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I started Monday and lost 3.8lbs within 24hrs. After 5 days I'm down over 11lbs. The plan is to do this for 60 days and the hope is to trim 60lbs within that time-frame. Once I'm finished I will do a complete overhaul of my diet in order to get healthier. I've watched a lot of videos and done a lot of research and so far this has been fantastic for me. I haven't been as hungry as I thought I would be and being in Ketosis has just melted the fat off. My shorts/pants fit better already and I'm one notch tighter on my belt and it's loose. I started at 290.8lbs and am already into the 270's after barely 5 days of taking nothing but juice and water in. My activity has been limited since I started and I'm not sure if this is why some complain of headaches and other side effects. I don't get headaches so if I start to get them while on this diet I guess we know what caused them. So far it's been fine though and the first few days seemed to be the hardest as far was food cravings go. In all, I feel great and it's not as bad as I was expecting based on what others had said.
So, who else is currently doing or has done a juice diet? Curious what results others had.
nikolatesla19
07-05-2013, 12:32
You using a juicer?
You using a juicer?
Not yet. The juicers I'm interested in start at $300 so it was an investment I wasn't going to make until I was sure it was going to get used. It's also more expensive to make your juice that way even factoring out the cost of the machine itself. Instead, what I've been doing is buying Bolthouse Farms juices and using those instead. They taste good and are packed with vitamins and such plus flash pasteurized which is a good thing. I've read they're not no-GMO but at this point that's not a huge concern of mine but if it is one of yours it's something you may want to consider. Some recommend Naked juice but I prefer the taste and flavors of the Bolthouse Farms better and to me staying with this diet is more important than saving GMO's and possibly falling off of the diet because I can't stand the juice after a few days.
Hit up craigslist for a juicer.
Hit up craigslist for a juicer.
I've had my eye on them for a while now so if I decide to her one I may.
tmleadr03
07-05-2013, 13:36
I have done a beer and liquor diet...
Or is that just called a bender?
I have done a beer and liquor diet...
Or is that just called a bender?
Yeah, I don't really think the word 'diet' belongs anywhere in there except to say this is the opposite of a...[Flower]
RCCrawler
07-05-2013, 13:55
Loosing 60lbs in 60 days while it sounds great is not healthy at all.
Yeah not too good on the body and if you Dont do it right I would imagine you will gain back what you lost plus some since the body is feeling deprived and wanting to get back to where it was comfortable.
ImNtUrBuddyGuy
07-05-2013, 14:10
60lbs in 60 days is not healthy at all. When I was in the military I lost 18lbs in a month and even after that I felt like crap but I was running and lifting most every day.
A healthy pace to lose weight is usually 2lbs/week. And also remember it's healthier to exercise and go on a diet too instead of just running a calorie deficit by starving yourself. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fast-weight-loss/AN01621
Listen guys, I'm not a spring chic. I've been around the block as far as working out and dieting. I realize all the basic fundamentals but being 300lbs isn't healthy either. I've tried working out and dieting for years and am tired of getting nowhere.
When I was in my 20's I ate right and worked out 6 days a week like a beast. I used to play basketball (full court) for hours every day too and when I look back I was always fatter than my buddies even with all the effort I put in. Fast forward a decade and things have gotten worse and working out and dieting was good to only maintain and never got me anywhere. It was to the point where I was injuring myself and then I'd be out for months. The last two injuries were shoulder injuries doing what I would consider to be light weight and I didn't feel anything at the time of working out to indicate I did something wrong instead I woke up the next morning in pain which lasted for months. Both times it took me almost 8 months to fully recover. In both instances I was only a few months back into working out and started with light weights and hadn't even increased my weights that much to avoid injury.
My current life doesn't allow for me to plan a schedule or a diet and do it the better way so this is my option. The plan is to get down to a reasonable weight and then slowly re-introduce healthy foods in small portions and working out to see if I can maintain. Do some research and you will find LOTS of people who have done exactly this. They do a juice diet to get down to a reasonable weight and then use that time to clean the desire for crappy foods and large portions out of their lives and then replace with healthy foods and exercise. That's what I'm doing. I'm not saying this is for everyone but I'm not some 20 year old kid looking for the short cut. I've done it all and am still horribly unhealthy (even though I'm stronger and have better cardio than most of my friends my age) so for me this is an extreme change from what I've done for years in an attempt to drastically change something.
If I drop the weight I'm planning to drop and in the process learn to eat better or train my body to crave good foods it can't be all bad. Granted, I wouldn't recommend this for everyone but for some people it can be a means to an end.
Yeah not too good on the body and if you Dont do it right I would imagine you will gain back what you lost plus some since the body is feeling deprived and wanting to get back to where it was comfortable.
I'm not starving myself. I'm supplying my body with nutrients and vitamins via vegetable & fruit juices. I'm just not eating food. This forces the body into ketosis which is burning fat for energy instead of depending on food intake for energy. Once I get to a more reasonable weight I will start to introduce healthy food back into my diet and hopefully by then my situation is such that I can make the time to work out and be more active. Until then this is the best immediate action I can take. There are TONS of people online who have done what I'm currently doing and I'm having a hard time finding horror stories. Most people are able to get off of ALL of their meds and are substantially more healthy once they're done than when they started. I'm not attempting to navigate uncharted territory here and I'm not starving myself either. My caloric intake has simply been reduced to veggie and fruit juice. If I feel at any point I'm endangering myself I will stop. At this point I feel great though and feel like this is the way for me to keep from breaking the 300lb mark.
I've done it and had great results. I did juice only for the first 7 days and then incorporated salads, fruits, nuts and such along with my juice. Basically stating to a raw diet. It can be very difficult and you have to plan well as if you are out and about and need to eat there's no raw fast food joint. I will also point out that you will become sensitive to regular food and it will make you feel like shit if you eat it. You'll want to supplement with vitamins and such. You will feel much better, begin to regain energy, and your food (if you are eating raw) wont affect you like regular food does.
I got off of it and really need to get back to it.
Let me know how the diet goes.
I gained too much weight after taking some hydrophilic medication plus arthritis.
Meanwhile, I will do the diet called "no money diet"
$1 side salad.
Jeffrey Lebowski
07-05-2013, 16:20
Listen guys, I'm not a spring chic. I've been around the block as far as working out and dieting. I realize all the basic fundamentals but being 300lbs isn't healthy either. I've tried working out and dieting for years and am tired of getting nowhere.
Have you tried just counting calories vs exercising?
My current life doesn't allow for me to plan a schedule or a diet and do it the better way so this is my option. The plan is to get down to a reasonable weight and then slowly re-introduce healthy foods in small portions and working out to see if I can maintain. Do some research and you will find LOTS of people who have done exactly this.
If you are going to do it anyway, why not just do it now? A lifestyle change is the only way this works, if you're going to do it little by little, why not just start there?
Anyway, yeah, we have a juicer. My wife never met a kitchen appliance she doesn't like.
I've invented some pretty cool juices, but I sure don't use it very often. It is a great way to turn a lot of fruit into a little fruit and a ton of servings into 1 serving, but they taste great and are healthier than store bought juices. IMHO, only.
Vitamix = better, you can do more with it like make soups, smoothies, dips, shakes, etc.
Everyone talking about losing weight too fast being unhealthy, well, you're right but that's more for people or just need to drop a little. When at 300 lbs it's not as bad to drop fast, you just have to be prepared for the regain.
you sure you're in ketosis? You gotta have crazy low sugar in take for that and those bolthouses are loaded with sugar. I did a ketosis diet for a week and I took in 20 grams of carbs a day, which meant zero fruit or juice. One piece of fruit basically took me out of ketosis. I think it's more likely you are just runnin a large calorie deficit.
funkymonkey1111
07-05-2013, 17:27
i did a 21 day cleanse (standard process) and modified juice diet and dropped 38lbs. the cleanse allowed all you could eat fruits/veg at a 2:1 veg to fruit ratio. i juiced 90% of the fruits/veg i had during that time.
i use a breville juice fountain plus (JE98XL)--it was $149 at bed/bath/beyond, and you can regularly find 20% off coupons for BBB--bringing it to $130. It'll juice anything you want it to except lemongrass (it'll do kale, beets, whatever you can throw at it). go to http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/ for some recipes once you get the juicer.
that juicer has no problems making 4 quarts of juice in the morning at all. i have a mean green and carrot/apple/ginger each day.
Rooskibar03
07-05-2013, 18:42
If you want some inspiration for the juice diet check Netflix for "Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead". Documentary about an Aussie who does it and then travels the country introducing it to others.
FWIW Atkins over 10 weeks took off 40lbs for me. Now I just eat less overall and try to maintain where I am.
There have been a few threads on this already... I will kick back in though.
I did the juice diet for a month and a half, the first month of which was completely juice... I lost 53 lbs, and it stayed off for a very long time, almost a year without gaining a pound. Those who think it is unhealthy, don't have their information correct. I was more healthy by a long shot while juicing. As long as you have fat on ya to take care of your energy needs, you will be perfectly fine. As a matter of fact, juicing is so damn good at healing people, that the government made it illegal for a medical doctor to prescribe it to you as a treatment. If you need a juicer, I have an extra "Jack Lalans" or whatever in the hell it's called that you can have. We got one from Walmart that has worked like a charm, and cost $70 (works a hell of a lot better than the $250 Jack whatever one). Juicing provides your body with absolutely everything your body needs to work, and then some, except the calories, which if you have extra weight, your body provides. There have been numerous studies and tests done on this, and if you do it right, you will be far more healthy. My wife and I originally did this because she was seeking a cure for her chronic hives (moms a doctor that tried everything and nothing worked for a year and a half), she found the movie "Fat Sick & Nearly Dead", and we decided to go for it for her sake. A week into it, she had no hives, and hasn't for almost a year. It also got rid of her heart palpitations. She did the diet for three weeks hard core, and continued with 50/50 with salads for another month, and still juices every now and then for the hell of it. I had skin cancer, now I don't. My uncle had colon cancer, now he doesn't. I can go on and on of just my family in the last year that this has helped. In doing this though, you will encounter those that have no clue as to what they're talking about, and will run their mouth's though, just wade through the crap, and you will be fine... If you have any questions, just PM me.
Now, I wouldn't spout any of this out, if I haven't done it, and seen what "juicing" can actually do with my own eyes. Also, as a disclaimer, I'm not a vegetarian by any means (the wife is now though), Taco Bell is my favorite place in the world! K.......
For those of you that want more info, you can watch a decent movie on it called Fat Sick & Nearly Dead here: http://www.hulu.com/watch/289122
You can also watch a movie called "The Gerson Miracle" that is long, and full of information, but really boring... Here: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gerson-miracle/
^ completely agree. My brother has digestion issues and the doctors told him that he would have to be on medication for the rest of his life. A week after starting a juice routine he had no more issue and was off the meds. As spyder said you'll catch a lot of bs by those that don't know. The only real way to know what it does is to do it, those that haven't just won't understand. I would also recommend watching The Gerson Miracle.
DavieD55
07-05-2013, 20:02
Juiceing diets are great but I wouldn't leave out lean complete proteins, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats or complex carbs all together.
Juiceing diets are great but I wouldn't leave out lean complete proteins, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats or complex carbs all together.
you can leave them out for a short time. i wouldn't do it any longer than 3-4 weeks though. after that you just need to modify the diet appropriately.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZMERUKErGE
There have been a few threads on this already... I will kick back in though.
I did the juice diet for a month and a half, the first month of which was completely juice... I lost 53 lbs, and it stayed off for a very long time, almost a year without gaining a pound. Those who think it is unhealthy, don't have their information correct. I was more healthy by a long shot while juicing. As long as you have fat on ya to take care of your energy needs, you will be perfectly fine. As a matter of fact, juicing is so damn good at healing people, that the government made it illegal for a medical doctor to prescribe it to you as a treatment. If you need a juicer, I have an extra "Jack Lalans" or whatever in the hell it's called that you can have. We got one from Walmart that has worked like a charm, and cost $70 (works a hell of a lot better than the $250 Jack whatever one). Juicing provides your body with absolutely everything your body needs to work, and then some, except the calories, which if you have extra weight, your body provides. There have been numerous studies and tests done on this, and if you do it right, you will be far more healthy. My wife and I originally did this because she was seeking a cure for her chronic hives (moms a doctor that tried everything and nothing worked for a year and a half), she found the movie "Fat Sick & Nearly Dead", and we decided to go for it for her sake. A week into it, she had no hives, and hasn't for almost a year. It also got rid of her heart palpitations. She did the diet for three weeks hard core, and continued with 50/50 with salads for another month, and still juices every now and then for the hell of it. I had skin cancer, now I don't. My uncle had colon cancer, now he doesn't. I can go on and on of just my family in the last year that this has helped. In doing this though, you will encounter those that have no clue as to what they're talking about, and will run their mouth's though, just wade through the crap, and you will be fine... If you have any questions, just PM me.
Now, I wouldn't spout any of this out, if I haven't done it, and seen what "juicing" can actually do with my own eyes. Also, as a disclaimer, I'm not a vegetarian by any means (the wife is now though), Taco Bell is my favorite place in the world! K.......
For those of you that want more info, you can watch a decent movie on it called Fat Sick & Nearly Dead.
You can also watch a movie called "The Gerson Miracle" that is long, and full of information, but really boring... Here: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gerson-miracle/
Cool post. I used to have a juicer. Wish I still did. I used to juice 5 carrots and 5 sprigs of parsley in the morning. If you were closer I would take you up on your juicer. BTW that was my natural energy drink.
funkymonkey1111
07-05-2013, 20:45
If you want some inspiration for the juice diet check Netflix for "Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead". Documentary about an Aussie who does it and then travels the country introducing it to others.
FWIW Atkins over 10 weeks took off 40lbs for me. Now I just eat less overall and try to maintain where I am.
www.rebootwithjoe.com is the website for the guy's juice recipes. he used the same juicer i have in the movie--hooked up to a power source in his car. i draw inspiration from that fat trucker that lost all the weight in the movie and measured it in bowling balls. now, on a hike or bike riding, i just consider i'm not carrying two bowling balls with me.
The Master Cleanse
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/the-lemonade-diet-master-cleanse-diet (http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/the-lemonade-diet-master-cleanse-diet)
my wife did this over 10 days and lost upwards of 20 lbs. I tried it for about 2 days and almost s#!t myself to death. The cayenne pepper was my fav... It blew my ass up... Literally!!!
Cool post. I used to have a juicer. Wish I still did. I used to juice 5 carrots and 5 sprigs of parsley in the morning. If you were closer I would take you up on your juicer. BTW that was my natural energy drink.
I will honestly say, it changed everything for the better. I just wish I could have held out on it.... I love food though, and ended up not juicing much. There have been many people, thousands that have gone on a complete fast for several months, and were never healthier. Body fat contains fat soluble vitamins, and nutrients. What it doesn't contain is water soluble vitamins, such as vitamins C, thiamin, niacin, riboflavin, tryptophan, biotin, and folic acid. All of which you get from the veggies though. Now, vitamin B12 is harder to get. For that, you should put some spirulina in your juice. With this, your metabolism will speed up like you were an all star track and field athlete. Your body fat has everything but the protein that you need to build, and restore damaged muscles. If you are doing rigorous activities, you would want to supplement bee pollen into your diet. Pollen is the most soluble protein source you body can have, period. You will get more protein from one teaspoon of pollen, than a 20 oz steak. The steak has a lot more protein in it, but, your body has a hard time breaking the tissue down.
If you're going to do this, do it right . . . get a juicer. Until then, at least use a blender for smoothies . . . Bolthouse Farms is a mediocre product, it's not bad, but you don't want to try living off it. Like spyder said, bee pollen is a great supplement, and whey or egg protein powder can work too. Egg beaters and vegetable soup can be added to your diet as well as juice.
Can you do this juice diet with meat being the only other food you eat? Or does that ruin the point of the diet? I get shaky if I don't have protein.
USAFGopherMike
07-06-2013, 00:32
Wife does the juice thing on and off with a juicer, but only in 5-7 day increments. As mentioned. That's a lot of weight in a short period of time. Not healthy nor a good idea. Congrats on your progress so far. I recommend supplementing with actual fruits and veg.
DaveGoBang!
07-06-2013, 07:50
I do a 5-10 day detox every couple of months depending on my travel schedule. The key is to cut out caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, and all the other bad shit you get from eating regular processed foods. I go all organic fruits and veggies, and yes you have to juice them yourself. I lose a couple of pounds, but unless I am exercising regularly it usually comes back after resuming a solid food diet. I think the mistake people make is thinking of it as a diet, that will get them into a smaller pair of jeans, which it can, if you are aggressive, but you generally gain most of the wait back. I just view it as a time to clean my body, colon, build my immune system, etc. But to each their own, there are a million strategies out there, probably something that works for you.
Can you do this juice diet with meat being the only other food you eat? Or does that ruin the point of the diet? I get shaky if I don't have protein.
You can supplement with bee pollen, you can get it from the Vitamin Cottage/Natural Grocers and a few other places. If you weight lift, bee pollen is the best thing for you also.... Like I said, it's the easiest protein for your body to break down, and use. The last three weeks I did the diet, I couldn't stand not eating, so, I ate only meat... Still lost an average of a pound a day till I stopped juicing. I didn't gain any back for a long time, even after I started eating out and everything again. It took over a year to gain anything back, and it's my fault for going back to my old ways. If I would have stayed healthy, I would still have it off.
Wife does the juice thing on and off with a juicer, but only in 5-7 day increments. As mentioned. That's a lot of weight in a short period of time. Not healthy nor a good idea. Congrats on your progress so far. I recommend supplementing with actual fruits and veg.
You don't know what your talking about. Where do you get the information that your body processing body fat is unhealthy for it? You are not starving your body of anything that it needs to survive other than the nutrients you can give it through juicing. Eating fruits and vegies is not better for you either.... You don't gain anything from eating it, compared to juicing it. You do however gain more by juicing. You can fit 4 or 5 apples by size into a cup, as equally as one. In the juice form, you body can easily break it down and doesn't have to deal with the fiberous material from eating the actual fruit, so it can use the energy more efficiently to break down the items in your stomach (juice). As long as you are smart with it and supplement a couple items that vegetables can account for like B12, and protein (which I've already discussed), juicing is perfectly healthy for you, even in long stints. It will be the most healthy thing (food wise) anyone can do (as long as you have body fat to supplement your calorie needs).
Also, if you do this for a long stint, it will reset your metabolism. The week, or two things that people do, are not long enough for your body to get into a natural order.
What if you only need to lose 20lbs?
blacklabel
07-06-2013, 10:16
It looks like I'm getting a juicer. I've watched Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead before and the wife and I are watching it again now. Time to make a change.
Reading this with interest! I need to print this thread out and study it. I'm about 150lbs. overweight and really sick of hauling it around. I think of it as having three (!) 50lb. bags of Quikcrete mix attached to me all the time. Every move I make, all that Quikcrete goes with me. It's really quite depressing and demoralizing.
Day 6 update and then I will address the posts individually since they're rather long so multi-quote will make for the worlds longest reply I think.
I'm now down 13.8lbs since Monday. Now I'm noticing that I'm swimming in my shirts that fit me last week. That's just crazy to think of. I've had my first round of negative experiences but it's all been due to things I could have controlled. Background: I've been on prescription heartburn meds for about a decade now. This started when I started putting on weight and rather than tell me to lose weight the doctor put me on a medication. The only one I'm on in fact. A lot of people don't realize that when you put on fat and grow out.. you're growing in too. This means that your stomach is constantly being restricted and also why you don't see too many fat competitive eaters at the top level. You can expand more when you don't have fat pressing inward. This is most likely what has caused my heartburn all this time rather than some medical condition that needed treated with medications. One of the goals was to get off of the dependency for this medication and so I stopped it last week after the first day.
Things went fine for a few days but my guess is that it took that long for the medicine to get out of my system and my stomach to start producing acid at the levels it once had and probably even more. On top of that I think my stomach is shrinking it a more rapid rate than I had anticipated. This means that I was drinking too much water & juice (which is also acidic) and all of this made a perfect storm where I had some of the worst heartburn I've had in my life. On a hunch I quit drinking juice and water last night and it did get better so I'm thinking now I'm just learning to find that line which will continue to move as my stomach shrinks. You get full with liquid but it's not the same 'full' feeling that you're used to with food so you have to re-learn when to stop. I've also started my heartburn medication again and once I get further down in weight or possibly once I'm done and able to take in less acidic items I will try to ween off once again. I don't see getting off of medications being a problem once I've cut the weight. As I was lowering my uptake I was noticing some shortness of breath. I've usually been pretty strong and pretty good cardio even given my weight and make-up so this was pretty noticeable to my immediately. Fast forward to this morning which was Saturday and when I get up to mow my lawn and my neighbor's lawn. I got winded half way through her lawn and didn't think I was going to finish both. The problem was when I got up I was afraid of getting heartburn so I just drank the smallest amount of water before I started. The heartburn wasn't there but I also didn't have any fuel for the fire which is what lead to the shortness of breath. The weird thing is I would sit for a minute and still not catch my breath like you do when you're doing cardio or playing sports. It just kept going. So I started adding in water and juice slowly and once I finished I'm now relaxing and taking in juice and water again. I'm slowly coming back to somewhat normal but it's pretty clear this is going to be a balancing game as my stomach shrinks and my needs vary.
So, for those that asked about exercising while doing a juice fast... I wouldn't recommend it. I mowed our lawn Wednesday morning (yeah, three days ago because I just feed it last week) and practically sprinted through it and didn't even notice anything. I'm guessing it was because I was taking in a lot more juice at the time and now it's a pretty big difference. So had I been exercising hard this whole time the balance act would have been even more difficult. I don't think you want to stress your body that much because it is a shock to the system from what it's used to.
Sorry for the long-winded update but for those interested I actually had something to report finally since all along it's been a lot easier than I had expected. This is more what I expected and it looks like it will require a little bit of effort to complete. But I'm already nearly at 14lbs lost and when I got off to such a good start I changed my goal from 1lb a day for the first week to 2lbs a day for the first week. Since I'm basically there I'm not hoping to see 20lbs by Monday morning. That's about 3lbs a day which is more than I had been losing recently but that's what goals are for, right? The nice thing about this diet is that I'm not going to strain myself to get to that goal. I'm just living life and letting the weight do what it does so it's pretty low stress.
Edit: Forgot to address those who were saying this is unhealthy and I should just change my diet...
Some people call it starving myself and I'm really not. The weird part is I come from a long line of addicts and yet I've never been addicted to anything... so I thought. I think I've determined that food and eating is my habit. I was talking about this topic from this angle with a close friend and she said that it was the hardest 'addiction' to overcome since you HAVE to eat. Alcohol & drugs your body doesn't need (save for a few hormonal things that can be corrected long-term) so you can quit. Now, I realize it's harder than that but the point is when you quit you can cut it out of your life and avoid even seeing it and the temptation. You can't do that with food. You must eat food to survive. Well.... this is my cold turkey. For those that ask why and say it's not healthy and yadda yadda... this is the healthiest way I can quit cold turkey. Once it no longer controls me the way it did I can do better at controlling what I take in. I now realize that my poor health had become my 'habit' and the desire to eat nothing but crap was obviously out of my control. So telling me to just control my diet and count carbs and blah blah blah is like seeing a heroin addict curled up on the street and walking up to them and telling them 'Hey, you should stop doing heroin' No shit. It's a little bit more difficult than that for me. If this is what I needed to break that addiction then so be it. I don't see myself being anywhere near as unhealthy as I had been moving forward so how can it be bad?
hurley842002
07-06-2013, 12:54
I had a huge in depth response typed out, and somehow this POS tapatalk erased it. I may still type it out later (headed to the gym now lol).
Part of the response was good on you Jer, for doing what YOU need to do, to become healthier. I know what works for me, but what works for me, may not work for others. Good luck man, and stay focused!
I've done it and had great results. I did juice only for the first 7 days and then incorporated salads, fruits, nuts and such along with my juice. Basically stating to a raw diet. It can be very difficult and you have to plan well as if you are out and about and need to eat there's no raw fast food joint. I will also point out that you will become sensitive to regular food and it will make you feel like shit if you eat it. You'll want to supplement with vitamins and such. You will feel much better, begin to regain energy, and your food (if you are eating raw) wont affect you like regular food does.
I got off of it and really need to get back to it.
Thanks for the support. Fortunately my life has worked well this diet so for the most part I have been able to meet the needs. It's also pretty easy to find juice just about anywhere. I get what you're saying about regular food because I tried a trial run Thursday and Friday of last week and eating a small meal at dinner made me feel not so good. In fact, I considered not doing it based on that water testing (pun intended) and I'm glad I didn't. Once you get that crud out of your mind it's a smoother transition.
Let me know how the diet goes.
I gained too much weight after taking some hydrophilic medication plus arthritis.
Meanwhile, I will do the diet called "no money diet"
$1 side salad.
I've been there but it seems that I eat worse when I'm broke. Only in America will you find overweight homeless & unemployed. There's a reason for that man.
Have you tried just counting calories vs exercising?
If you are going to do it anyway, why not just do it now? A lifestyle change is the only way this works, if you're going to do it little by little, why not just start there?
Anyway, yeah, we have a juicer. My wife never met a kitchen appliance she doesn't like.
I've invented some pretty cool juices, but I sure don't use it very often. It is a great way to turn a lot of fruit into a little fruit and a ton of servings into 1 serving, but they taste great and are healthier than store bought juices. IMHO, only.
Vitamix = better, you can do more with it like make soups, smoothies, dips, shakes, etc.
Yeah, I've been there man. In a past life (15yrs ago) was pretty serious about being athletic and working out, sports and cardio was what consumed my time when I wasn't working or sleeping. I ate amazing and did everything you're supposed to do when you do that sort of thing and while I was stronger and had better cardio that my workout partners they were always leaner. I was always what I would consider 'fat' and I really think that my thyroid is out of whack and causing this. We actually have two dogs that have hypothyroidism and the symptoms they had were pretty similar to my symptoms. As of late I was just tired of failing at trying to change my eating habits and working out habits after so many years of failing. You eventually get to a point where you just can't muster the motivation to fail again. That's where I am only I wasn't willing to do just nothing about it. This is what I'm doing about it.
As for the Vitamix.. I've heard wonderful things about them from all the videos I've been watching and I'm going to start saving my allowance to hopefully get one at some point. Seems this is a vital item to have for those who plan to incorporate this as part of their lifestyle moving forward.
If you want some inspiration for the juice diet check Netflix for "Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead". Documentary about an Aussie who does it and then travels the country introducing it to others.
FWIW Atkins over 10 weeks took off 40lbs for me. Now I just eat less overall and try to maintain where I am.
Yeah, I saw that and a few similar videos and that was my inspiration. If they can do it as bad as they were health-wise I can do it. And the longer I wait to start the harder it will be to get healthy.
There have been a few threads on this already... I will kick back in though.
I did the juice diet for a month and a half, the first month of which was completely juice... I lost 53 lbs, and it stayed off for a very long time, almost a year without gaining a pound. Those who think it is unhealthy, don't have their information correct. I was more healthy by a long shot while juicing. As long as you have fat on ya to take care of your energy needs, you will be perfectly fine. As a matter of fact, juicing is so damn good at healing people, that the government made it illegal for a medical doctor to prescribe it to you as a treatment. If you need a juicer, I have an extra "Jack Lalans" or whatever in the hell it's called that you can have. We got one from Walmart that has worked like a charm, and cost $70 (works a hell of a lot better than the $250 Jack whatever one). Juicing provides your body with absolutely everything your body needs to work, and then some, except the calories, which if you have extra weight, your body provides. There have been numerous studies and tests done on this, and if you do it right, you will be far more healthy. My wife and I originally did this because she was seeking a cure for her chronic hives (moms a doctor that tried everything and nothing worked for a year and a half), she found the movie "Fat Sick & Nearly Dead", and we decided to go for it for her sake. A week into it, she had no hives, and hasn't for almost a year. It also got rid of her heart palpitations. She did the diet for three weeks hard core, and continued with 50/50 with salads for another month, and still juices every now and then for the hell of it. I had skin cancer, now I don't. My uncle had colon cancer, now he doesn't. I can go on and on of just my family in the last year that this has helped. In doing this though, you will encounter those that have no clue as to what they're talking about, and will run their mouth's though, just wade through the crap, and you will be fine... If you have any questions, just PM me.
Now, I wouldn't spout any of this out, if I haven't done it, and seen what "juicing" can actually do with my own eyes. Also, as a disclaimer, I'm not a vegetarian by any means (the wife is now though), Taco Bell is my favorite place in the world! K.......
For those of you that want more info, you can watch a decent movie on it called Fat Sick & Nearly Dead.
You can also watch a movie called "The Gerson Miracle" that is long, and full of information, but really boring... Here: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gerson-miracle/
Thank you for posting this.
I had a longer post for you but it's scattered in the couple of long posts I've mad this morning. I will absolutely take you up on the offer for that juicer and that's a very cool thing for you do and will get me off on the right track to making my own juices until I can get one of the higher end juicers.
If you're going to do this, do it right . . . get a juicer. Until then, at least use a blender for smoothies . . . Bolthouse Farms is a mediocre product, it's not bad, but you don't want to try living off it. Like spyder said, bee pollen is a great supplement, and whey or egg protein powder can work too. Egg beaters and vegetable soup can be added to your diet as well as juice.
Yeah, I understand that Bolthouse Farms isn't the most ideal way to go about this but I'm doing it and it's working. I will tweak when I can but waiting until I got a juicer and all this other jazz was just another excuse. July 1st was the date it was going down and if that meant cutting my lawn and grinding it up with power tools in the garage then so be it. Buying juice is just easier and tastier.
Can you do this juice diet with meat being the only other food you eat? Or does that ruin the point of the diet? I get shaky if I don't have protein.
I don't have the answer for this but I think the answer is no. I think the idea of doing this is to go all in as little things here and there can change the way the process is supposed to work.
Imma try this.
Do your research and give it a shot. Just make sure it's for you and not because it seemed like the thing to do because I've had good results so far. I don't think this is for everyone but I feel like most Americans could probably benefit from this.
I do a 5-10 day detox every couple of months depending on my travel schedule. The key is to cut out caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, and all the other bad shit you get from eating regular processed foods. I go all organic fruits and veggies, and yes you have to juice them yourself. I lose a couple of pounds, but unless I am exercising regularly it usually comes back after resuming a solid food diet. I think the mistake people make is thinking of it as a diet, that will get them into a smaller pair of jeans, which it can, if you are aggressive, but you generally gain most of the wait back. I just view it as a time to clean my body, colon, build my immune system, etc. But to each their own, there are a million strategies out there, probably something that works for you.
None of those things save for caffeine were an issue. I do own a Sodastream so making soda at home made things easy. Too easy. While they're healthier than full sugar and caffeine pop they're still drinking crap... just at lower doses. I didn't have any headaches or anything though so I really don't think I drank much but I never needed it (caffeine) anyway so for me it was just for flavor. I don't need caffeine to start my day like some. The plan is to introduce healthier foods into my diet when the time comes and also add some sort of cardio to not only maintain but hopefully improve on overall health.
Jer (and anybody else), check out www.utopiasilver.com , they have some great liquid products that would go great in juices. Vitamin and mineral products, colloidal silver and gold, etc.
What if you only need to lose 20lbs?
I'm not an expert but to give you an idea... my plan is to lose 60lbs in 60 days which would get my to 230lbs. At that point, I feel like I could lose the additional 15-20lbs my body would truly need to lose for long-term health of joints and such. So, I'm using this to get the point you're at based on what you're saying. I'm not saying you can't do it but maybe a simple change in diet and exercise would be the better way to go about things. I know if I had 20lbs to lose I wouldn't be doing this but I don't and I clearly have a problem that has manifested into what I am over the last decade or so. That's my unprofessional opinion not knowing any more about your situation though.
It looks like I'm getting a juicer. I've watched Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead before and the wife and I are watching it again now. Time to make a change.
Good for you! If it's juicing or not just taking that stand that enough is enough and it's time to change is awesome!
Reading this with interest! I need to print this thread out and study it. I'm about 150lbs. overweight and really sick of hauling it around. I think of it as having three (!) 50lb. bags of Quikcrete mix attached to me all the time. Every move I make, all that Quikcrete goes with me. It's really quite depressing and demoralizing.
Well, I've given you more to study this morning. lol
Honestly, jump on YouTube and search for juice diet and juice fast and watch the videos. Plenty of people who started blogging day 1 and posting up videos all the way to the end so you get to see the highs, the lows and more importantly the progress. Seeing them do it with your own eyes makes it easier to do it yourself. They also all tend to start eating healthy afterwards and post up videos about their new lifestyle which helps to give you a course of action once it's all done so you don't just go back to what you did before after a few days. It sounds like you're in a similar boat to me and I can tell you that I feel like this has been one of the better decisions I've ever made. Time will tell but I know exactly what you mean about how depressing it is. I'm a very jovial person by nature but no matter how happy I am it's hard to escape that fact that I'm fat. I mean, I'm almost carrying my wife on my back with me everywhere I go. And it's not just where you go but when you sit down it's sort of all around you... organs and all. Just not healthy man.
I had a huge in depth response typed out, and somehow this POS tapatalk erased it. I may still type it out later (headed to the gym now lol).
Part of the response was good on you Jer, for doing what YOU need to do, to become healthier. I know what works for me, but what works for me, may not work for others. Good luck man, and stay focused!
Thanks man. I really don't want this to seem like I'm saying this is the best idea for everyone and everyone should rush out and do it but for some... I believe it's a means to an end and I feel like I'm sadly now in that group. I feel like I was on the doorstep of some serious health complications if I continued down the path I was on and I decided I didn't want to wait for something bad to happen to force my hand. You don't always get a second chance after all.
Seems like juice diet is working great.
I am planning to do 1 meal juice diet for now.
I think juice diet for summer might work out for me. I will just use regular blender for now. I am planning to do 1 meal juice diet as a start.
Glad we have banana and strawberry
http://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Rooskibar03http://www.ar-15.co/images/tf_ideal/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.ar-15.co/showthread.php?p=1217171#post1217171)If you want some inspiration for the juice diet check Netflix for "Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead". Documentary about an Aussie who does it and then travels the country introducing it to others.
FWIW Atkins over 10 weeks took off 40lbs for me. Now I just eat less overall and try to maintain where I am.
When Akins were popular 12 years ago, I was on an Atkins diet. Worked out great. Moderate exercise and Atkins worked out great.
The downside was, I was suffering from Gout from Atkins. About 18 month after I stopped Atkins, gout went bye bye.
Haven't had one since 2004ish, but I still keep my First Gout Kit just in case.
I told myself I would rather be super overweight than have one gout. [LOL]
Also, for everyone.... If you want a juicer, you don't need one of the really expensive one's like the one Joe had of FS&ND. We looked at consumer reports, and literally the third best one a year ago was one that you can order from Walmart: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hamilton-Beach-Big-Mouth-Juice-Extractor-Powerful-800-Watt-Motor-67650/14320925
The one I showed was literally third on the list... We used it non stop for a month and a half, almost two months (literally it was going almost every hour cause the wife is picky and has to have a bunch of different juice types). It is still going strong, and kicked the shit out of our "Jack LaLanne" thing.
Seems like juice diet is working great.
I am planning to do 1 meal juice diet for now.
I think juice diet for summer might work out for me. I will just use regular blender for now. I am planning to do 1 meal juice diet as a start.
Glad we have banana and strawberry
When Akins were popular 12 years ago, I was on an Atkins diet. Worked out great. Moderate exercise and Atkins worked out great.
The downside was, I was suffering from Gout from Atkins. About 18 month after I stopped Atkins, gout went bye bye.
Haven't had one since 2004ish, but I still keep my First Gout Kit just in case.
I told myself I would rather be super overweight than have one gout. [LOL]
I refused to do the Atkins diet when it was all the rage for a couple of reasons 1) I was in better shape back then so it would have been more for vanity reasons which I couldn't justify and 2) after the research I did it just seemed like it wasn't a good idea. I know that may seem hypocritical because of what I'm currently doing but based on my research a juice diet is quite a bit healthier than the Atkins diet. Anything that says 'eat as much bacon as you want to get healthy' just doesn't seem like a wise idea to me. [LOL]
Also, for everyone.... If you want a juicer, you don't need one of the really expensive one's like the one Joe had of FS&ND. We looked at consumer reports, and literally the third best one a year ago was one that you can order from Walmart: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hamilton-Beach-Big-Mouth-Juice-Extractor-Powerful-800-Watt-Motor-67650/14320925
The one I showed was literally third on the list... We used it non stop for a month and a half, almost two months (literally it was going almost every hour cause the wife is picky and has to have a bunch of different juice types). It is still going strong, and kicked the shit out of our "Jack LaLanne" thing.
Yeah, I know I don't need a super expensive one but it seems that the more expensive ones can do some things that the other ones don't and seem to last longer too while doing those things. I wanted a LaLane for years and never bought one because it was an addition to my current diet... one that I felt would get as much use given how much crap I ate anyway. Now that it's going to become a large staple in my diet I need to get something. If you're still willing to hook me up with the one you're not using I'll gladly Paypal you money to cover shipping.
Any comment on the cost of this diet? Seems like blending fresh fruit every day would get expensive?
Also, if you want the best of the weight loss, do not eat anything. Literally, if you have to chew it, don't do it. You can get spirulina, and bee pollen which are the only two additives you need that will supply the rest of the nutrients your body needs that the vegetables don't. You can get both at the Natural Grocers, or the Vitamin Cottage. < Also good stores to pick up free range, all natural beef I found...
Stuving, you're too skinny to do just juice for a long period... You could do it for a week, maybe two........ Nothing past that. I think two might be stretching it. You can throw in some actual food at the end of the first week. You should still lose some weight, but don't push it.
If you do just juice, and nothing else, you will loose (between friends that I had do this at the college with me, and myself) between 1 pound, to three a day. The other key to it, is to stay hydrated. Without water, your body won't function right, and you might as well just piss the whole experience away. Really, drink shit loads of water.
The one friend that did it for a straight month, has still kept it off without even trying. This happened about five months ago. He was very serious about it though. He did straight juice, no food, not a lot of sugary substances either.
That reminds me... Fruit juices are awesome, they taste amazing (my favorite is the skittle drink, tastes literally like a hand full of skittles), but the natural sugars provide lots of energy that your body will use instead of burning the fat, so, the more natural sugars you put in, the less the weight loss. A lot of the skeptics out there did, or looked at a lot of juice regiments that incorporated lots of fruit juices. Fruits are good for you, but don't do you nearly as much as vegetables in most cases. Like for instance, if you think that oranges provide the most vitamin C, you're wrong, by a long shot... Red bell peppers provide more than twice as much vitamin C. Kale provides twice as much C than an orange too, plus it is a great source of vitamins A, K, and has lots of phytonutrients. If there is one thing you want to have in your juice, it's Kale. Also for those that don't like oranges, strawberries (one serving) have more vitamin C too.
Any comment on the cost of this diet? Seems like blending fresh fruit every day would get expensive?
ehhhh depends. I mean really you don't need a ton of ingredients, many are reused for other recipes. for instance cucumber can be used in many different ones. if you go to a place like sprouts and shop the sales you can do so pretty cheaply. the issue I have is my job. its 12 hours of standing and high stress and I don't think juice would cut it all day. if I had a more laid back job or an office job id probably give it a go. cutting out carbs for a week or two works well but I wouldn't recommend it as a diet during the summer, you end up taking in more fat and heavier foods and its not good when its 90 degrees out. decent option for wanting to shed 10 lbs of winter weight though.
Any comment on the cost of this diet? Seems like blending fresh fruit every day would get expensive?
That was our biggest draw back... It cost me about $15 a day in veggies. I didn't really juice fruit. That was just for me, the wife spent whatever on herself... didn't keep track of her. So, ya, that is the draw back, it's pricy.
I wonder the difference between say, juicing, and just blending (ie making smoothies).
You will find with juicing, that you will feel the best you have ever felt. I've never heard anyone say anything less. It doesn't matter what you work (one friend is a Derek Hand), this works well as your body is at peak performance, literally. How can anyone who knows what they are talking about say that juicing which floods your body with everything that it needs, is unhealthy? I will say that if you don't have stored fat (which contains all the energy it needs), then a straight juice diet is a bad idea. However, if you have lots of weight, you have nothing to lose, and there is absolute nothing out there stated by anyone but ignorant skeptics that can make a legitimate claim that juicing is bad, and for overweight people, bad for long stretches. Fat *has all the calories your body needs, it also contains vitamins, and nutrients, not all, but a lot. And as I stated earlier, the ones that it doesn't contain, you can get from veggies, and spirulina, and bee pollen as an additive to your juice (B12 & protein).
I wonder the difference between say, juicing, and just blending (ie making smoothies).
The thing about juicing is that it breaks the plant down more. Makes it a lot easier for your body to break down the good stuff. Juicing is about efficiency when it comes down to it. Also, you get a full dose of fiber that your body needs too, it's just not in massive things that you need to chew up, but it's still there. You get a lot more vitamins and nutrients with juice because one cup of straight juice, has a lot more than one cup of blended veggies. One cup to one cup of each, and you will get about three times or more from the cup with juice because you're not throwing in all of the fiberous stuff your body isn't going to break down or absorb anyway.
You can take the "leftovers" that juicing will leave, and season it and put it in your dehydrator, make chips & stuff....
If you do the juice thing right, you should feel almost crappy for the first two or three days as your body detoxes. You will shit a lot also, liquid shit.... it all goes away though, and you feel better than you have ever felt before.
K, gota go now....
Sounds like you should be able to still be active with this diet then. My biggest concern would be having energy to run/jog/swim on the occasions that I actually do so. Sounds like all the stuff you need to run your body is present though.
blacklabel
07-06-2013, 16:24
I'm 6'3 295 right now. My lightest with exercise and eating paleo is 263 over the last 8 years. I'm on board with using a 60 day juice fast to reset, cut a good majority of the weight I need to lose and build back in healthy habits.
How do you guys handle work lunches? I'm assuming the juice does well in a fridge.
Sounds like you should be able to still be active with this diet then. My biggest concern would be having energy to run/jog/swim on the occasions that I actually do so. Sounds like all the stuff you need to run your body is present though.
Um, ya. You can be very active. Think about it... You are giving your body more than it can ever need (as far as nutrition goes). As long as you have the calories on you (fat), you can do whatever you wanted. I will guarantee that everyone on this forum would get something out of juicing. Of course, till they try it, or have someone extremely close to them do it so they could see first hand how it affects them, it's hard to believe. Stuving, I think you will actually do this, watch "The Gerson Method". It's really boring, I warn you, but has useful information that I think you would like.
I'm 6'3 295 right now. My lightest with exercise and eating paleo is 263 over the last 8 years. I'm on board with using a 60 day juice fast to reset, cut a good majority of the weight I need to lose and build back in healthy habits.
How do you guys handle work lunches? I'm assuming the juice does well in a fridge.
I juiced a lot at one time, and stored what I didn't drink in air tight containers. You pour the juice in whichever container you use (you can use multiple containers to fit your lifestyle), pour it up to the lid, as close as you can, and seal it. The taste will last for about 10 hours, after that even in an air tight container, it starts reacting to the air that is already inside the juice from the extruding/pouring, and will taste like it is going bad. The enzymes react to the air (how an apple goes brown after being bitten), and to each other the moment the vegetable gets juiced and poured out of the machine. Many people will say that juice enzymes (which are an important part of this) go bad after several minutes of being extruded. This is not true, and there is no scientific fact to this. I also personally (researched this topic a lot before subjecting my wife and I to this) contacted many bio-tech companies, many that deal specifically with enzymes, and every one said that there was no truth to what people were saying about enzymes. < Just wanted to let some know about the BS you will find on the internets....
blacklabel
07-06-2013, 16:44
Another question, what do you guys consider a portion or meal? How important is portion control?
Stuving, I think you will actually do this, watch "The Gerson Method". It's really boring, I warn you, but has useful information that I think you would like.
I was going to watch the other movie. I have a friend that was over weight and was told he'd have to take pills the rest of his life. He went vegan and now looks great and is on zero meds.
Another question, what do you guys consider a portion or meal? How important is portion control?
I made a gallon, and drank it throughout the day and night. I made it in the morning, and finished it by bed time. Also, lots of water...
I was going to watch the other movie. I have a friend that was over weight and was told he'd have to take pills the rest of his life. He went vegan and now looks great and is on zero meds.
Watch them both. If you want to watch something strictly on the medical benefits, watch "The Gerson Method" < I might be spelling Gerson wrong... Anyway, FS&ND is a lot more entertaining, but is about only a couple cases of where a change of diet helped these two guys... The other one is about helping out thousands, thousands of people with an insanely high cure ratio. Like my wife's mother said (she's a doctor), if everyone cured themselves with juice, she and the others would be out of a job......
I juiced a lot at one time, and stored what I didn't drink in air tight containers. You pour the juice in whichever container you use (you can use multiple containers to fit your lifestyle), pour it up to the lid, as close as you can, and seal it. The taste will last for about 10 hours, after that even in an air tight container, it starts reacting to the air that is already inside the juice from the extruding/pouring, and will taste like it is going bad. The enzymes react to the air (how an apple goes brown after being bitten), and to each other the moment the vegetable gets juiced and poured out of the machine. Many people will say that juice enzymes (which are an important part of this) go bad after several minutes of being extruded. This is not true, and there is no scientific fact to this. I also personally (researched this topic a lot before subjecting my wife and I to this) contacted many bio-tech companies, many that deal specifically with enzymes, and every one said that there was no truth to what people were saying about enzymes. < Just wanted to let some know about the BS you will find on the internets....
How would one do this on a construction site? Plug juicer into temp power?
How would one do this on a construction site? Plug juicer into temp power?
Juice in the morning, take airtight container of juice with you to work, or two. Remember water. Everything can fit in a cooler. I feel sorry for you, you going to be visiting the porta john a lot.
Juice in the morning, take airtight container of juice with you to work, or two. Remember water. Everything can fit in a cooler. I feel sorry for you, you going to be visiting the porta john a lot.
[LOL] Think I will wait until I am at the office bidding jobs for a few days.
Juice in the morning, take airtight container of juice with you to work, or two. Remember water. Everything can fit in a cooler. I feel sorry for you, you going to be visiting the porta john a lot.
I was lucky man. I visited the bathroom a lot the first day & then I've been good to go since.
For those of you that want some quick info, you can watch a decent movie on it called Fat Sick & Nearly Dead here:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/289122
You can also watch a movie called "The Gerson Miracle" that is long, and full of information, but really boring... Here:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/gerson-miracle/
I was lucky man. I visited the bathroom a lot the first day & then I've been good to go since.
Not me... I've done it twice now, and each time, I had the shits for a few days.... The second time I did it, I gave in, I remember Taco Bell callin out for me.... I'll do it again though. Just waiting on better income.
Remember, the first 10-12 lbs is easy. After that, it gets harder. I did mine by eating 'every other day' for a couple weeks, lost 1lb day. You need to change the way and what you eat, staying away from GMO crap is top of the line, and learning to love veggies is second. Stay away from bread, learn to make your own soup, and I use popcorn and carrots as snack foods, but I love popcorn, I do use canola stuff and cheese. You have to change what you eat to keep it off. And not go on a binge eating spree for whatever reason. Difficult at best.
Remember: If you don't BUY CRAP, you can't EAT CRAP!
And no fast food either! EVER!
Remember, the first 10-12 lbs is easy. After that, it gets harder. I did mine by eating 'every other day' for a couple weeks, lost 1lb day. You need to change the way and what you eat, staying away from GMO crap is top of the line, and learning to love veggies is second. Stay away from bread, learn to make your own soup, and I use popcorn and carrots as snack foods, but I love popcorn, I do use canola stuff and cheese. You have to change what you eat to keep it off. And not go on a binge eating spree for whatever reason. Difficult at best.
Remember: If you don't BUY CRAP, you can't EAT CRAP!
And no fast food either! EVER!
If any are willing, it's all easy. Staying away from GMO is good, but not a killer to the deal. I did mine on a budget, and to stay on that budget, I didn't buy any organics... Would it have been better if I did... ya, but it isn't a killer to the deal in any way. If these guys want to do the actual "reset", there is no eating. When it's done right, it's not hard at all to keep the weight off either. It took several months of shitty eating and fast food to gain my first pound back. I did it right though. As everything else, there is a right way to get the desired results, and there are other ways to get similar results, but the outcome will only be just that, similar.
Favorite things to juice?
My favorite thing of all time was the skittle drink... It was very healthy, but provided lots of natural sugars, so didn't help with the weight loss thing all that much.
Juice until you get 3 cups of liquid from carrots
5 apples
half a bushel of parsley
1 1/2 lemons
1 inch of ginger
The drink tastes exactly like a hand full of skittles. I can't remember the exact amount of carrots to be honest (haven't made it in a while). I'm pretty sure it was 3 cups though. The carrots are the base as you can see. I know the rest of the ingredients are correct, just wondering about the carrots.... If it is too sweet they way I have it listed above, add more carrot juice.... maybe I made 5 cups..... damn.......... Anyway, start with the above, add more carrots as needed.
Day two on juices only - so far so good..
My favorite thing of all time was the skittle drink... It was very healthy, but provided lots of natural sugars, so didn't help with the weight loss thing all that much.
Juice until you get 3 cups of liquid from carrots
5 apples
half a bushel of parsley
1 1/2 lemons
1 inch of ginger
The drink tastes exactly like a hand full of skittles. I can't remember the exact amount of carrots to be honest (haven't made it in a while). I'm pretty sure it was 3 cups though. The carrots are the base as you can see. I know the rest of the ingredients are correct, just wondering about the carrots.... If it is too sweet they way I have it listed above, add more carrot juice.... maybe I made 5 cups..... damn.......... Anyway, start with the above, add more carrots as needed.
Will try this tonight.
Day two on juices only - so far so good..
Well That was fast.
Well That was fast.
Yeap. Yesterday was kinda tough... I wanted to kill someone....
Day two on juices only - so far so good..
Nice man. You been tracking your weight? As of this morning I'm officially an even 14lbs lighter than I was Monday morning. [rockon]
Yeap. Yesterday was kinda tough... I wanted to kill someone....
Really? I haven't experienced anything like that. I was tired of the food commercials but that was about it. My wife said I was a little bit cranky on I think it was day 4 but I feel like I had a valid reason and I would have been just as cranky on Taco Bell. [LOL]
You will find with juicing, that you will feel the best you have ever felt. I've never heard anyone say anything less. It doesn't matter what you work (one friend is a Derek Hand), this works well as your body is at peak performance, literally. How can anyone who knows what they are talking about say that juicing which floods your body with everything that it needs, is unhealthy? I will say that if you don't have stored fat (which contains all the energy it needs), then a straight juice diet is a bad idea. However, if you have lots of weight, you have nothing to lose, and there is absolute nothing out there stated by anyone but ignorant skeptics that can make a legitimate claim that juicing is bad, and for overweight people, bad for long stretches. Fat *has all the calories your body needs, it also contains vitamins, and nutrients, not all, but a lot. And as I stated earlier, the ones that it doesn't contain, you can get from veggies, and spirulina, and bee pollen as an additive to your juice (B12 & protein).Curious, are you a nutritionist, or a doctor? And aren't you worried about liability delving out advice without seeing the patient in person first?
Yeap. Yesterday was kinda tough... I wanted to kill someone....
Ya... food is a hell of an addiction.......
Curious, are you a nutritionist, or a doctor? And aren't you worried about liability delving out advice without seeing the patient in person first?
I'm not either. I just happen to know a lot about this subject, and the way the body works (in specific functions *i.e. a lot about a little, and a little about a lot). Wife has a degree in nutrition, mother in law is a doctor, and the last roommate I had I helped him study to become a doctor... Oh, and a background in Biotech helps a little (just schooling, no actual job).
I am not scared of offering helpful advice. If someone is allergic to something like lets say, tomatoes, then I expect them to be smart enough to not put tomatoes in the juice.
Nice man. You been tracking your weight? As of this morning I'm officially an even 14lbs lighter than I was Monday morning. [rockon]
Nice! I weighted myself yesterday morning. Will see if there's any changes tonight.
Nice! I weighted myself yesterday morning. Will see if there's any changes tonight.
It's best to weigh yourself at the same time each morning. Trying to weigh yourself in the morning and then again at night might make you pull your hair out since you tend to gain a few pounds during the course of the day as you take your water weight back on. I get up in the morning, take a squirt and then weigh myself. Same routing yields consistent results.
Curious, are you a nutritionist, or a doctor? And aren't you worried about liability delving out advice without seeing the patient in person first?
Also, this is an internet forum. People can take my word for what it is, I hope they do their own research on the subject also. I will not lead anyone on, I have nothing to gain here other than the satisfaction that I get to help some fellow members. I am offering out so much, because I have done so much of the research already, and I'm very much so a person that looks at the "facts", and then who published the "facts" to see if they are actually legit. The bad thing about this subject, is that you can find as much negative stuff on the internet, as you can find positive. You actually have to look up the sources, and in many cases, sources site sources that site a couple other sources that end up being just someone's opinion. There were a few times when the list of sources was so long (I think it was with specific enzymes that help your body process a specific amino acid) that I just gave up and looked up another one on the same subject.
Nice! I weighted myself yesterday morning. Will see if there's any changes tonight.
It's best to weigh yourself at the same time each morning. Trying to weigh yourself in the morning and then again at night might make you pull your hair out since you tend to gain a few pounds during the course of the day as you take your water weight back on. I get up in the morning, take a squirt and then weigh myself. Same routing yields consistent results.
The best time, is when you have to go shopping for new clothes because what you have is too baggy, and you look ridiculous.
yeah people read and put to use information from the internet at their own risk. the people posting it don't retain liability, especially when not an expert. you're just giving your experience nothing wrong with that.
Also, this is an internet forum. People can take my word for what it is, I hope they do their own research on the subject also. I will not lead anyone on, I have nothing to gain here other than the satisfaction that I get to help some fellow members. I am offering out so much, because I have done so much of the research already, and I'm very much so a person that looks at the "facts", and then who published the "facts" to see if they are actually legit. The bad thing about this subject, is that you can find as much negative stuff on the internet, as you can find positive. You actually have to look up the sources, and in many cases, sources site sources that site a couple other sources that end up being just someone's opinion. There were a few times when the list of sources was so long (I think it was with specific enzymes that help your body process a specific amino acid) that I just gave up and looked up another one on the same subject.
i dont want to go off topic here (which means i sort of am). Ive never researched an all juice diet, but it sounds interesting. OP after you try the juice diet you might want to research intermittent fasting (Fast and Feast). I did a 16hr off 8hr on for 3 months and lost 60lbs. Good part is you get to eat food :)
i used this site: leangains.com for most of my resource information. awesome job at wanting to stay healthy!
Day two on juices only - so far so good..
How do you feel?
bigshane
07-07-2013, 13:27
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half a bushel of parsley
Wow, that sounds like a lot of parsley
Wow, that sounds like a lot of parsley
You don't get much juice from it or cilantro.
i dont want to go off topic here (which means i sort of am). Ive never researched an all juice diet, but it sounds interesting. OP after you try the juice diet you might want to research intermittent fasting (Fast and Feast). I did a 16hr off 8hr on for 3 months and lost 60lbs. Good part is you get to eat food :)
i used this site: leangains.com for most of my resource information. awesome job at wanting to stay healthy!
We did it, well my wife did it strictly for health reason. She had chronic hives, and steroids were starting to lose their effect (she searched a cure for chronic hives and found FS&ND). I did it for a couple reasons also. I did it mainly as support for her (as even with what I read, I was skeptical), although I was hopeful because of a few things that I would have liked cleared up. It helped us both out tremendously in the end, and now I am a complete believer.
thats awesome! I'll be watching this thread as well. Bravo for supporting the better half!
Okay, we watch FSAND tonight. This would really be a challenge for me, but I/we are interested in trying a ten day. Us supporting each other will be the greatest hurdle. I have a hard time even eating left overs sometimes, just because it is the same food twice. From what I'm seeing, it seems like the first five days are the most difficult. I was thinking I could start on a Thursday or Friday to have the best chance at feeling normal by the next work week. Inspiring thread so far.
Okay, we watch FSAND tonight. This would really be a challenge for me, but I/we are interested in trying a ten day. Us supporting each other will be the greatest hurdle. I have a hard time even eating left overs sometimes, just because it is the same food twice. From what I'm seeing, it seems like the first five days are the most difficult. I was thinking I could start on a Thursday or Friday to have the best chance at feeling normal by the next work week. Inspiring thread so far.
I would recommend starting Friday morning. That way you have the weekend to get over the detox. Come Monday, you should feel fantastic.
I'm gona jump on this again...
blacklabel
07-08-2013, 08:43
Screw it. I'm starting today. It's not like I need to be 100% at work anyways.
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Day 3! Minus 5lb! So far so good!
OP, thanks for inspiration!
Feeling better yet Dr_Fwd? I just had some Naked Juice for breakfast and have been watching the clock for lunch time since I got in. I'll eat a salad.
blacklabel
07-08-2013, 09:44
I had a Naked Juice at 6 and am feeling pretty good. No hungrier than I would usually feel. I'll be having another for lunch and then pick up a juicer after work.
This morning is officially one week since I started. As of weigh-in this morning I've lost 15.4lbs and I feel great. The heart burn issues seem to have subsided since getting back on my heart burn meds and I'm slowly figured out how much juice I need to drink. I'm thinking I may have been drinking too much juice so I will still continue trying to feel this out. The few flavors available to me of the Blothouse Farms juices are starting to taste not as good so I need to get my hands on a juicer so I can start adding in more variety otherwise I may start to dislike these. Clothes are fitting better and I can start to see a difference and I like the direction this is headed. The foods I miss most are Chinese food, sushi & BBQ with a shorter craving for Mexican food every now and then. It hasn't been too bad though overall and I'm looking forward to continuing this until I'm a healthier version of myself.
Feeling better yet Dr_Fwd? I just had some Naked Juice for breakfast and have been watching the clock for lunch time since I got in. I'll eat a salad.
Feels pretty good. For me the toughest time is evening, I feel so freaking hungry every evening. .. will see how it goes today.
Oh, and I'm doing juices and water only, no other food.
The best time, is when you have to go shopping for new clothes because what you have is too baggy, and you look ridiculous.
I had some t-shirts that I wore regularly that I'm not swimming in & the ones I had that were too tight to wear are now the ones I wear. These are all shirts with the same size on the tag. Pretty soon I'll be getting out the old boxes of smaller sizes I put away as I got fat and seeing what fits and still looks decent. Once I get settled on a weight I can shop for some new stuff which will be great since there's a bunch of shirts I want to order right now but I really wouldn't know what size to even order. Last thing I want is to buy something I can only get a month out of. These are good problems to have. [rockon]
yeah people read and put to use information from the internet at their own risk. the people posting it don't retain liability, especially when not an expert. you're just giving your experience nothing wrong with that.
Someone earlier commented on the fact that Spyder isn't a doctor to be qualified to give out advice. I don't subscribe to this at all. In my personal experience and that of a LOT of people I know this 'expert' advice hasn't been very helpful in terms of overall health at all. In fact, most are quick to prescribe prescriptions and tack more on to combat the side-effects those create rather than saying... you need to lose weight. Doctors have become a larger source of skepticism for me lately than someone on the internet who has been through the same thing I'm going through.
i dont want to go off topic here (which means i sort of am). Ive never researched an all juice diet, but it sounds interesting. OP after you try the juice diet you might want to research intermittent fasting (Fast and Feast). I did a 16hr off 8hr on for 3 months and lost 60lbs. Good part is you get to eat food :)
i used this site: leangains.com for most of my resource information. awesome job at wanting to stay healthy!
That sounds awesome but I'm also worried about cholesterol, hardening arteries and overall health in conjunction with weight loss. On top of that this juice fast is what is helping me to get away from food entirely for a short period to try to break the bad habits and cravings I have. It seems this diet might not be as healthy of an avenue but I will certainly research and consider it.
Screw it. I'm starting today. It's not like I need to be 100% at work anyways.
Atta boy! You'll be glad you did in no time at all.
Day 3! Minus 5lb! So far so good!
OP, thanks for inspiration!
Nice work! Heck, if a few other people end up getting healthier due to motivation created in part of this discussion then that's a pretty good feeling.
I had a Naked Juice at 6 and am feeling pretty good. No hungrier than I would usually feel. I'll be having another for lunch and then pick up a juicer after work.
The nerves inside the body or different than the ones on the outside of the body. This is why heartburn can mimic heart attack symptoms and vice versa. Your hunger can also be quenched with liquids the same as solids so lots of time you hear people say that if you are hungry between meals drink some water and the hunger should subside. What I've discovered is that when you're 100% on liquids the 'full' feeling is slightly different. It's a feeling I'm still adjusting too because I think sometimes I'm drinking more juice than I need to. You still crave food too but those cravings change over time and get better... well, in my personal limited experience anyway and what I've read backs this experience up.
hghclsswhitetrsh
07-08-2013, 10:53
Delete.
Feels pretty good. For me the toughest time is evening, I feel so freaking hungry every evening. .. will see how it goes today.
Oh, and I'm doing juices and water only, no other food.
Yeah, I think evenings were harder for me but a big part of that is my wife would bring home food, cook food or re-heat food and the smells were intense even with the most bland of food. Heck, she grabbed a Caesar salad on her way home from work and ate it next to me outside with a breeze and even with all that I could smell and taste every single ingredient in the thing. I don't even like Caesar salads and I wanted to dive into that damn thing. The cravings are weird and commercials and smelling food will trigger them.
I don't think a juice diet is the way to go. For instance I ate 1200-1400 calories(good calories not 4 cheeseburgers) per day and exercised 2-3 hours per day. I cut 20 pounds in 2 weeks for a jiu jitsu competition. You have to exercise, even if you just walk.
I wish you guys all the luck in the world. Keep up the hard work!
If you're the type of person who does this sort of thing then this diet isn't for you. My life is such that even if I could control my food cravings and what I take in there's no way I could work out 2-3hrs per day with my life currently the way it is. It just wouldn't work. I'm happy that that works for you and agree that it's a healthier way but it's not the only path to being healthier.
hghclsswhitetrsh
07-08-2013, 11:05
Delete.
I understand Jer and please don't think I'm bagging on you or the juice diet. I am in no way shape for form a dietician, however I look at longevity of the diet. If you lose xx amount of weight in x amount of time and you're satisfied with where you are how are you going to keep it off? In my mind if a person learns to eat properly and maybe loses the weight at a slower pace, you will already know how to eat right.
Do you have a treadmill? Can you wake up 20 minutes earlier and just walk on it before your day starts? Can you watch the news in the evening walking on the treadmill? If so bam that's almost an hour of nice slow pace exercise for ye ol ticker.
Again I can of stress to you how much I'm not trying to critique or judge or whatever, just wanna throw some ideas and food for thought.
Also - when I went from 2000+ calories a day to 1200-1400 I was not hungry often. But when I was I used gena-slim which is a hunger suppressor.
Best of luck my friends!
I think you should read post #38 of this thread, particularly the last paragraph. I think if you read that you will see why the basis of your post doesn't work for everyone.
I have said numerous times now that my life doesn't allow it and believe me when I say this. I've been a work-out nut in the past and have MADE the time when I didn't have it. I'm an only child of a single mother who's cancer has taken a turn for the worse recently. Anyone who has been in these shoes knows that being a care giver (or the only one in my case) is an all-consuming thing and you can't plan for anything. If I had a normal 9-5 job at an office I'm not sure I would even have it anymore. Couple that with a dog that we rescued that was a mill dog and as a result she has some special needs. One of the behavior experts we're working with (yeah, one.. that's how bad she is) said she's a 0.01% dog with her set of issues. The shortened version of this is that she can't be left alone unless I throw them in the back yard. Depending on weather this is incredibly unpredictable. I can't crate her and I can't leave her alone in the house (again, I could go into detail but we're already WAY off topic) so my ability to leave the house to do anything is limited and is usually spent taking my mother to and from doctor appointments & emergency rooms and what not. So, when I am at home it's not like I can just put all of these things on hold and go run on a treadmill for an hour even if I could control my diet which is more critical to over-all health and I've explained why in post #38, last paragraph.
I understand where you're coming from but like I said, you're trying to force a square peg into a round hole by putting your present situation on others and wondering why they just can't do what you do. I know because a decade ago I was the one telling people to make time and work out all the time and just eat better and.... I get it. But everyone is different and their circumstances are also different. I'm trying desperately to keep this thread on track and not bring my personal issues into the conversation because nobody cares about that. It would be much easier if some people would realize that not everyone's life fits what they picture and simply trusts when I say that this is the most healthy thing I can do right now. It's working well thus far and research indicates that side-effects are minimal if any. The hope is that this two months will buy me some time to where things can get a little more situated in my life and I am able to eat better and work out more and all of the above.
This thread is about juice dieting though so let's just keep the conversation to that. If you wanted to start a BJJ or other topic thread you can discuss those things there and I'm sure I may follow for research purposes and who knows, if/when my life changes to where I do have 2-3hrs (hell, even a half hour would be nice) to devote per day maybe I will take that hobby up. Right now it's simply not int he cards.
Ultimately I'm healthier today than I was 1 week ago so it's hard to argue with results.
I read a book about it by some quack (self described and proud of it) convinced me to try it. I lasted 3 days.
Good job and keep it up.
Just curious about using a juicer - what do you do with the leftover material after the juice is extracted? Or is there even much left? Never been around one before, all I can relate to is an orange squeezer thing for making orange juice. Just seems like there would be a lot of pulpy material leftover - and do you have to add any water to create a quantity of juice? Or is it all right out of the food?
Just curious about using a juicer - what do you do with the leftover material after the juice is extracted? Or is there even much left? Never been around one before, all I can relate to is an orange squeezer thing for making orange juice. Just seems like there would be a lot of pulpy material leftover - and do you have to add any water to create a quantity of juice? Or is it all right out of the food?
For purposes of this diet you would simply discard the fibrous material left over after juicing. What you want is the juice because that's where the highest concentration of vitamins & nutrients are which is what you're after with this diet. Once you're done you can use those leftovers for many things including making things like healthy snack chips and stuff. You won't need to add water to any of the juice as it's tasty just as it sits. Real juice before all the big $ corporations got a hold of the idea of juice and ruined it.
Ate a salad from Wal-mart and bought a bag of cherries. The salad had chicken, croutons, cheese, and dressing.
I haven't officially started, but no reason to not eat healthier in the mean time.
Ate a salad from Wal-mart and bought a bag of cherries. The salad had chicken, croutons, cheese, and dressing.
I haven't officially started, but no reason to not eat healthier in the mean time.
I don't think you need to lose weight, unless you've become fat since our last meeting.
Ate a salad from Wal-mart and bought a bag of cherries. The salad had chicken, croutons, cheese, and dressing.
I haven't officially started, but no reason to not eat healthier in the mean time.
It's funny you saw that because the few days leading up to this I was making better decisions about what I ate and part of me was like.... there, 'I'll just eat better' but I knew it wouldn't last and I proceeded with the juice diet as planned. I feel like this is making a change in my life to where I can't help but make better decisions once I'm done. Without some sort of a big life change I knew it wasn't going to stick.
I don't think you need to lose weight, unless you've become fat since our last meeting.
I've put on a good 25 lbs since I was in decent shape. Pretty much all of it on my stomach. I want it gone.
I've put on a bad 25 lbs since I was in decent shape. Pretty much all of it on my stomach. I want it gone.
Fixed that for you. [Flower]
How much juice are you guys drinking in a day?
How much juice are you guys drinking in a day?
I don't have a quantifiable answer for you. I'm guessing on the order of 6-8 8oz glasses per day but I don't measure out and just drink whenever I feel hungry. Other than that I'm drinking water pretty much all day. I've seen some that have you measuring stuff out and are real strict about guidelines and I don't doubt that's ideal but so far I've done fine just winging it and listening to my body.
Also, if you think that the Naked, or Bolthouse juices are the same, they are not, not even close. They might have a lot of some really good ingredients, but as you can read, they pasturize it which breaks down, and makes a lot of the nutrients, vitamins, and enzymes worthless to your body (kinda kills the whole idea). That is why you see vitamin C added to a lot of stuff, because pasturizing it actually breaks down the vitamin C to a useless amount of nothing, and they have to add it all over again (like orange juice). If it is pasturized, don't do a juice fast with it, I'm not saying it is bad, because I don't know... What I do know, is that all of the natural vitamins, nutrients, and enzymes < important* that makes this fast what it is known for, are mostly not in store bought juices in the quantity needed, if at all....... All you are doing with the store bought juices, is starving your body of calories, which ya, will make you still drop weight fast, but it isn't even as close to being as healthy for you as a fresh, natural juice fast. I want to throw that out there right now...........
Are you guys juicing organic or regular grocery store stuff?
Are you guys juicing organic or regular grocery store stuff?
Right now I'm just drinking juices by Bolthouse Farms.
blacklabel
07-08-2013, 18:41
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My first home juiced drink. It's Joe Cross's Mean Green recipe.
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My first home juiced drink. It's Joe Cross's Mean Green recipe.
Which juicer do you have?
hollohas
07-08-2013, 18:55
I didn't read all this but let me see if I have this straight. Is this a 122 post thread on DIETS in a gun forum?
[fag]
I kid, I kid. Kudos to you folks who are making healthy lifestyle changes.
I didn't read all this but let me see if I have this straight. Is this a 122 post thread on DIETS in a gun forum?
[fag]
I kid, I kid. Kudos to you folks who are making healthy lifestyle changes.
I want to look fabulous.
blacklabel
07-08-2013, 19:08
Which juicer do you have?
Here's a link to it. It's been rated second best behind a $300 Beville unit.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hamilton-Beach-Big-Mouth-Juice-Extractor/11317141
For purposes of this diet you would simply discard the fibrous material left over after juicing. What you want is the juice because that's where the highest concentration of vitamins & nutrients are which is what you're after with this diet. Once you're done you can use those leftovers for many things including making things like healthy snack chips and stuff. You won't need to add water to any of the juice as it's tasty just as it sits. Real juice before all the big $ corporations got a hold of the idea of juice and ruined it.
I was wondering about adding water because I don't have any idea how much juice can actually be made from things. Thought maybe water would "fluff it up" a little. And is there a reason to NOT consume the leftovers? Just trying to get a grasp of this.
You can add a little bit of water to 'stretch it out' but over like 1/10th or so and you can make the flavor go watery. But you really need to change your diet to keep it off. You can't go back to eating 3000 calories a day and not gain it back. Do a thread on vegi-cooking, because that is what you are going to need for a large part of your diet.
JM Ver. 2.0
07-08-2013, 21:29
The other one has info. This one is for those of us that are going to do it to share our progress. Ask questions in the other thread. Keep this one for sharing progress.
I'm starting tomorrow. I'm sitting at 270-280 on a daily basis.
Going to start this up tomorrow with some store bought stuff until I can buy a juicer.
Here's a link to it. It's been rated second best behind a $300 Beville unit.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hamilton-Beach-Big-Mouth-Juice-Extractor/11317141
It made it up to second? Wow... I thought third was good!
10mm-man
07-08-2013, 21:35
The other one has info. This one is for those of us that are going to do it to share our progress. Ask questions in the other thread. Keep this one for sharing progress.
I'm starting tomorrow. I'm sitting at 270-280 on a daily basis.
Going to start this up tomorrow with some store bought stuff until I can buy a juicer.
Good Luck!! I think out of all the diets, it's the hardest... Guess the last part belonged in the other thread, as well as this sentence.
JM Ver. 2.0
07-08-2013, 21:35
I made a new thread for the people doing this diet. I'm going to start tomorrow.
USAFGopherMike
07-08-2013, 21:49
You don't know what your talking about. Where do you get the information that your body processing body fat is unhealthy for it? You are not starving your body of anything that it needs to survive other than the nutrients you can give it through juicing. Eating fruits and vegies is not better for you either.... You don't gain anything from eating it, compared to juicing it. You do however gain more by juicing. You can fit 4 or 5 apples by size into a cup, as equally as one. In the juice form, you body can easily break it down and doesn't have to deal with the fiberous material from eating the actual fruit, so it can use the energy more efficiently to break down the items in your stomach (juice). As long as you are smart with it and supplement a couple items that vegetables can account for like B12, and protein (which I've already discussed), juicing is perfectly healthy for you, even in long stints. It will be the most healthy thing (food wise) anyone can do (as long as you have body fat to supplement your calorie needs).
I'm not going to argue w/ dietary "experts". I'll just say that I've worked with dieticians, personal trainers, and used to compete. Also lost a friend to addiction and obesity who did this same diet under a doctor's care along with many other diets before having surgery. I never said I was against juicing, I believe it's healthy. To say I don't know what I'm talking about is ignorant, but YHARTYO. I understand how the body burns different types of glycogen stores and know what you're getting at with fat burn. When your body cuts straight to fat vice carb sources, it can also cause the body to go into self protection mode (at a certain point which is different for everybody) and store vs burn fats which in turn can cause it to source muscle. All things in moderation is all I was getting at. I wish you the best of luck OP.
USAFGopherMike
07-08-2013, 22:49
JM and others, could you post up your favorite recipes as you go?
The other one has info. This one is for those of us that are going to do it to share our progress. Ask questions in the other thread. Keep this one for sharing progress.
I'm starting tomorrow. I'm sitting at 270-280 on a daily basis.
Going to start this up tomorrow with some store bought stuff until I can buy a juicer.
Do well buddy.
270-280 That's where I'm sittin also, must be monky's favorite size...... lol
blacklabel
07-09-2013, 06:21
Day 1
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 293.5
Current Weight: 292.2
Had 2 Naked Juices during the day and about 24oz of my home juice last night. Haven't had any real hunger pains and no crazy detox yet. I'm expecting that to start today.
Whole Foods has a juice bar. They put about 3 pounds of fresh vegetables in the juicer to make you a pint glass for $5.99.
12 oz is $4.99, and a giant 24 oz is only $7.99.
Word of caution . . . if they juice some beets you'll start pissing red.
Whole Foods has a juice bar. They put about 3 pounds of fresh vegetables in the juicer to make you a pint glass for $5.99.
12 oz is $4.99, and a giant 24 oz is only $7.99.
Word of caution . . . if they juice some beets you'll start pissing red.
This is a great tip for those on-the-go and I wasn't aware they did that. Thanks!
Why did we need a second thread? I can tell you that both of these threads will end up discussing the exact same topics and it's just going to fragment the conversation. Do we need TWO juicing threads on a gun forum?
JM Ver. 2.0
07-09-2013, 12:39
Why did we need a second thread? I can tell you that both of these threads will end up discussing the exact same topics and it's just going to fragment the conversation. Do we need TWO juicing threads on a gun forum?
Because there's a bunch of bullshit and shit talking in the other one. This isn't a place for that. This is for the ones doing it.
If you're not doing it, GTFO.
Sent from my teepee using smoke signals.
blacklabel
07-09-2013, 12:43
Because there's a bunch of bullshit and shit talking in the other one. This isn't a place for that. This is for the ones doing it.
If you're not doing it, GTFO.
Sent from my teepee using smoke signals.
Haha, he's the one that started the other thread and inspired me to do it.
Infighting among juice fasting guys on a gun forum. Awesome.
blacklabel
07-09-2013, 13:05
I was originally planning on a 30 day, possibly 60 if things went well, fast but I've got a wedding that I'm in the middle of August and bachelor party the first week of August. A 30 day fast wouldn't give me time to work in solid food again before all you can eat meet twice in one week so I'm going to do a 15 day fast and then work in whole vegetables and lean meats for dinner while juicing breakfast and lunch.
Hopefully I'll be able to do a full 30 day fast after the wedding.
I was originally planning on a 30 day, possibly 60 if things went well, fast but I've got a wedding that I'm in the middle of August and bachelor party the first week of August. A 30 day fast wouldn't give me time to work in solid food again before all you can eat meet twice in one week so I'm going to do a 15 day fast and then work in whole vegetables and lean meats for dinner while juicing breakfast and lunch.
Hopefully I'll be able to do a full 30 day fast after the wedding.
There's always an excuse if you want one. Not hatin' just sayin'.
blacklabel
07-09-2013, 13:23
There's always an excuse if you want one. Not hatin' just sayin'.
I deserve that and I honestly would rather just finish the 30 days.
JM Ver. 2.0
07-09-2013, 13:24
Haha, he's the one that started the other thread and inspired me to do it.
Infighting among juice fasting guys on a gun forum. Awesome.
That part wasn't directed at him.
Sent from my teepee using smoke signals.
This is more of a smoothie recipe but maybe you juicers can adapt it. My wife and I drink it several times a week for the nutrients.
Cup of coconut water
1 banana
3 pineapple spears (1x2x5)
4 kale leaves
couple handfuls of ice
This makes two glasses of smoothie we have at dinner. The fruit flavor blends well with the kale. Good luck to those that are trying to get healthy.
I deserve that and I honestly would rather just finish the 30 days.
Then just do it man! [Beer]
I've had plenty of excuses including the in-laws driving here from Nebraska to take my to my birthday dinner... anywhere I wanted. My birthday was January but the weather was bad so they couldn't drive down. They drove down the day after the 4th of July and I had to watch my wife leave with them while I sat at home drinking juice. If I can do that you can do it too.
jerrymrc
07-09-2013, 15:27
Too many have "Juice" on the brain. Next will be the "Original Juice" thread and people will be talking about Mr Simpson.....
I found some recipes I will post up shortly. Right now I'm craving some spicy V8 and I found a couple of recipes that I'm going to try. If you Google you will see the ones I've seen and feel free to try them and report back. I also saw one for a juice drink that tastes just like a handful of Skittles that sounds good too. I'll post back once I get my hands on a juicer and start making some of these.
I was originally planning on a 30 day, possibly 60 if things went well, fast but I've got a wedding that I'm in the middle of August and bachelor party the first week of August. A 30 day fast wouldn't give me time to work in solid food again before all you can eat meet twice in one week so I'm going to do a 15 day fast and then work in whole vegetables and lean meats for dinner while juicing breakfast and lunch.
Hopefully I'll be able to do a full 30 day fast after the wedding.
You can do three weeks, you can do it right up till you eat again also. It isn't going to hurt your stomach if you go straight from the fast to eating. The most it would do is give you the shits (friends personal experience). It didn't do anything for me when I did it, I was fine. I have no clue what the meat every other week thing is either...... A lot of people are saying shit that has nothing to do with the original juice fast... I hope everyone can understand that it is simply juicing fresh vegetables, without any food of any kind for a week or longer. There are too many deviations, and people are getting confused I think... Also, there is a lot of bullshit out there (not just in this thread) of how the juice fast doesn't work, and go figure, it's more than likey because there were deviations in how it was done. Adding fresh juice to any diet will make you healthier, there is no arguing that, but if you are trying to gain anything medically, don't deviate from how it was meant to be done: All juice, with lots of water, no food*, low amounts of the naturally sugary juices.
This was my main drink (as in every day). All of these ingredients will make one gallon. You take and disperse into whatever containers that you want, and make sure you pour it to the top of the lid, and put the lid on tight. It should stay tasty for a day. Make sure to always keep up on your water.
5 large cucumbers
5-6 tomatoes
8 leafs kale
hand full of spinach, just a normal hand full...
4 big leafs of collard greens
5 sticks of celery
3 carrots
half a bushel of cilantro
half a bushel of parsley
3 red peppers
1 green chili
and salt to flavor
Skittles Drink:
Juice until you get 3 cups of liquid from carrots
5 apples
half a bushel of parsley
1 1/2 lemons
1 inch square (for visual of how much) of ginger
This was my main drink (as in every day). All of these ingredients will make one gallon. You take and disperse into whatever containers that you want, and make sure you pour it to the top of the lid, and put the lid on tight. It should stay tasty for a day. Make sure to always keep up on your water.
5 large cucumbers
5-6 tomatoes
8 leafs kale
hand full of spinach, just a normal hand full...
4 big leafs of collard greens
5 sticks of celery
3 carrots
half a bushel of cilantro
half a bushel of parsley
3 red peppers
1 green chili
and salt to flavor
Skittles Drink:
Juice until you get 3 cups of liquid from carrots
5 apples
half a bushel of parsley
1 1/2 lemons
1 inch square (for visual of how much) of ginger
Thanks for posting the Skittles drink recipe again. My wife stopped at the store on her way home from work and I just added the ingredients from this recipe as well as one I found to make Spicy V8 to the grocery list (love smart phones). I will then add ingredients for this one you said you make daily as well as that Mean Green Machine or whatever it is that's so popular. I will make up some of those next. I also plan to make smaller portions since I'm home anyway so I won't have to worry about things going bad before I can drink them.
For those looking for recipes, here's some I found.
The first one is for Spicy V8 juice. There are two and I have tried neither one myself so try whichever you think looks better based on ingredients since they both use different ones.
Spicy V8 (two different recipes)
First Recipe:
3 carrots
3 stalks Celery
1 sweet green pepper
1 red pepper
1 yellow pepper
1 cucumber
1/2 beet
5 or more small ripe tomatoes
1 clove garlic
2 or more hot green peppers like serrano or jalapeño
add cayenne or fresh horseradish to taste
Second Recipe:
6 medium carrots
1 small beet (wash well)
3 large tomatoes
2 cups baby spinach (may increase if you like)
1/4 head cabbage
1 habanero pepper (or more to taste if you like it spicy)
1 red bell pepper
1 green bell pepper
3 stalks celery
1/4 sweet onion
1/2 garlic clove
3 kale leaves (a little goes a long way so be careful)
chili pepper
sea salt
Up next is one that sounds like it's one of the more popular recipes for juice fasting out there:
Mean Green Juice
1 cucumber
4 celery stalks
2 apples
6-8 leaves kale (Australian tuscan cabbage)
1/2 lemon
1 tbsp ginger
Directions
Wash all produce well
Peel the lemon, optional
Juice
Pour over ice
Enjoy!
As I try these I will post what works, what doesn't and what I like and don't like as well as other recipes I find.
Doing a gallon at a time makes sense to me. I could put it in a cooler with ice and take it to work with me.
blacklabel
07-09-2013, 18:06
You can do three weeks, you can do it right up till you eat again also. It isn't going to hurt your stomach if you go straight from the fast to eating. The most it would do is give you the shits (friends personal experience). It didn't do anything for me when I did it, I was fine. I have no clue what the meat every other week thing is either...... A lot of people are saying shit that has nothing to do with the original juice fast... I hope everyone can understand that it is simply juicing fresh vegetables, without any food of any kind for a week or longer. There are too many deviations, and people are getting confused I think... Also, there is a lot of bullshit out there (not just in this thread) of how the juice fast doesn't work, and go figure, it's more than likey because there were deviations in how it was done. Adding fresh juice to any diet will make you healthier, there is no arguing that, but if you are trying to gain anything medically, don't deviate from how it was meant to be done: All juice, with lots of water, no food*, low amounts of the naturally sugary juices.
The meat thing is dinner for his bachelor party and then the wedding. I'm not trying to add meat into a juice fast. Sorry that wasn't clear.
blacklabel
07-09-2013, 18:11
Up next is one that sounds like it's one of the more popular recipes for juice fasting out there:
Mean Green Juice
1 cucumber
4 celery stalks
2 apples
6-8 leaves kale (Australian tuscan cabbage)
1/2 lemon
1 tbsp ginger
Directions
Wash all produce well
Peel the lemon, optional
Juice
Pour over ice
Enjoy!
As I try these I will post what works, what doesn't and what I like and don't like as well as other recipes I find.
The Mean Green is pretty damn good.
joeyshoe
07-09-2013, 18:33
Why did we need a second thread? I can tell you that both of these threads will end up discussing the exact same topics and it's just going to fragment the conversation. Do we need TWO juicing threads on a gun forum?
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/62620-juice-fast?highlight=juicing
jerrymrc
07-09-2013, 18:40
Because there's a bunch of bullshit and shit talking in the other one. This isn't a place for that. This is for the ones doing it.
If you're not doing it, GTFO.
Sent from my teepee using smoke signals.
Sorry, I am not going to get the fuck out. keep going. [dig]
Spicy V8 (two different recipes)
First Recipe:
3 carrots
3 stalks Celery
1 sweet green pepper
1 red pepper
1 yellow pepper
1 cucumber
1/2 beet
5 or more small ripe tomatoes
1 clove garlic
2 or more hot green peppers like serrano or jalapeño
add cayenne or fresh horseradish to taste
So I just tried this recipe tonight and while it doesn't taste much like Spicy V8 it's still a tasty recipe. I forgot to add any horseradish while I was juicing so maybe that would have helped but I didn't get a V8 flavor. The beet was a lot stronger and the juice looked like it since it was mostly purple. May have had something to do with it too. Maybe less beet would have been more V8-like. The garlic is also quite strong which I kind of like after a week of sweet juices. It kind of feels like I'm drinking a meal instead of a juice. But either way, it wasn't bad at all. This one yielded a full pitcher worth of juice... maybe a little bit more. The freshness was immediately noticeable over the bottled juices.
blacklabel
07-10-2013, 07:36
Day 2
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 292.2
Current Weight: 289.5
My son wanted an apple yesterday so I cut one up for him and accidentally popped a slice in my mouth. Don't worry, I swore and promptly spit it out.
Yesterday was a little rough from a hunger standpoint but I got by with a little more juice and tons of water. I haven't had the big detox yet but have noticed that my tongue is white and furry which I've read is a sign of the detox process.
http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-1-vitapress-pressure-juicer
^Saw that on Groupon. I don't know if it's a quality juicer or even a good price but figured I'd let you guys figure that out.
Day 10 update: I'm bummed to report that for the first time since I've started this diet I've actually gained weight. 1.4lbs to be exact. I changed a couple of things yesterday and have a couple of thoughts. The first thing I changed was that I went to the store and grabbed some Low Sodium Spicy Hot V8 juice to drink. I was getting tired of sweet juices and wanted a change to the basic flavor I was taking in and so I thought this would be a decent way to go temporarily until I could get a juicer. My guess is that even though it's 'Low Sodium' it's still higher than I should be taking in right now & probably triggered some water retention. If this theory is right then stopping drinking it should reverse this rather quickly and I should see this weight I put on plus whatever I would have lost come off within the next 24-48hrs as things return to normal. I've switched back to the Botlhouse Farms juices that I've already had success with and have increased my water intake in an effort to flush my body of sodium. Here's to hoping I get back what I gained through water weight yesterday plus what I would have lost through fat burning.
I also had the wife stop by Walmart and pick me up a juicer and some veggies & fruits. About the best thing they had on the shelf was a Jack LaLanne Power Juicer so that's what I got. It runs about $100 and I'm not impressed. It was quieter than I thought it would be and seems like a well made product. That's about the end of the positive things I have to say about it. For starters it seems as though it leaves a LOT of juice as the pulp I removed was very wet still so you're wasting a lot of your veggies & fruit which means wasting money as well. The next annoying thing it does is that as it makes juice it pours out of the spout into the included cup but at the same time it sputters and spits liquid out the front too. So if you're standing in front of it and juicing something like a beet your shirt is ruined. If it's point to the side then your counter is douched in juice by the time you're done. I made a recipe that was supposed to be spicy V8 and while it didn't really taste like spicy V8 it was pretty tasty. I was still tasting garlic this morning when I woke up though so go light on the garlic. lol
I'm planning to return this juicer but will probably keep it until the one I order shows up. After some research it appears as though the Hamilton Beach Big Mouth Juicer is a good bargain for the price tag. It runs $59.99 w/free shipping via Walmart & Amazon so I'll probably order from Amazon to avoid paying tax. It has a more powerful motor than the LaLanne and has done quite well in the reviews that I've read. It does a pretty solid job of out performing juicers that cost quite a bit more so I'm confident I will be happy with this once it arrives.
blacklabel
07-10-2013, 13:31
I had to resort to a V8 today as well and am expecting a gain or no loss tomorrow.
I think you'll like the Big Mouth juicer. It's what we picked up and it's performed well over the last couple of days. I don't see any issues coming up unless it just up and dies.
Yeah, I'd like to hear some first-hand experience about the Hamilton Beach unit. I can only imagine the Jack Lalane unit is just some p.o.s. that he endorsed with his name. HB has been making kitchen appliances for a lotta years.
I've always liked V8, but man, you can really taste the salt in it. That shit can't be healthy.
I had to resort to a V8 today as well and am expecting a gain or no loss tomorrow.
I think you'll like the Big Mouth juicer. It's what we picked up and it's performed well over the last couple of days. I don't see any issues coming up unless it just up and dies.
Where did you find one? Did you get the one with the metal side straps or plastic?
Yeah, I'd like to hear some first-hand experience about the Hamilton Beach unit. I can only imagine the Jack Lalane unit is just some p.o.s. that he endorsed with his name. HB has been making kitchen appliances for a lotta years.
I've always liked V8, but man, you can really taste the salt in it. That shit can't be healthy.
That's why I got the Low Sodium version thinking that it tastes pretty bland by comparison I should be alright. Wrong! I drank quite a bit too as my body was liking the change of pace since I generally ingest salty and spicy foods versus sweet and plain foods. Ultimately, anything that can be kept at room temperature for long periods of time isn't healthy for the most part. Since they pasteurize the ingredients the nutrients and vitamins are 'dead' which most claim isn't as healthy for you either and your body doesn't readily receive and process them the same. Making your own juice from fresh fruits and veggies is always mo betta.
The LaLanne juicer isn't that bad and I know that 15 years or so it was the juicer to have. My buddy had one and as I recall they were about the best and only juicer you could buy. Things have obviously come a long ways since then and the juicers today are just better where, other than minor changes, I think the LaLanne juicer has remained largely unchanged. I think they rely on their name and existing business agreements to sell units now whereas some of these other newer models have to rely more on producing a better product. It also seems like the idea that you have to pay $250-$300 to get a quality juicer is being challenged which I thoroughly enjoy. I can't wait to see if the $60ish HB juicer is going to meet all of my needs.
Where did you find one? Did you get the one with the metal side straps or plastic?
That's why I got the Low Sodium version thinking that it tastes pretty bland by comparison I should be alright. Wrong! I drank quite a bit too as my body was liking the change of pace since I generally ingest salty and spicy foods versus sweet and plain foods. Ultimately, anything that can be kept at room temperature for long periods of time isn't healthy for the most part. Since they pasteurize the ingredients the nutrients and vitamins are 'dead' which most claim isn't as healthy for you either and your body doesn't readily receive and process them the same. Making your own juice from fresh fruits and veggies is always mo betta.
The LaLanne juicer isn't that bad and I know that 15 years or so it was the juicer to have. My buddy had one and as I recall they were about the best and only juicer you could buy. Things have obviously come a long ways since then and the juicers today are just better where, other than minor changes, I think the LaLanne juicer has remained largely unchanged. I think they rely on their name and existing business agreements to sell units now whereas some of these other newer models have to rely more on producing a better product. It also seems like the idea that you have to pay $250-$300 to get a quality juicer is being challenged which I thoroughly enjoy. I can't wait to see if the $60ish HB juicer is going to meet all of my needs.
I think I will hit up craigslist. Lots of barely used good ones there.
blacklabel
07-10-2013, 15:07
Where did you find one? Did you get the one with the metal side straps or plastic?
This is the one that I picked up. Wal-Mart didn't have the other model.
Hamilton Beach Big Mouth Juice Extractor (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hamilton-Beach-Big-Mouth-Juice-Extractor/11317141)
It looks like the main difference is the locking levers. Stainless would be nice but I think as long as I'm careful with the plastic ones on mine I should be fine.
I think I will hit up craigslist. Lots of barely used good ones there.
I didn't see any of the Hamilton Beach Big Mouth's on there (other than some jack wagon trying to get more for their used juicer than you can buy it brand new for). In fact, the only ones I saw that I would consider comparable are actually more expensive used than that one is new.
This is the one that I picked up. Wal-Mart didn't have the other model.
Hamilton Beach Big Mouth Juice Extractor (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hamilton-Beach-Big-Mouth-Juice-Extractor/11317141)
It looks like the main difference is the locking levers. Stainless would be nice but I think as long as I'm careful with the plastic ones on mine I should be fine.
That's why I asked since that's the difference in the two models for $10. The only negative reviews I could find on this juicer were that those can break with normal usage even by those who know and were trying to be careful. It seems as though that weak link was addressed with these metal straps and to me that's worth $10. My local stores have neither one in stock so since I have to order one I might as well get the updated version. I think functionally they're identical though so hopefully you don't have any problems with those. If not, it sounds like you'll be happy with that juicer.
Well, I believe I scored a few minutes ago! I was in the local Goodwill searching for fatass shorts (none to be had) and I found a Jack LaLanne Power Juicer, Model JLS-8, for $29.99. With my Geezer Discount and tax I carried it out for $27.53.
Plugged it in and it runs fine, nice and quiet. Now I just gotta clean it up real good and figure out WTF to do with it. But the major hurdle is cleared.
I also had the wife stop by Walmart and pick me up a juicer and some veggies & fruits. About the best thing they had on the shelf was a Jack LaLanne Power Juicer so that's what I got. It runs about $100 and I'm not impressed. It was quieter than I thought it would be and seems like a well made product. That's about the end of the positive things I have to say about it. For starters it seems as though it leaves a LOT of juice as the pulp I removed was very wet still so you're wasting a lot of your veggies & fruit which means wasting money as well.
I'm planning to return this juicer but will probably keep it until the one I order shows up. After some research it appears as though the Hamilton Beach Big Mouth Juicer is a good bargain for the price tag. It runs $59.99 w/free shipping via Walmart & Amazon so I'll probably order from Amazon to avoid paying tax. It has a more powerful motor than the LaLanne and has done quite well in the reviews that I've read. It does a pretty solid job of out performing juicers that cost quite a bit more so I'm confident I will be happy with this once it arrives.
The Jack LaLanne is a shitty juicer. It's quiet, ant that is the only good thing about it (it is better than nothing however). The Hamilton beach juicer is all you need. You don't need the expensive ones. The only draw back to the Hamilton Beach is the sound, friggen thing sounds like a jet engine, but, at least you know it's working!
I had to resort to a V8 today as well and am expecting a gain or no loss tomorrow.
I think you'll like the Big Mouth juicer. It's what we picked up and it's performed well over the last couple of days. I don't see any issues coming up unless it just up and dies.
The big mouth is what we've been using for a year now. Still working for us! Well.... still working for the wife anyway! (I haven't juiced in quite some time)
So the HB Big Mouth is quite a bit louder than the LaLanne then huh?
blacklabel
07-10-2013, 19:56
So the HB Big Mouth is quite a bit louder than the LaLanne then huh?
Sounds like a damn freight train.
We've been using the Magic Bullet ($50 at Target) for about a month for making the juices. It's basically a blender but whatever you put in is completely smooth when done. Juicers remove a lot of pulp (fiber) which IMO is a waste since it keeps your intestines nice and clean.
Also, most of our juices have about 50% leafy greens like spinach, kale, collard greens. These are surprisingly loaded with protein. Also sunflower seeds and some nuts make a great protein source and also add some important fatty acids.
the idea that pasteurization destroys nutrients has been debunked, but for some reason some people perpetuate that myth. in things like orange juice it can decrease the vitamin C content slightly, but it is insignificant. its kind of like the people that say immunizations cause diseases and all this mumbo jumbo. it has been investigated by many sources many times and is completely untrue. some so called "nutritionists" will say pasteurization destroys nutrients but there is no evidence of this.
Where did you find one? Did you get the one with the metal side straps or plastic?
That's why I got the Low Sodium version thinking that it tastes pretty bland by comparison I should be alright. Wrong! I drank quite a bit too as my body was liking the change of pace since I generally ingest salty and spicy foods versus sweet and plain foods. Ultimately, anything that can be kept at room temperature for long periods of time isn't healthy for the most part. Since they pasteurize the ingredients the nutrients and vitamins are 'dead' which most claim isn't as healthy for you either and your body doesn't readily receive and process them the same. Making your own juice from fresh fruits and veggies is always mo betta.
The LaLanne juicer isn't that bad and I know that 15 years or so it was the juicer to have. My buddy had one and as I recall they were about the best and only juicer you could buy. Things have obviously come a long ways since then and the juicers today are just better where, other than minor changes, I think the LaLanne juicer has remained largely unchanged. I think they rely on their name and existing business agreements to sell units now whereas some of these other newer models have to rely more on producing a better product. It also seems like the idea that you have to pay $250-$300 to get a quality juicer is being challenged which I thoroughly enjoy. I can't wait to see if the $60ish HB juicer is going to meet all of my needs.
Seems like fresh salsa is the equivalent to juice, and it certainly provides a different taste, and even some spice if that's what you are looking for Jer. I eat fresh pico right out of the bowl all the time. I bet on a juice diet it'd be like a delicacy to be eating something that you almost have to chew.
Anybody know where I can buy a DVD of "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead"? I watched it online, but I want the wife to watch it too and she won't do it online, but she'd watch it on the TV. And I'd like to have the DVD anyway.
Also, any good books on the subject?
<edit>Just went back to page 1 and found the link to Rebootwithjoe.com.
Sounds like a damn freight train.
That's not what I like to hear. A little birdie told me that the Walmart near us is getting one in tonight and my wife id going to pick it up in the morning on her way to work in the morning. I liked how I could juice while watching TV the other night. I just had to turn the volume up a few clicks.
We've been using the Magic Bullet ($50 at Target) for about a month for making the juices. It's basically a blender but whatever you put in is completely smooth when done. Juicers remove a lot of pulp (fiber) which IMO is a waste since it keeps your intestines nice and clean.
Also, most of our juices have about 50% leafy greens like spinach, kale, collard greens. These are surprisingly loaded with protein. Also sunflower seeds and some nuts make a great protein source and also add some important fatty acids.
But what you're doing is blending. A juicing diet is very specific and you can't eat the pulp/fiber of the fruit as it defeats the purpose. You don't want your digestive system working as that's not the point. Once I'm done with the juice fast I may use the pulp for all sorts of things but for now I'm not eating it. Same reason I can't just eat an apple or a carrot.
the idea that pasteurization destroys nutrients has been debunked, but for some reason some people perpetuate that myth. in things like orange juice it can decrease the vitamin C content slightly, but it is insignificant. its kind of like the people that say immunizations cause diseases and all this mumbo jumbo. it has been investigated by many sources many times and is completely untrue. some so called "nutritionists" will say pasteurization destroys nutrients but there is no evidence of this.
I never said it destroyed anything. I simply stated that some said the nutrients might not be as good. I never said I wasn't going to drink it because of this though.. just that I wanted to juice fresh fruit and veggies to get fresh nutrients. Fruit and vegetables begin to break down as soon as you cut them and the nutrients suffer. I have a hard time believing these same fruits can be juiced, processed, pasteurized, made into juice and bottled up and stored and have the same nutritional value as the same veggies & fruits fresh. It doesn't need to be a debate I was simply saying I would rather have fresh and in my limited experience you can really taste the difference.
Seems like fresh salsa is the equivalent to juice, and it certainly provides a different taste, and even some spice if that's what you are looking for Jer. I eat fresh pico right out of the bowl all the time. I bet on a juice diet it'd be like a delicacy to be eating something that you almost have to chew.
As good as that sounds it still won't work. You have to have juice and water and nothing more in the juice fast. If you chew it it's not adequate for the diet. Loves me some pico w/jalapeno though.
blacklabel
07-11-2013, 07:13
Day 3
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 289.5
Current Weight: 288.0
I expected the V8 that I had yesterday to slow down my progress but it apparently didn't. My only problem so far has been some mild hunger which is really my fault. I need to juice once more a day and that problem would go away.
My energy levels have been normal to better than normal and I've felt good overall.
I've stuck to the Mean Green recipe with the addition of half a jalapeño for a very, very mild kick but it's changed up the flavor enough that I won't get tired of this recipe. I've thought about changing up my juice but a lot of what I see is more fruit based and I'd prefer to stay away from the sugar.
missionxo
07-11-2013, 07:39
I didn't see any of the Hamilton Beach Big Mouth's on there (other than some jack wagon trying to get more for their used juicer than you can buy it brand new for). In fact, the only ones I saw that I would consider comparable are actually more expensive used than that one is new.
That's why I asked since that's the difference in the two models for $10. The only negative reviews I could find on this juicer were that those can break with normal usage even by those who know and were trying to be careful. It seems as though that weak link was addressed with these metal straps and to me that's worth $10. My local stores have neither one in stock so since I have to order one I might as well get the updated version. I think functionally they're identical though so hopefully you don't have any problems with those. If not, it sounds like you'll be happy with that juicer.
Hey Jer could you tell me what you take in per day juice / water. What types of juices and how much. Thanks you have inspired me to get healthy.
the idea that pasteurization destroys nutrients has been debunked, but for some reason some people perpetuate that myth. in things like orange juice it can decrease the vitamin C content slightly, but it is insignificant. its kind of like the people that say immunizations cause diseases and all this mumbo jumbo. it has been investigated by many sources many times and is completely untrue. some so called "nutritionists" will say pasteurization destroys nutrients but there is no evidence of this.
I'm curious as to where you have read this. Everything I have read says that most pasteurization happens at 160-180 degrees, which, is at a lot higher temperature than the breaking point of almost all enzymes (118 degrees), and a lot of vitamins, and nutrients. I've read a lot of random blogs, and, private sites, posts about how people "know" that pasteurizing doesn't harm anything, but have never actually read any facts on the issue, just one opinion after another. If you could, PM me what you have seen, so I can read it for myself, so if I'm wrong, I can change what I tell people.
Hey Jer could you tell me what you take in per day juice / water. What types of juices and how much. Thanks you have inspired me to get healthy.
I know you asked Jer, but I will tell you what I did, as supplemental information for you.
I made one gallon of juice in the morning, for the entire day. I have put what I used for my juice somewhere in this thread already (I think it's a couple pages back). I also drank a lot of water.
Quick day 11 update after my bad news day 10 update:
I'm down 2.8lbs from yesterday which supports my theory 100%. The funny thing is it's almost exact since I had settled in to losing 1.4lbs per day pretty regularly so if I was going to guess at my loss for today I would have set it at 2.8lbs. Spot on! This means that even the 'low sodium' V8 juice isn't fit for a juice fast. It's too high salt content which means that your body will retain water and it will skew the weight numbers. Keeping hydrated is important while doing this juice fast so the last thing you want is a bunch of added sodium in your system. 18.0lbs so far and should be cracking the 20lb mark by the weekend. I can't wait to see the 260's on the scale!
Day 3
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 289.5
Current Weight: 288.0
I expected the V8 that I had yesterday to slow down my progress but it apparently didn't. My only problem so far has been some mild hunger which is really my fault. I need to juice once more a day and that problem would go away.
My energy levels have been normal to better than normal and I've felt good overall.
I've stuck to the Mean Green recipe with the addition of half a jalapeño for a very, very mild kick but it's changed up the flavor enough that I won't get tired of this recipe. I've thought about changing up my juice but a lot of what I see is more fruit based and I'd prefer to stay away from the sugar.
I'll borrow your format & add a couple of lines:
Starting Weight: 290.8
Previous Weight: 275.4
Current Weight: 272.8
Lost since last: 2.6
Total Weight lost: 18.0
Based on my experience I would say to stay away from V8. Too much sodium and I think your results will be better w/o that stuff.
Good tip on adding a jalapeno to the Mean Green juice. I love spicy things and I've found that serrano peppers have a great flavor in veggie juices. I also did the same thing at the beginning and wasn't drinking enough juice. I came to the realization that being greedy with the juice I took in wasn't a wise move since it's ALL I was taking in. It's hard to get out of the mindset that you want to limit what you take in which is what you try to apply to regular food when you're eating. When you're body is telling you it's hungry give it juice regardless of how much you've had to that point in the day.
Hey Jer could you tell me what you take in per day juice / water. What types of juices and how much. Thanks you have inspired me to get healthy.
Like I said before, I think I've read the guidelines are 6-8 8oz or 4-6 10-12oz drinks per day. I honestly am not sure how much I'm taking in but I'm sure it's around those figures. The best thing I can say is to listen to your body as it will tell you when to drink more juice. I drink water all day and when I start to feel hungry I drink juice. Sometimes I just drink juice even if I don't quite feel hungry yet but it's been a while since I did last. You're body will tell you when it's hungry and if you're hungry make sure you drink juice. Don't deny your body vitamins or nutrients because of some guidelines you read online. I'm proof that you don't need to starve your body of nutrients & vitamins to lose weight. To get started I literally stopped at Walmart and bought 1 or 2 of every flavor Bolthouse Farms juice that they carried save for the coffee one and the protein one. I'm still not sure if drinking that juice with the protein in it is a good idea for this juice fast. My uneducated guess is you don't want to introduce that much protein for this fast. Most of the juices have some protein and I'm guessing that's about the limit of what you want in your system. Then, I had a couple decent meals on Sunday (Sushi & then a brisket sandwich from Serious Texas BBQ) and Monday morning it was weighing myself after I woke up and nothing but water and juice. Weigh yourself at the same time each day and morning is best since it will have the fewest variables in play. You might drink different amounts of fluid each day but in the morning those variables are all ruled out. Be sure to post your results and ask any questions you might have.
I know you asked Jer, but I will tell you what I did, as supplemental information for you.
I made one gallon of juice in the morning, for the entire day. I have put what I used for my juice somewhere in this thread already (I think it's a couple pages back). I also drank a lot of water.
I just got a juicer so plan to start making more of my own juices. I'm not sure I want to make a gallon at a time so I may try to create some recipes for single or double servings. What I've read says that as soon as you cut a vegetable the nutrients and vitamins start breaking down. Blending or juicing exposes more of the veggie to air and speeds up this process so I want to wait to juice until I'm going to drink it whenever possible to get the max nutrients. Now, if you are on the go all day his method of juicing an entire gallon may be the easiest for you. I also will see how much I like cleaning out my juicer every stinking time I make juice and may switch that to making larger batches too. I posted a few recipes too and if you search you will find them. I made one and reviewed it and plan to make some of the others today once I get some more tomatoes. I may have to make Spyder's Skittles juice in the meantime since I have all the ingredients for that one.
Day 5 -9lb
Fawwwwk! That would damn sure do a lot to relieve my misery! In 2 weeks I could feel a helluva lot better, in 2 months - who knows! I've got to get rolling on this. Weighed in at 323 this morning. Didn't know they could stack shit that high.
missionxo
07-11-2013, 10:39
I know you asked Jer, but I will tell you what I did, as supplemental information for you.
I made one gallon of juice in the morning, for the entire day. I have put what I used for my juice somewhere in this thread already (I think it's a couple pages back). I also drank a lot of water.
Thanks for the info........I will post my progress as well ...good luck to the rest of you!!!
Day 5 -9lb
Nice man! Keep it up!!
Fawwwwk! That would damn sure do a lot to relieve my misery! In 2 weeks I could feel a helluva lot better, in 2 months - who knows! I've got to get rolling on this. Weighed in at 323 this morning. Didn't know they could stack shit that high.
Like Nike says: JUST DO IT!
Seriously man, you just need to hit the store and get a bunch of juices and start now. Figure the rest out later as you go. That's exactly what I did and now I've got a juicer and I'm big time! lol
I saw that you posted on another juice thread last year and still haven't started. I'm trying to call you out in a good way. You just need to go for it because you will be healthier tomorrow if you start today. The only catch is you HAVE to start. The next day you will be even healthier than the previous and so on. The Bolthouse Farms juices are only $3.48 each at Walmart and they have like a dozen flavors. Get them all (except for the coffee and protein ones) even if you're not sure you will like it and stop eating food. You will find that the ones you didn't think you would like become your favorite after a couple of days. I thought the Carrot one tasted like hot dirt but now I love it since it's a break from the sweet juices. You need to stop putting it off and just do it man. It starts today. I can't wait to see your results!
blacklabel
07-11-2013, 11:34
I'm drinking somewhere between 48 and 64oz of juice per day and about 100oz of water. It's really true that just listening to your body and drinking juice when you're hungry is key. I get hungry, take a drink of juice and the hunger goes away.
It also takes me 30 to 45 minutes to drink 20oz of juice. I nurse that stuff.
I'm drinking somewhere between 48 and 64oz of juice per day and about 100oz of water. It's really true that just listening to your body and drinking juice when you're hungry is key. I get hungry, take a drink of juice and the hunger goes away.
It also takes me 30 to 45 minutes to drink 20oz of juice. I nurse that stuff.
There you go. It's difficult to explain but once you start you'll see... you're body does tell you when it's time for juice and you won't miss it.
Nice man! Keep it up!!
Like Nike says: JUST DO IT!
Seriously man, you just need to hit the store and get a bunch of juices and start now. Figure the rest out later as you go. That's exactly what I did and now I've got a juicer and I'm big time! lol
I saw that you posted on another juice thread last year and still haven't started. I'm trying to call you out in a good way. You just need to go for it because you will be healthier tomorrow if you start today. The only catch is you HAVE to start. The next day you will be even healthier than the previous and so on. The Bolthouse Farms juices are only $3.48 each at Walmart and they have like a dozen flavors. Get them all (except for the coffee and protein ones) even if you're not sure you will like it and stop eating food. You will find that the ones you didn't think you would like become your favorite after a couple of days. I thought the Carrot one tasted like hot dirt but now I love it since it's a break from the sweet juices. You need to stop putting it off and just do it man. It starts today. I can't wait to see your results!
Did you miss my post a few back (#170)? I went to a Goodwill store and found a Jack Lalanne Power Juicer for $27.53. It cleaned up great and appears to run fine, so I'm over the first hurdle. A start anyway. My wife is the next hurdle, she's not going to think this is a good idea because SHE didn't come up with it! And I know she's gonna shit about the amounts of produce this will require.
Did you miss my post a few back (#170)? I went to a Goodwill store and found a Jack Lalanne Power Juicer for $27.53. It cleaned up great and appears to run fine, so I'm over the first hurdle. A start anyway. My wife is the next hurdle, she's not going to think this is a good idea because SHE didn't come up with it! And I know she's gonna shit about the amounts of produce this will require.
I saw that post but I still don't see any results posted.
blacklabel
07-11-2013, 14:59
Did you miss my post a few back (#170)? I went to a Goodwill store and found a Jack Lalanne Power Juicer for $27.53. It cleaned up great and appears to run fine, so I'm over the first hurdle. A start anyway. My wife is the next hurdle, she's not going to think this is a good idea because SHE didn't come up with it! And I know she's gonna shit about the amounts of produce this will require.
Get her to watch Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead.
I am just wondering. Years ago whole foods used to have 20lb bags of carrots just for juicing. They were all the carrots that were to small and not pretty enough to make it to the produce aisles. Sold they for something like $13. Maybe it wasn't Whole Foods. I cannot remember.
Get her to watch Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead.
He was asking about buying a DVD of it so she could. I don't think it's available on DVD which I think is kind of the point. He wanted the information to be free for everyone.
Listen rondog... some things in life you just have to do for you. Given what you've said this is something you NEED to do. Once she sees you drop more weight in a week than she's lost in a month of dieting... she'll be curious. It's easier if you're significant other is onboard but you need to not let that be a hurdle. It seems you're looking for reasons to NOT do this rather than reasons TO do it. This is one of the easiest diet/workout/health routines I've ever done. Literally. All you need to do is just do it.
I am just wondering. Years ago whole foods used to have 20lb bags of carrots just for juicing. They were all the carrots that were to small and not pretty enough to make it to the produce aisles. Sold they for something like $13. Maybe it wasn't Whole Foods. I cannot remember.
That's interesting. I'll check into that for sure and if anyone else knows for sure let us know because I bought quite a few carrots the other day and even though they weren't organic it was still a healthy amount of $$ to spend on carrots. If I can get ugly but organic carrots for the same price then that's a win IMO.
That's interesting. I'll check into that for sure and if anyone else knows for sure let us know because I bought quite a few carrots the other day and even though they weren't organic it was still a healthy amount of $$ to spend on carrots. If I can get ugly but organic carrots for the same price then that's a win IMO.
Just stopped by my local whole foods and didn't see any.
Get her to watch Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead.
Know where I can find a DVD of it? I watched it online, but she won't go for that. On the TV, she'd watch it, but not on a computer. I'm actually eager for her to watch it. I don't do Netflix.
He was asking about buying a DVD of it so she could. I don't think it's available on DVD which I think is kind of the point. He wanted the information to be free for everyone.
Listen rondog... some things in life you just have to do for you. Given what you've said this is something you NEED to do. Once she sees you drop more weight in a week than she's lost in a month of dieting... she'll be curious. It's easier if you're significant other is onboard but you need to not let that be a hurdle. It seems you're looking for reasons to NOT do this rather than reasons TO do it. This is one of the easiest diet/workout/health routines I've ever done. Literally. All you need to do is just do it.
Has nothing to do with looking for excuses to not do it, it has more to do with being unemployed and not having much money to work with. I have to slide into this slowly.
Just stopped by my local whole foods and didn't see any.
Nuts to that!
Know where I can find a DVD of it? I watched it online, but she won't go for that. On the TV, she'd watch it, but not on a computer. I'm actually eager for her to watch it. I don't do Netflix.
Her health is a pretty important thing to sit and watch something on a computer, laptop, smart phone or whatever. I have the ability to watch things on YouTube on my TVs pretty easily with a few different options. Not sure what to tell you other than google how to download a video from YouTube and then burning it to a DVD-R in a format that a DVD player will read. Most PCs come with DVD burners these days and the media is cheap and the programs that do it are free. That seems like an awful lot of effort compared to her just watching it on YouTube in some format.
Has nothing to do with looking for excuses to not do it, it has more to do with being unemployed and not having much money to work with. I have to slide into this slowly.
I'm unemployed too brother. You have to pay money for crap food that's killing you so you might as well pay money for good food that's going to save your life. Why do you have to slide into it slowly? Just go to Walmart and buy some Bolthouse Farms juices for $3.48/ea and start drinking them. You'll probably drink 2-3 per day which is still less than 10 bucks per day all in.
I bet if you called Whole Foods they could get them
Know where I can find a DVD of it? I watched it online, but she won't go for that. On the TV, she'd watch it, but not on a computer. I'm actually eager for her to watch it. I don't do Netflix.
http://shop.rebootwithjoe.com/products/fat-sick-nearly-dead-dvd
Her health is a pretty important thing to sit and watch something on a computer, laptop, smart phone or whatever. I have the ability to watch things on YouTube on my TVs pretty easily with a few different options. Not sure what to tell you other than google how to download a video from YouTube and then burning it to a DVD-R in a format that a DVD player will read. Most PCs come with DVD burners these days and the media is cheap and the programs that do it are free. That seems like an awful lot of effort compared to her just watching it on YouTube in some format.
I'm unemployed too brother. You have to pay money for crap food that's killing you so you might as well pay money for good food that's going to save your life. Why do you have to slide into it slowly? Just go to Walmart and buy some Bolthouse Farms juices for $3.48/ea and start drinking them. You'll probably drink 2-3 per day which is still less than 10 bucks per day all in.
Guess you'd just have to know her, too much to explain. But I'll do this!
Guess you'd just have to know her, too much to explain. But I'll do this!
I just know you've been talking about doing this for some time now and haven't started. Ordering a DVD online, waiting for it to arrive & then waiting for your wife to make time to watch it before YOU can start to get healthy just doesn't make sense to me. Just trying to motivate you to do something about it because I was the same way not all that long ago.
Did you miss my post a few back (#170)? I went to a Goodwill store and found a Jack Lalanne Power Juicer for $27.53. It cleaned up great and appears to run fine, so I'm over the first hurdle. A start anyway. My wife is the next hurdle, she's not going to think this is a good idea because SHE didn't come up with it! And I know she's gonna shit about the amounts of produce this will require.
Use the left over pulp to make chips and stuff. That should give her something to do! lol j/k
Whoever the mod was that just flushed that turd - thank you!
But what you're doing is blending. A juicing diet is very specific and you can't eat the pulp/fiber of the fruit as it defeats the purpose. You don't want your digestive system working as that's not the point. Once I'm done with the juice fast I may use the pulp for all sorts of things but for now I'm not eating it. Same reason I can't just eat an apple or a carrot.
That's pretty much what I said. I suppose I have nothing to contribute here then. Best of luck to you in getting fit.
Ok, just whipped up my first Mean Green - dear God this is nasty.....like the stuff I wash off the bottom of my lawnmower. This is gonna be a long road.
Ok, just whipped up my first Mean Green - dear God this is nasty.....like the stuff I wash off the bottom of my lawnmower.
Did you get a juicer today or already have one?
My old natural energy drink I used to make was 5 carrots and a few sprigs of parsley. Wasn't bad. Whole Foods may order the 25lb bags of carrots if you ask.
Did you get a juicer today or already have one?
My old natural energy drink I used to make was 5 carrots and a few sprigs of parsley. Wasn't bad. Whole Foods may order the 25lb bags of carrots if you ask.
I found a Jack Lalanne Power Juicer at a Goodwill store for $27.53. Gotta try some more recipes.
I found a Jack Lalanne Power Juicer at a Goodwill store for $27.53. Gotta try some more recipes.
Oh yeah I seen that.
blacklabel
07-11-2013, 19:37
Ok, just whipped up my first Mean Green - dear God this is nasty.....like the stuff I wash off the bottom of my lawnmower. This is gonna be a long road.
It definitely has a "grass" feel to it. Reduce the amount of kale and throw some jalapeño in there. Much better.
Well, this Winter I gained 20 pounds on the raw steak and Irish Coffee diet . . . all in my gut . . . and it has been a bitch to take it off, even with the protein supplements and increasing sets and reps. So, after reading this thread I've been having a pint juice at Whole Foods every morning this week and switched from red meat to ground turkey breast. Dropped nearly 5 pounds without fasting.
missionxo
07-11-2013, 20:53
So I started today. I went the Jer route got some Bolthouse and some Naked from Wal-Mart until I get a Juicer.
Im 6'4" and im at 310 I would like to be 225 .....here we go
blacklabel
07-11-2013, 20:56
So I started today. I went the Jer route got some Bolthouse and some Naked from Wal-Mart until I get a Juicer.
Im 6'4" and im at 310 I would like to be 225 .....here we go
Awesome! Let us know how your progress goes.
So I started today. I went the Jer route got some Bolthouse and some Naked from Wal-Mart until I get a Juicer.
Bolthouse tastes great, but like others have said they add a lot of sugar and thickeners. Naked and Odwalla are both far better choices, but they're pricier.
Naked juice is stupid expensive every where but bulk stores like Costco (and probably Walmart). What I mean is, what Star Bucks charges for a tiny bottle of Naked Juice is the same as the large bottle at Costco.
Naked juice is stupid expensive every where but bulk stores like Costco (and probably Walmart). What I mean is, what Star Bucks charges for a tiny bottle of Naked Juice is the same as the large bottle at Costco.
believe it or not if you sit and do the calculations, and shop the naked sales and such, juicing yourself comes out pretty damn close in terms of cost. you have to buy the bulk naked bottles but its shocking how close it gets. the juice diet isn't dirt cheap.
however, naked drinks are meant and devleped to be tastier, but also less healthy. in general they use quite a bit less vegetables and quite a bit more fruit.
Ok, just whipped up my first Mean Green - dear God this is nasty.....like the stuff I wash off the bottom of my lawnmower. This is gonna be a long road.
Try something else man. There's lots of things you can do and I've done a few now and some are meh and some are really good. Start off with a few simple things that have few ingredients that you know you like and then expand from there. Taking notes will make it easier to recreate or avoid making the same mistakes. The skittles recipe that Spidey posted earlier is good to go and much sweeter than those green style ones. I also made the 2nd Spicy V8 recipe I posted and it was alright. Not amazing. I think it needed more tomato but that's part of this process... trial and error.
Quick question.
Is it normal to feel dizzy? It's started today.
So I started today. I went the Jer route got some Bolthouse and some Naked from Wal-Mart until I get a Juicer.
Im 6'4" and im at 310 I would like to be 225 .....here we go
Nice! Giddy up!!
Awesome! Let us know how your progress goes.
Exactly.
Bolthouse tastes great, but like others have said they add a lot of sugar and thickeners. Naked and Odwalla are both far better choices, but they're pricier.
I don't know about that. Compare the labels and Bolthouse Farms also seems to have a LOT more vitamins & nutrients. That's the important part while on this diet. Hell, it seemed to work pretty damn good for me. I also felt it tasted better and if you're going to stick with it that's also something important for most people. If the juice is super healthy but you can't stand it and last only a week as a result then what good was it?
Oh and it's day 5 and -9lb
Quick question.
Is it normal to feel dizzy? It's started today.
I didn't experience this but I read some say that they did so I think it's fairly common. Just be sure you're drinking plenty of water. Might want to try upping that to make sure you avoid dehydration as that could trigger light headedness and all sort of fun shit. I haven't experienced dizziness but I did have a couple of bouts of shortness of breath. Seems this affects everyone differently. I was even reading some interesting stuff about how the fat cells have tiny layers and each layer was from things you've put in your body. For those who did drugs they even reported similar effects that they had when doing the drugs and people report food cravings in reverse order from when they gorged on them and stuff like that. Or those that had colds or other sickness had similar minor symptoms while juice fasting and their body was melting the layers away. Kind of interesting and for me it was like that when I first started. That day I was craving what I ate the day before and then the day before that and then the weeks prior to that. I just chalked it up to memories but I was reading stuff like that and thought it was interesting.
Oh and it's day 5 and -9lb
Nice!
I may try fruit in the morning. Wife brought home a leftover fruit tray thing from work that has a bunch of melon, pineapple and grapes. I'm sure my morning constitutional will be interesting from the Mean Green. Trying to drink lots of water, but I've never been a very good water drinker. I'm sure if I concentrate on drinking water it'll help.
Wife also told me that two of her girlfriends did some kind of juice diet, and at least one of them has some kind of high-dollar juicer gathering dust. Wife didn't know many details, but I guess the girls liked it. She said Allison's husband had a rough time of it for some reason and bailed. But now I have someone to talk to about this, and maybe a lead on borrowing a quality machine. The Jack Lalanne machine works but didn't impress me a lot. Might do a lot better with fruit.
I was even reading some interesting stuff about how the fat cells have tiny layers and each layer was from things you've put in your body. For those who did drugs they even reported similar effects that they had when doing the drugs and people report food cravings in reverse order from when they gorged on them and stuff like that.
I was thinking about this the other day and wondering how it would effect the presence of drugs in your blood stream. Suck if you flagged on a drug test because you were trying to do something healthy.
I don't know about that. Compare the labels and Bolthouse Farms also seems to have a LOT more vitamins & nutrients. That's the important part while on this diet.
Those are processed vitamins, same as in a Centrum. You juice up some fresh kale and you'll be getting much higher quality vitamins which your body can absorb and use quicker and easier. Your body rejects a lot of the processed vitamins and pisses them right out, which is why people get neon yellow piss after taking them.
Quick question.
Is it normal to feel dizzy? It's started today.
It's normal if you're dehydrated or hypoglycemic, and if that juice fast is giving you the squirts you might be both.
Drink a couple quarts of unflavored Pedialyte to balance your electrolyte levels, and drink a full cup of raw honey to boost your blood sugar. Honey breaks down slowly and doesn't give you the spike and crash from beet or cane sugar.
I imagine liquid protein drinks defeat the purpose since they provide energy to your body instead of drawing from your fat?
blacklabel
07-12-2013, 05:49
I had a terrible dream last night. I was at a birthday party and ruined my fast by unconsciously throwing a handful of Chex mix in my mouth and chewing away.
blacklabel
07-12-2013, 07:44
Day 4
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 288.0
Current Weight: 286.6
Yesterday was a good day. Still haven't changed up my juice although I did throw a serrano pepper in today. We'll see how that goes.
Well, today is my last day fasting. I started at 240lb and as of today I'm 228lb.
I'm planning to do this again next month.
Jer, thanks for inspiration Brother!
I was thinking about this the other day and wondering how it would effect the presence of drugs in your blood stream. Suck if you flagged on a drug test because you were trying to do something healthy.
I wouldn't think the levels would be high enough but I don't have the answer to that. I'm still not 100% sure that I believe it but it sure seems like a lot of people do.
I imagine liquid protein drinks defeat the purpose since they provide energy to your body instead of drawing from your fat?
I too would like to know if anyone knows the answer to this. Bolthouse Farms makes a protein juice and I've stayed away from it because I didn't want to endanger my diet since I didn't know.
I had a terrible dream last night. I was at a birthday party and ruined my fast by unconsciously throwing a handful of Chex mix in my mouth and chewing away.
That's funny man. I'm lucky that I rarely dream so I haven't had any dreams about it but my wife (who isn't doing the juice diet) has. Funny how the human mind thinks.
Well, today is my last day fasting. I started at 240lb and as of today I'm 228lb.
I'm planning to do this again next month.
Jer, thanks for inspiration Brother!
Awesome man! Good job for sticking it out and making it to the end. What made you decide to stop? Was it a certain time frame you set or a certain weight goal you achieved? Just curious why you didn't decide to do it longer. Either way it's good that you met your goal I'm just curious what your goals were since I forgot (if you posted them).
Starting Weight: 290.8
Current Weight: 272.6
Previous Weight: 272.8
Lost since last: 0.2 :-(
Total Weight lost: 18.2
Today was the 2nd biggest disappointment for me for this diet. The first one being a few days ago when I actually gained 1.4lbs. I was concerned this may happen and now I'm not sure what to think. The other day I had some low sodium V8 and then that night I made the first Spicy V8 recipe I found and the next morning I had gained weight. I assumed it was the V8 but wanted to rule out all variables and that day I didn't have any fresh juice and went back to the Bolthouse juices. The next morning I was down my usual 1.4lbs plus the 1.4lbs I had gained the previous day for a total of 2.8lbs. Great, I was back on track. Yesterday I stuck with Bolthouse because my wife was bringing home a different juicer on her way home from work that I wanted to try out. Last night I took a couple of house to make the Skittles recipe that Spidey posted as well as the 2nd Spicy V8 recipe that I found. It took quite a while to get all that juiced and my body was hungry so I kept drinking Bolthouse while I was making juice. Once they were done I had a few drinks of each one to taste... wouldn't say I really got a lot of juice from either batch really but some. That night I started having physical hunger which I also had the night I had Spicy V8 and fresh juices which concerned me since I hadn't had physical hunger in like a week or so maybe. Sure enough, wake up this morning and I've only lost 0.2lbs instead of what I expected to be around 1.4lbs which was my 'normal' over the last week or so after the first several days where I was losing a lot more.
So, what the heck is going on? I'm leaning towards the Spicy V8 recipe I used having something with sodium in it and I'm retaining water again so what is the ingredient? I may just give up on these Spicy V8 recipes all together as I don't want to add sodium to my diet at this time and it seems as though I may be with those recipes. I'll post the recipe below again:
6 medium carrots
1 small beet (wash well)
3 large tomatoes
2 cups baby spinach (may increase if you like)
1/4 head cabbage
1 habanero pepper (or more to taste if you like it spicy)
1 red bell pepper
1 green bell pepper
3 stalks celery
1/4 sweet onion
1/2 garlic clove
3 kale leaves (a little goes a long way so be careful)
chili pepper
sea salt
Obviously the last ingredient is salt and I didn't even add salt to the juice because I didn't want to add any sodium. I wonder which ingredient(s) is adding sodium if that is indeed what is going on. Hmmm...
V8 might have ha enough salt to make you retain some water weight.
If someone is wanting to go cheaper and easier but not quite as good but the 1 liter bottles of naked and dilute it a bit with water. It's pretty thick, especially the green machine and some of the others with vegetables. You can spend about 10 bucks per day which isn't bad.
V8 might have ha enough salt to make you retain some water weight.
I get that but that doesn't explain why I retained water last night before weigh-in this morning.
I think I figured it out! Turns out that beets are high in sodium. Who knew?
Spicy V8 (two recipes)
1)
3 carrots
3 stalks Celery
1 sweet green pepper
1 red pepper
1 yellow pepper
1 cucumber
1/2 beet
5 or more small ripe tomatoes
1 clove garlic
2 or more hot green peppers like serrano or jalapeño
add cayenne or fresh horseradish to taste
2)
6 medium carrots
1 small beet (wash well)
3 large tomatoes
2 cups baby spinach (may increase if you like)
1/4 head cabbage
1 habanero pepper (or more to taste if you like it spicy)
1 red bell pepper
1 green bell pepper
3 stalks celery
1/4 sweet onion
1/2 garlic clove
3 kale leaves (a little goes a long way so be careful)
chili pepper
sea salt
I guess spinach is a little bit high in sodium too so I'm going to steer clear of both of those as I juice and hopefully I don't run into these issues again. So let this be a lesson to everyone, as you search for juicing recipes know that some recipes you find aren't taking this juice fast diet into account so you need to examine ingredients before you assume everything will be fine. I may try to tweak these recipes to be more 'fast friendly' but I wasn't loving the idea of standing over a juicer for hours to make these complex recipes anyway. I think I'll stick with the few ingredient ones I've found that I posted earlier.
So, kale.....are you supposed to cut off the stalks and only use the leafy parts? I'm wondering if that's where I got some of the nasty taste.
So, kale.....are you supposed to cut off the stalks and only use the leafy parts? I'm wondering if that's where I got some of the nasty taste.
Nope, you can throw the whole thing right in. The stems shouldn't add any bitterness at all. Some fruits and veggies you'll want to skin or leave greens out (Apple seeds & carrots have toxic seeds & leafy portions respectively but they're rather low levels for human consumption) but most of them you can just toss it all right in the juicer. Some even have good nutritional value in the parts you don't generally eat. Some can be bitter though but kale isn't one of them that I'm aware of unless you got a hold of some bad kale.
Nope, you can throw the whole thing right in. The stems shouldn't add any bitterness at all. Some fruits and veggies you'll want to skin or leave greens out (Apple seeds & carrots have toxic seeds & leafy portions respectively but they're rather low levels for human consumption) but most of them you can just toss it all right in the juicer. Some even have good nutritional value in the parts you don't generally eat. Some can be bitter though but kale isn't one of them that I'm aware of unless you got a hold of some bad kale.
Hmm, I didn't core the apples, just cut 'em in half and in they went. Might have been the cucumber, lemon or ginger too, although I did peel the lemon. Ginger just went right in. Gotta get a recipe book or two, I can see it already.
Hmm, I didn't core the apples, just cut 'em in half and in they went. Might have been the cucumber, lemon or ginger too, although I did peel the lemon. Ginger just went right in. Gotta get a recipe book or two, I can see it already.
I don't core apples either. There is a couple schools of thought and most say that they're toxic but 1) it's at a level too low to be dangerous to humans and 2) the juicer won't juice the seeds enough anyway. I'm of that school of thought so I just throw them in hole if they fit. If they don't I cut them in half and while I'm doing that I'll pop out seeds that I can see. We have one of those apple cutting dohickys but I don't both with that because a lot of the apple is wasted when you core. I'm leaning towards the cucumber because those can be better sometimes w/o warning. I do peel lemons, oranges and limes as well to avoid that bitter rind messing with the flavor. Search google and you'll find tons of recipes.
Tomatoes, celery, lemon, horseradish, jalapeno, and vodka.
Tomatoes, celery, lemon, horseradish, jalapeno, and vodka.
Sounds like a good juice fast recipe. lol
Sounds like a good juice fast recipe. lol
Great for breakfast on Sunday mornings. I used to drink a quart of that with a half dozen fried eggs and a double order of home fries, but that was when I was burning off a lot more calories every day.
Great for breakfast on Sunday mornings. I used to drink a quart of that with a half dozen fried eggs and a double order of home fries, but that was when I was burning off a lot more calories every day.
What, no bacon?
ok so was talking to a health nut friend of mine who does juicing diets once in a while and she said if you don't want to pay for the juicer up front or don't have the time/energy to juice stuff just buy the naked juices in the larger bottles, get berry veggie or green machine or something like that, pour them into a larger container like a gallon jug or something and dilute with water. they are almost smoothie thickness and the dilution will make them a bit more like juice and go a longer ways. in the end its about $9 per day for a full days worth of juice.
its not quite as good as juicing yourself but is an option.
blacklabel
07-13-2013, 08:21
Day 5
Starting Weight: 293.5
Previous Weight: 286.6
Current Weight: 284.6
I'm starting to hit my stride. I just need to find a couple more juice recipes to keep things interesting. A single serrano didn't do jack for my juice yesterday so I'll bump it up to two.
A little TMI, but... I haven't had a "regular" BM, or a BM at all for that matter, all week. Normal or not?
Great for breakfast on Sunday mornings. I used to drink a quart of that with a half dozen fried eggs and a double order of home fries, but that was when I was burning off a lot more calories every day.
Jesus! What were you doing, pulling a plow or something?
blacklabel
07-13-2013, 10:02
Jesus! What were you doing, pulling a plow or something?
I used to eat the equivalent of that when my plan for the day was to sit on my ass and do jack all day.
I used to eat the equivalent of that when my plan for the day was to sit on my ass and do jack all day.
Guess I showed some restraint then. I'd stop at four eggs, depending upon what kind of meat came along with it all and how much of it. Oh, and the big pile of hashbrowns had to have cheese on it! But I'd add chopped onions to make it "healthy".
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