionally trying to be careful. HB made a newer model with metal latches for $10 more. Buy it. If you can't find one at Walmart order it on Amazon for $60 shipped and return the plastic latch one when it arrives.
Well, I've been on vege-juice-only for a week. Number of pounds lost is negligible -at best. The only thing I can figure is that I may not be a great candidate for this: I'm 46 and a lifelong vegan (born/raised), I'm simply juicing what I'd eat whole and removing carbs from the equation. At 6'/190#, I'm not expecting the numbers some are achieving but I guess I'd have expected something... The plan was to go for a month which I still intend to do but I'm not sure this is going to amount to more than simply a challenge I put myself up to while the wife is out of town. And for those contemplating it: this ain't cheap. I've spent $150 on vegetables this week, primarily from Costco and Sprouts, and that is just to 'feed' one person.
Ideally you want to have 80/20 split of veggies to fruit mixture. If all you're having is vegetables this could be part of your problem.
Just weighed in for the first time since starting on all juice:
Day 4:
Starting Weight: 215.4
Current Weight: 210.0
Difference: -5.4
My plan is to only weigh every 3 days, since water intake/retention can cause some interesting fluctuations day to day. So far so good, it is hard to be around other people eating tasty food, but I'm pleased with the results.
This is why you weigh yourself every morning when you wake up after you pee. This is the best way to get an accurate comparison and weighing yourself every three days doesn't tell the whole story. What if you lost 2.7lbs one day, lost nothing the next and then lost another 2.7lbs the 3rd day and you did something different the 2nd day to cause that? Weighing yourself only once every three days doesn't tell you these things.
Cheated tonight. Grilled 3 burgers for the wife and grandson, and one was "too rare", so I ate it. It was awesome! Now my tummy hurts, doesn't know what it is.
On top of that expect your physical hunger to return for another few days once you go back to juice.
On top of that expect your physical hunger to return for another few days once you go back to juice.
Oh well, I'm in this for a long ride, got a lot of lard to lose. I wish I'd known about this when I lost my job last Nov., I could've been svelte by now!
I've noticed I'm more limber now. Hell at 350 I can touch my toes where 2 weeks ago I could barely cross my legs to tie my shoes. They say wheat causes joint swelling and discomfort. (From the book wheat belly) this has convinced me that I made the right choice. Today is my last day of straight juice dr orders. My blood sugars are to high even with 12 hour fast.
blacklabel
07-24-2013, 08:47
Day 15
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 277.2
Current Weight: 276.9
I'm tempted to get to 20lbs lost and move back to keto. The slow losses are demoralizing but I do feel great otherwise.
I've noticed I'm more limber now. Hell at 350 I can touch my toes where 2 weeks ago I could barely cross my legs to tie my shoes. They say wheat causes joint swelling and discomfort. (From the book wheat belly) this has convinced me that I made the right choice. Today is my last day of straight juice dr orders. My blood sugars are to high even with 12 hour fast.
How close are you staying to the 80/20 split? I'm guessing a lot more fruit than veggies if your glucose levels are elevated. Lots of people to go juice fast for glucose issues.
Day 5 since breaking the juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 270.6
Previous Weight: 270.6
Lost since yesterday: 0.0
Total Weight lost: 20.2
Most Weight lost: 23.4
Lowest Weight: 267.4
Gained since fast: 3.2
Thought I would post an update as to how things have gone since I ended the fast. In the 5 days since I've ended the fast I've gained 3.2lbs which I feel is good weight (muscle lost through atrophy) because even though I've gained 3.2lbs my belt has gotten a little bit looser. I've been walking and doing more active things here and there and have been watching what I eat. The last part is actually quite a bit easier than I thought it would be. My stomach has shrunk so it makes it easier to control portions and since about week 2 of the juice fast I haven't had any of the cravings that I once had. I've been eating better food, no breads/grains or dairy, no pop and have avoided most of the sugar that I once ate. I used to drink sweet tea and that even sounds too sweet right to me right now. Last night I had dinner at BJ's in Fort Collins with the in-laws & finally had the steak I had been craving and a side of steamed veggies. I only ate half of everything and was stuffed making it easy to box the rest up. There's no doubt that before the fast I would have eaten my meal (probably something fried) with less healthy sides, pop, some of the other's food that they didn't eat and probably a bunch of bread. As it was this was what I consider a large meal compared to what I've been eating since the fast and it was still less than 1/4 the calories I would have normally eaten at this meal plus healthier food. I haven't drank much juice since the fast but I think that's just because I had done nothing but juice for nearly 3 weeks and my body was craving real food. I'm sure I'll start mixing it back in shortly and plan to juice up some veggies today in fact. In all, I've lost over 20lbs even after recovering some muscle since the fast and I feel that this juice fast was a great decision. I plan to keep eating well and exercising and hoping that I'll start to make progress once again on weight loss since 270lbs is still a long ways from what I consider healthy. The fast was the kick-start I was looking for.
Batteriesnare
07-24-2013, 09:10
This is why you weigh yourself every morning when you wake up after you pee. This is the best way to get an accurate comparison and weighing yourself every three days doesn't tell the whole story. What if you lost 2.7lbs one day, lost nothing the next and then lost another 2.7lbs the 3rd day and you did something different the 2nd day to cause that? Weighing yourself only once every three days doesn't tell you these things.
But I'm not concerned about the day to day. I'm going for overall fat loss, not just weight loss. And like you, this is a kick off the shitty foods on to the good stuff.
Ideally you want to have 80/20 split of veggies to fruit mixture. If all you're having is vegetables this could be part of your problem.
I'm right at 80/20 but might be drinking too much juice, I'm going through almost a gallon of it on some days...
I'm right at 80/20 but might be drinking too much juice, I'm going through almost a gallon of it on some days...
I did a gallon a day, and lots of water. I don't know if I noted it, but the less water I drank, the less weight I lost. I also did about 98% veggies. I never added Bolthouse, or any of the other store bought juices to the daily regime. Even after I started eating steak, or chicken for a small snack at dinner, I still lost an average of a pound a day. I stayed away from sugars as much as I could, I never "peaked", and neither did any of my friends who followed the same stringent plan. Also, when I switched to the meat at dinner, that was literally it, no extra seasoning, no butter, nothing on the meat except fresh picked spices, then it went on the grill. There could easily be ups and downs on this fast as the weight loss is directly and immediately related to the natural energy your body uses, and the active energy your body will use day to day. Even something like sex will change what you lose, walking to the store ect.
Day 6 since breaking the juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 269.4
Previous Weight: 270.6
Lost since yesterday: 1.2
Total Weight lost: 21.4
Most Weight lost: 23.4
Lowest Weight: 267.4
Gained since fast: 2.0
Surprised to see that I was down 1.2lbs today when I got on the scale. Yesterday wasn't the best day diet-wise and exercise-wise but I still managed to lose 1.2lbs somehow. Yesterday was the first day I didn't walk the dogs and didn't mow or do anything physical other than move a couple pieces of furniture upstairs and what not. I also went to Smashburger last night for dinner and had the big Baja burger, no bun and no cheese. We also shared a side of fried chilis and I was dipping them in ranch a little bit too even. Had water to drink of course. Heck, I even gave in to hunger and had a couple of handfuls of popcorn a couple of hours later. So, if anything I was anticipating not losing weight or even gaining another half pound. One thing that was positive was I juiced up some veggies and fruits again (first time since I ended the juice fast) and replaced breakfast with juice and also sipped it here and there throughout the day. It seems as though what I was going to gain back through muscle atrophy during my juice fast has pretty much come back. I'm hoping this means I will continue to lose fat as a result of my new diet and lifestyle. It feels good to be back into the 260's again w/o a juice fast.
Just in from the weekly vege run to Costco and happened to read the nutritional fact chart on the back of a 10# bag of carrots.... a single 7" carrot apparently has 3% of my daily sodium needs and 2% of my daily carb needs. Based on how many carrots it takes to make juice, that's a whole lot of sodium & carbs!
Batteriesnare
07-25-2013, 21:19
End of day 6 check in:
starting weight: 215.4
Current weight: 206.8
Difference: 8.6
Just in from the weekly vege run to Costco and happened to read the nutritional fact chart on the back of a 10# bag of carrots.... a single 7" carrot apparently has 3% of my daily sodium needs and 2% of my daily carb needs. Based on how many carrots it takes to make juice, that's a whole lot of sodium & carbs!
It's funny, but I swear I can taste the saltiness of these juices, and I sure ain't putting any in. I've munched a bit of celery, and the stuff has a slightly salty and spicy taste I've never noticed before. Been loving celery all my life.
blacklabel
07-26-2013, 07:45
Day 18
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 274.8
Current Weight: 274.0
I'm half a pound from 20 and am planning on keeping this up for another week and a half. Still feel great and I'm starting to tell people at work why I always have this green juice with me and how it's helped in the past 3 weeks. They all find it hard to believe that I haven't eaten anything in that time period.
Day 7 since breaking the juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 268.8
Previous Weight: 269.4
Lost since yesterday: 0.6
Total Weight lost: 22.0
Most Weight lost: 23.4
Lowest Weight: 267.4
Gained since fast: 1.4
Lost just over another half pound which was good since I met a buddy at Dickey's yesterday for lunch. I must say though that the meal I ate was substantially different than it would have been before the fast. My two sides were the potatoes & green beans, nothing fried. I only had like two bites of the potatoes and some of the green beans. I didn't eat the bread which was difficult since the bread they include is incredible. I also had non-sweat tea with a splash of sweet in it and normally I would get full sweat tea and the non-sweat tea tasted like crap before. This time it was just fine. I used probably half of the BBQ sauce that I would normally use and when it was all over I resisted temptation to have some of the free ice cream they offer. I was stuffed with less meat than I normally eat too. So, like I said, not one of the most sensible meals I could have eaten but I knew this would happen from time to time and I was smart about how I went about it and that's better than how I handled things before. If I can keep losing a half a pound per day eating like this I would be more than happy. It's not the few pounds per day I was getting with the juice fast but I'm also eating again and eating things I enjoy eating so this is a path I'm happy to keep up. I didn't exercise too much yesterday so I imagine that trend should continue when I'm able to add in even more exercise since it's been a couple of days since I exercised. I'm now only 1.4lbs away from my lowest weight while I was on the juice fast.
blacklabel
07-28-2013, 08:26
Day 20
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 272.3
Current Weight: 269.9
I moved my mom out of a 2 bedroom apartment into our house yesterday. It kicked my ass but I also lost 2.4lbs. I'm planning on another week of this.
Nice man. Keep it up!
I forgot to post my Day 8 update so here's that along with the update for today:
Day 8 since breaking the juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 267.8
Previous Weight: 268.8
Lost since yesterday: 1.0
Total Weight lost: 23.0
Most Weight lost: 23.4
Lowest Weight: 267.4
Gained since fast: 0.4
Day 9 since breaking the juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 267.6
Previous Weight: 267.8
Lost since yesterday: 0.2
Total Weight lost: 23.2
Most Weight lost: 23.4
Lowest Weight: 267.4
Gained since fast: 0.2
As you can see I'm VERY close to getting back to the lowest weight I was at when I quit the juice fast. My gains today weren't the best but I know why. I had an open house to go do yesterday afternoon and I had a couple of beers & a burger patty & piece of bacon. This was in addition to my lunch & dinner which were both a fraction of what I would have normally eaten prior tot he juice fast but even though I did a couple hours of exercise yesterday morning (mowing a couple yards) it still didn't offset the crappy eating. I knew this was likely what was going to happen but it's going to happen from time to time. Just glad I didn't gain anything and I'm hoping to be down again tomorrow. Who knows, I might wake up to being the lowest weight than I've been in years if I lose 0.3lbs or more.
Bless me Father, for I have sinned.....
I fell off the wagon, sumbitch ran over me with all 4 wheels, and the horse kicked me too!
Wife had to have some friends over, and she had me smoke two pork butts/shoulders. I spend all day smoking 14lbs of meat, it turns out the best I've ever made, plus all the other fixin's, you damn right I'm diggin' in! So, a couple pounds came back on, gotta start the juicing up again Monday. Damn that 'Q was good.....
Batteriesnare
07-28-2013, 22:04
Day 9 Check in:
Starting weight: 215.4
Current Weight: 204.0
Difference: -11.4
blacklabel
07-29-2013, 09:33
Day 21
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 269.9
Current Weight: 269.1
I spent 8 hours Saturday moving furniture and boxes. I thought that this would leave me sore for a few days but I felt fine yesterday and even better today. I'm really surprised I recovered so quickly considering how sedentary my life normally is.
blacklabel
07-30-2013, 07:03
Day 22
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 269.1
Current Weight: 270.7
I gained 1.6 lbs. I didn't drink enough water yesterday but I don't see that warranting a gain like that. I had a few dreams about cheating last night. The other variable is the scale. I'm going to pop some new batteries in it and see if that might be a problem.
Day 22
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 269.1
Current Weight: 270.7
I gained 1.6 lbs. I didn't drink enough water yesterday but I don't see that warranting a gain like that. I had a few dreams about cheating last night. The other variable is the scale. I'm going to pop some new batteries in it and see if that might be a problem.
The water makes more of a difference than you would think. Hell, when I pee it's usually good for 0.4lbs or so that's why I peed before I weighed myself. Helps to rule out variables. So if you don't drink enough water your body will hold onto more water to prevent dehydration and it won't be able to carry the leftovers from burning the fat off as easily. Taking all that into account you can see how not getting enough water can cause a gain that seems significant but for someone our size really isn't. That's why I've been preaching the necessity to drink water and if you think you've drank enough, drink a little bit more.
blacklabel
07-30-2013, 09:35
I'm with you Jer. I'm about 80oz down today already. I got by this weekend because of the physical activity but the lack of water yesterday screwed me.
I'm with you Jer. I'm about 80oz down today already. I got by this weekend because of the physical activity but the lack of water yesterday screwed me.
Yeah, I think that tomorrow morning you'll find that you're back on track.
Anybody tried a colon cleanse with this? Been thinking about it.....
Anybody tried a colon cleanse with this? Been thinking about it.....
No but a buddy of mine that did his first juice fast a couple of years ago and then hung onto that lifestyle pretty good swears by these (http://www.amazon.com/Natures-Secret-Detoxification-Cleansing-120-Count/dp/B0000533I2/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1372962820&sr=8-12&keywords=detox+kit) but I never tried them.
Rooskibar03
07-30-2013, 20:54
Fell off the wagon but it tasted oh so good. (Still holding in the upper 2 teens)
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm251/cmuthard03/86c6e6a77a710fc5abbff87e0f6377cf_zpsd5ad6e97.jpg
Quick update - I'm 8lb down since I stopped juice diet and started to eat better food...
blacklabel
08-01-2013, 06:57
I'm down to 267.7 and my last fasting day will be Saturday.
I started juicing only for dinner on 7/29-30... 7/31 was my first entire day and man was it tough. Not only did i start juicing but i also quit soda! That is my kryptonite, i can quit smoking cold turkey but soda... FU!
Today will be me 2nd entire day, i feel ok. Still fucking crave a nice burger or a large bowl of pho!
Start 261.x (was taken on 7/29 when i started dinner juicing only)
Today 253.4
blacklabel
08-01-2013, 08:15
Keep it up kwando. It's well worth it.
Day 9 since breaking the juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 267.6
Previous Weight: 268.8
Lost since yesterday: 1.2
Total Weight lost: 23.2
Most Weight lost: 23.4
Lowest Weight: 267.4
Gained since fast: 0.2
Getting closer to the weight I was when I ended the fast. I had a few days of higher sodium eating than I would like and my weight reflected that by fluctuating a pound here and there. Should be able to get back in track better and hopefully will start to see a steady decrease once again.
Today will be me 2nd entire day, i feel ok. Still fucking crave a nice burger or a large bowl of pho!
After the first three days, I found the craving for solid food had pretty much disappeared, but those first couple of days were tough, especially around 6pm. Each time I was hungry I just had another pint of juice. I also found that a high percentage of fruit in the juice made it far less filling, whereas a primarily vegetable based juice did better at keeping me 'full'. Granted, I've only been at this for 16 days now (aiming for 30 total).
For me the toughest was day 4...
blacklabel
08-02-2013, 05:32
I gained another pound... Tons of water yesterday, normal amount of juice, didn't eat a thing. Today's my last day.
Day 10 since breaking the juice fast check-in:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 266.6
Previous Weight: 267.6
Lost since yesterday: 1.0
Total Weight lost: 24.2
Most Weight lost: 24.2
Lowest Weight: 266.6
Lost since fast: 0.8
Today is a good day for me for the simple fact that you'll notice that my Total Wight Lost & Most Weight Lost columns have the same number. My Lowest weight is also me weight today. This is good because it means I'm officially at my lowest weight since I started the juice fast. Yesterday I was only 0.2 above my lowest weight so losing that full pound put me well past my previous low mark. It also means I was able to change the 'Gained since fast' column to 'lost since fast' which is a good feeling. It feels good to be able to eat food now and do so in a manner that I'm still losing weight. Here's to hoping that I get to 25lbs lost by tomorrow & maybe I can crack into the 250's by next weekend! Nice round numbers that are just around the corner.
For me the toughest was day 4...
I heard a lot of people saying that so I was bracing for the worst but I think mine peak was somewhere around day 2 maybe because while I kept expecting it to get worse it slowly improved.
I gained another pound... Tons of water yesterday, normal amount of juice, didn't eat a thing. Today's my last day.
Good deal man. Remember, this is just the beginning. The idea is to break your habits and mindset that got you to this point to begin with. If you do the things I mentioned earlier you will still see the weight come off: No pop, no dairy products, no breads or grains, avoid sugar as much as possible, don't eat late & when you do eat make sure your portions stay small. On top of that.... keep on juicin'! Drink juice throughout the day and even replace meals with it from time to time. I can tell you that before the fast, even though I ended up 'only' doing 3 weeks, there's no way I could have changed my lifestyle the way I have. All the weight I've lost since is attributed to said lifestyle too.
trlcavscout
08-02-2013, 09:32
I am still reading through this, but you guys really do liquid diets for a month at a time?
My biggest concerns would be trying to balance the family's eating while I did this.
The cost of this?
And my work, it is pretty physical, no set lunch break and no refrigerator.
I am still reading through this, but you guys really do liquid diets for a month at a time?
My biggest concerns would be trying to balance the family's eating while I did this.
The cost of this?
And my work, it is pretty physical, no set lunch break and no refrigerator.
This would be tough for someone with a normal job. The juices require a LOT of vegetables to make a decent quantity, and the machine has to be cleaned up immediately or you'll regret it. The juice needs to be drank soon also or the nutrients get lost or degrade, it's not really something you could make up a day's worth at once.
I don't know about the store-bought stuff Jer was using. But the homemade stuff takes a lot of produce and cleanup work.
Not trying to scare you off, just offering insight. You might make it work, and if you have a physical job burning lots of calories you may see great results. You may also see good results by simply changing what you eat now. Most "food" we love is bad for us anyway, in all reality. It's designed to make someone money rather than make people healthy.
I wanted to ask if there was a juicer that was decided as being the best. I read the first several pages and notice the HB Big Mouth seemed to be liked. I also noticed someone liked the Breville. I am thinking of getting the Breville Juice Fountain Plus but wanted to check here first.
I wanted to ask if there was a juicer that was decided as being the best. I read the first several pages and notice the HB Big Mouth seemed to be liked. I also noticed someone liked the Breville. I am thinking of getting the Breville Juice Fountain Plus but wanted to check here first.
You can't go wrong with either one.
I wanted to ask if there was a juicer that was decided as being the best. I read the first several pages and notice the HB Big Mouth seemed to be liked. I also noticed someone liked the Breville. I am thinking of getting the Breville Juice Fountain Plus but wanted to check here first.
I got mine at Bed Bath & Beyond. I got the Breville Juice Fountain for $200. The Plus is the lower priced unit at $150, and there's a higher priced one at $300. I think mine is just fine, it has 5 speeds.
GhostRider
08-02-2013, 18:43
Congrats Jer!!! Been thinking of doing one of the juice diets too. keep going buddy
blacklabel
08-02-2013, 20:19
I'll be going loose paleo after this with some dairy, the occasional couple of beers, etc. I'll also be juicing one or two meals a day.
I honestly think that sticking to the juice fast has been easier than eating right will be.
I'll be going loose paleo after this with some dairy, the occasional couple of beers, etc. I'll also be juicing one or two meals a day.
I honestly think that sticking to the juice fast has been easier than eating right will be.
In some ways it is. If I were you I'd drop dairy too. For guys like us it makes things worse.
blacklabel
08-02-2013, 21:09
Yeah, you're right. I need to get the wife on board with going paleo for her and the kid as well. We buy him so much crap.
Yeah, you're right. I need to get the wife on board with going paleo for her and the kid as well. We buy him so much crap.
Getting him eating healthy now will be one of the best things you can do for the lad.
blacklabel
08-03-2013, 07:41
Starting Weight: 293.5
Current Weight: 264.9
Previous Weight: 268.4
Lost since yesterday: 3.5
Total Weight lost: 28.6
Most Weight lost: 28.6
Lowest Weight: 264.9
Lost since fast: N/A
I hit 264.9 this morning and promptly broke the fast with a nibble of bacon and followed that up with a juice. To be honest, the bacon tasted like ass. I'm ready for a salad for lunch.
What scale are you guys using?
Day 6
Starting weight - 262.x
Today's weight - 247.8
It gets a lot easier. The hardest part was golfing Friday with coworkers and everyone having a drink with food. Cooked my son some noodles and had a sip of the broth. Man was that sodium awesome, but didn't cave in. Wife is being her juice also but has to moderate because she is still nursing.
Any thoughts on splenda? (Or any of the newer no calorie sweeteners, no "pink" or "blue" ones) As far as have you tried all this and still used the splenda and had trouble losing, or mid diet cut the splenda and suddenly saw an increase in loss?
News recently was talking about why diet soda may even be bad. (I don't drink soda). But the reasons could mean I'm not helping myself with splenda in my coffee/oatmeal. Right now 6ft1 and hovering 180-185 on my current diet which is fairly sparse and pretty good but for usually fast food 1x/week. I'd like to get back down to 175 on just diet alone. (Looking at trying the gym that is pretty close to my new place, I don't need to lose a ton of weight, but on other hand I need to get some strength training in.)
Personally I'm just trying to avoid all sweeteners.
What scale are you guys using?
This is the scale (http://www.amazon.com/Ozeri-Precision-Digital-Capacity-Activation/dp/B00472I1V2/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1375762065&sr=8-13&keywords=ozeri) that I use. Works just fine.
Day 6 is today.
Today's weight - 246.4 lbs
Total weight loss - 15.6 lbs
Average weight loss per day - 2.23lbs
Weight loss from yesterday - 1 lb
At noon today it will be 1 week since i've had solid food, and that was a turkey salad from Four Leaf. I cannot believe i've lasted this long! I have to pat myself on my back, i also quit soda at the same time... so w00t!
It has not been easy!
blacklabel
08-06-2013, 11:15
Nice work kwando. Keep it up.
Day 6 is today.
Today's weight - 246.4 lbs
Total weight loss - 15.6 lbs
Average weight loss per day - 2.23lbs
Weight loss from yesterday - 1 lb
At noon today it will be 1 week since i've had solid food, and that was a turkey salad from Four Leaf. I cannot believe i've lasted this long! I have to pat myself on my back, i also quit soda at the same time... so w00t!
It has not been easy!
Do eet!
hurley842002
08-06-2013, 19:33
Wife bought some of the Bolthouse farms juice, the green one, and I must say, it was tasty! I think I'll start drinking one of those a day in the morning, to supplement my current meal plan, I don't get as many servings of fruits and veggies as I should.
blacklabel
08-07-2013, 07:30
Hey Jer, how much weight did you put on after the fast? I've been eating damn well and have put on a couple of pounds. Part of the problem is that I'm still a slug.
Hey Jer, how much weight did you put on after the fast? I've been eating damn well and have put on a couple of pounds. Part of the problem is that I'm still a slug.
It was 3-4lbs. I don't recall exactly how much but it took me like a week or so to get back to where I was at the lowest point in my juice fast. It's all there in my notes if you want to know I just don't have time to look back through.
hurley842002
08-08-2013, 19:35
Decided I'm going to integrate quite a few of the juices in my diet, so not a full fledged juice fast, but juices are going to take over much of my intake throughout the day.
I've found that since having a baby in the family, I'm not nearly as consistent going to the gym. While I hope to up the gym frequency, the high protein diet I've utilized in the past, isn't conducive to the amount of activity I'm able to put forth. Also plan to cut dairy out for awhile.
I'll still eat a good healthy meal for dinner (fish, chicken breast etc.), but most of the day will consist of juice, whole fruits and veggies, nuts etc.
Now with all that said, Naked or Bolthouse farms?
Naked is not all natural, they settled a 9 million dollar lawsuit. I still resort to it when I cannot juice.
http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/2589717
Naked or Bolthouse farms?
Little of both. I like more of the Bolthouse juices but the mango Naked juice is really good.
blacklabel
08-09-2013, 07:06
I got up to 267.7 but am now at 266.2, just a little over a pound to get back to my low weight.
I got up to 267.7 but am now at 266.2, just a little over a pound to get back to my low weight.
We'll work on that last pound in a few hours at Grimm Brothers. [Beer]
blacklabel
08-09-2013, 12:16
We'll work on that last pound in a few hours at Grimm Brothers. [Beer]
Haha, I'm sure we will.
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