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Ingman
07-15-2013, 16:33
I happened to be at the Walmart in Cheyenne this weekend, where I saw a rifle I wanted to purchase.

As soon as I mentioned to the clerks I was from Colorado I was told I could not purchase any firearms there. One of the workers behind the counter said it was a recent policy change. The other worker hadn't heard about it so he tried entering my purchase into their system. The purchase was denied as soon as they entered I was from Colorado, before even getting to the screen where they enter what the firearm is. In other words it isn't related to magazine capacity, it is just a blanket prohibition on selling longarms to Coloradoans.

Anyone else heard anything about this or experienced this for themselves? Am I missing something in my understanding of these new laws that just passed? As far as I knew I thought I could still purchase longarms out-of-state.

Bailey Guns
07-15-2013, 16:42
No law has changed that would prohibit you from purchasing a long gun in WY.

wctriumph
07-15-2013, 16:43
Of course you can purchase long arms in WY, no laws against it. Sounds like a discrimination case against Walmart.

Great-Kazoo
07-15-2013, 17:07
Of course you can purchase long arms in WY, no laws against it. Sounds like a discrimination case against Walmart.

Just another Creepy Ass Checker

SuperiorDG
07-15-2013, 17:11
Just another Creepy Ass Checker

Ain't got time for that!

Ingman
07-15-2013, 17:16
No law has changed that would prohibit you from purchasing a long gun in WY.

That's what I thought. Initially I thought the first clerk was just full of bull, but the second clerk tried to make the sale and it was denied. So this sounds like some random Walmart policy change - but generally I thought Walmart was pretty gun friendly. And the clerks made it clear they could sell to residents of some other states, just that Colorado has been added to their "no sell" list.

clodhopper
07-15-2013, 17:17
Sounds like a discrimination case against Walmart.

As stupid as the decision by Walmart to deny sales to CO residents, I will support their right to do it. Last I checked, they are still not owned by the government, and therefore have the opportunity to deny sales of anything to anyone if they so choose. Just like I would support a cake decorator electing to not make a wedding cake for a gay couple if the decorator did not want to do so. There is no constitutional right to walk in to any retailer and buy whatever you want. If it pisses you off, don't shop there anymore.

Ingman
07-15-2013, 17:28
As stupid as the decision by Walmart to deny sales to CO residents, I will support their right to do it. Last I checked, they are still not owned by the government, and therefore have the opportunity to deny sales of anything to anyone if they so choose. Just like I would support a cake decorator electing to not make a wedding cake for a gay couple if the decorator did not want to do so. There is no constitutional right to walk in to any retailer and buy whatever you want. If it pisses you off, don't shop there anymore.

I didn't say I was pissed off at Walmart. My first thought was that there has been some legislative change I wasn't aware of. My second thought was that this was a strange policy from a generally gun-friendly company. My question here on the board was if anybody else had heard about this.

I have my theory as to why they are doing this, but I don't want to speculate or make any assumptions.

Ah Pook
07-15-2013, 17:34
I support cake decorators but not Walmart.

Gman
07-15-2013, 17:45
Welcome to "one of *those* states".

UrbanWolf
07-15-2013, 17:47
What is the law on buying guns from another state? If I got it right it's like you can sale a gun to non-resident if the gun is complaint to the gun law the the purchaser's state.

Ingman
07-15-2013, 17:56
What is the law on buying guns from another state? If I got it right it's like you can sale a gun to non-resident if the gun is complaint to the gun law the the purchaser's state.

Last I checked, the law for FFLs was something like:

1: No direct handgun sales to non-state residents (but you can arrange an FFL to FFL transfer).
2: Direct sales of long arms to non-state residents are fine.
3: It isn't the duty of the FFL to confirm that the long-arm would be legal in the purchaser's home state.

sabot_round
07-15-2013, 18:01
Walmart is afraid of selling a high capacity muzzle loader to a Colorado resident!![ROFL3] They're also afraid that you might convert it to full auto.

urbandiesel
07-15-2013, 21:05
South Dakota is the same way. They had a sign in the store in Spearfish stating no sales to Colorado residents. But the clerk said there are other states that they can not sell to as well. This was for long guns.

BPTactical
07-15-2013, 21:32
Throwing down a blanket policy on any states with any restrictions. Freaking stupid but cya on their part.
Vote with your wallet, spend your money elsewhere.

Great-Kazoo
07-15-2013, 22:09
Last I checked, the law for FFLs was something like:

1: No direct handgun sales to non-state residents (but you can arrange an FFL to FFL transfer).
2: Direct sales of long arms to non-state residents are fine.

ANY OUT OF STATE / NON RESIDENT MUST BE DONE THROUGH AN FFL
3: It isn't the duty of the FFL to confirm that the long-arm would be legal in the purchaser's home state.

Yes it is OR it's more a basic DO NOT SELL TO STATES.

TheWeeze
07-15-2013, 22:17
The way I see it is that Walmart didn't want to leave it up to their employees to determine if the firearm is legal in their state so to minimize the risk of accidentally selling an illegal gun to CO, they'd rather not sell any.

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mtnrider
07-15-2013, 22:33
The way I see it is that Walmart didn't want to leave it up to their employees to determine if the firearm is legal in their state so to minimize the risk of accidentally selling an illegal gun to CO, they'd rather not sell any.


Bingo! Don't blame Wal Mart (or any other seller) this is OUR problem not there's. They are just covering there ass as I would do.

Circuits
07-15-2013, 23:02
What is the law on buying guns from another state? If I got it right it's like you can sale a gun to non-resident if the gun is complaint to the gun law the the purchaser's state.

Non licensees may only purchase guns within their state of residence, except that they may purchase rifles or shotguns from FFLs in other states, provided both their state's laws and the FFL's state's laws permit the sale.

sniper7
07-16-2013, 00:05
We are one of those states now.

davsel
07-16-2013, 00:06
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

JM Ver. 2.0
07-16-2013, 01:27
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Yeah.... I'm sure posting it for a 1,000,000th time is definitely going to cause a spark in some liberals head... That spark is going to cause them to finally wake up to reality and stop being stupid. Yes.... You post that second ammendment. You post it proudly like you've never posted it before!!!




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KestrelBike
07-16-2013, 01:34
Throwing down a blanket policy on any states with any restrictions. Freaking stupid but cya on their part.
Vote with your wallet, spend your money elsewhere.

Yup. I spend my money at Bert's! [probably going to get night sights for a ruger soon :D]

Brian
07-16-2013, 03:15
Non licensees may only purchase guns within their state of residence, except that they may purchase rifles or shotguns from FFLs in other states, provided both their state's laws and the FFL's state's laws permit the sale.

+1

Q: From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?

A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms-frequently-asked-questions-unlicensed-persons#gca-unlicensed-transfer


Walmart can't sell you that AR-15 with the 30rd mag, but there should be no reason other than store policy for why they can't sell you a shotgun or whatever.

Goodburbon
07-16-2013, 06:03
Well I guess that cancels my plans this afternoon to pick up the $850 AR that I saw on the Walmart shelf yesterday.


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Aloha_Shooter
07-16-2013, 07:47
Throwing down a blanket policy on any states with any restrictions. Freaking stupid but cya on their part.
Vote with your wallet, spend your money elsewhere.

Not to put too fine a point on it but how many of us were okay with "don't sell anything to folks in Colorado or Massachusetts" last year? Hell, I'm still for that, we're just getting hoisted on our own petard because we elected or allowed others to elect these retards.

battle_sight_zero
07-16-2013, 07:50
My wife and I are getting our current house ready for sale. We are contemplating buying some land and home. That plan was to be in Colorado, I guess we will put that on hold until I retire in few years from my first career. I will not live in Commierado if it remains this way. Anyways have noticed stores are empty of ARs etc. Heck at 5280 on their Gunbroker auctions they on have 38 semi autos and none are ar15 rifles.

Great-Kazoo
07-16-2013, 08:09
My wife and I are getting our current house ready for sale. We are contemplating buying some land and home. That plan was to be in Colorado, I guess we will put that on hold until I retire in few years from my first career. I will not live in Commierado if it remains this way. Anyways have noticed stores are empty of ARs etc. Heck at 5280 on their Gunbroker auctions they on have 38 semi autos and none are ar15 rifles.

Maybe in your area, up here they are still available and selling. Not as fast as they use to , most if not, all the panic buyers blew their load prior to 7/1

battle_sight_zero
07-16-2013, 09:25
Maybe in your area, up here they are still available and selling. Not as fast as they use to , most if not, all the panic buyers blew their load prior to 7/1

I hope so. However in watching 5280s auctions on the 30th they had 148 semis they then pulled all their rifles with 15 round or more mags. Have not seen them restock. I like that store and half my evil black rifles were bought there over the years. Now I have heard Jensens is doing just fine and selling their rifles without mags, which just makes sense to me. I wish the other dealers would do the same. Hell many of us have many mags stored to ride out the idiot laws. On another note a friend inquired at that Castle Rock walmart about AR15s and was told they will no longer be sold in the Colorado stores. Sad the Walmart is taking this stance.

battle_sight_zero
07-16-2013, 09:28
Well I guess that cancels my plans this afternoon to pick up the $850 AR that I saw on the Walmart shelf yesterday.


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Was that on a Colo shelf?

davsel
07-16-2013, 10:01
Yeah.... I'm sure posting it for a 1,000,000th time is definitely going to cause a spark in some liberals head... That spark is going to cause them to finally wake up to reality and stop being stupid. Yes.... You post that second ammendment. You post it proudly like you've never posted it before!!!

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Circuits
07-16-2013, 10:04
Walmart can't sell you that AR-15 with the 30rd mag, but there should be no reason other than store policy for why they can't sell you a shotgun or whatever.
Walmart can in fact sell you that AR-15 with the 30rd mag. It's up to law-abiding Colorado residents not to bring that cursed death dealing massacre magazine back into the state with them.

james_bond_007
07-16-2013, 10:25
Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


Here, you are preaching to the choir.

You (I should say "WE ALL") need to post it on some of the liberal sites, where it might be more beneficial and informative...if they let you (us).

Goodburbon
07-16-2013, 10:32
Was that on a Colo shelf?

Carlsbad, NM.


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rbod
07-16-2013, 12:32
Well I guess that cancels my plans this afternoon to pick up the $850 AR that I saw on the Walmart shelf yesterday.


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Same happened to me at the Walmart in Laramie, last month. The Fly Shop in west Laramie has a nice little gun section and was happy to take my money.

trlcavscout
07-16-2013, 18:44
Why the hell would they want to deal with pickle puffing pot head anti-gun people from Colorado? I am surprised they haven't built a wall to keep us out yet, I wouldn't blame them! Kolorado has gone full retard with no sign of change. I am ashamed to live here.

JM Ver. 2.0
07-17-2013, 01:35
Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


Oooooo...... You even made it blue. You rebel, you.

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brokenscout
07-17-2013, 08:07
2A is out dated[Coffee]