m1 garand scope

[treboris]

id like to put a scope on my garand. does anyone know of any body that sells the side scope mounts? ill take used military or replica idc as long as it works.

[7idl]

nononononnonnonono

not on a wwII M1 !!!!!!!

Please, for the love of God and J.Garand, NO!

[treboris]

my garand isnt exactly ww2. the reciever is 1944, the barrel, trigger group and internal parts are from the 50's/60's. and my stock is from the 60's. its a frankenstein of garand parts. i really like the scopes on the garands because you can still use the peep sights.

[vim]

Here's a mix of good info and entertainment (http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=812750) on the topic.

[treboris]

thanks, it was very interesting but didnt help me find the mounts

[10x]

A WWII receiver means it is a WWII rifle. If you tap the receiver for a mount the value of the rifle will plummet. But it is your rifle to do with as you wish.

If you want a scoped rifle, you would be better off getting an M1A.

I don't know if anyone makes a side mount for an M1 anymore. Who would you get to tap the receiver and install it?

As a suggestion, google S&K mounts. Their M1 mount replaces the rear sight without damaging the rifle. Try it for a while to see if you can get used to the offset.

[Paradude54]

Have you given any thought to a Scout scope mount and scope set-up? You can do it without any modifications to the Garand. The best price for the mount is at the CMP website, http://estore.odcmp.com/Store/catalog/catalog.aspx?pg=product&ID=830&item=&sfv=&cat=&desc=scope+mount&udc=&mct=&vndr=&ba=&pmin=&pmax=&note1=&note2=&note3=&note4=&note5=&max=100

Just something to consider. Personally, I LOVE Scout scopes, but not all people like them.

[treboris]

i like the side scope better especially the one that leave my iron sites intact. i will be attending gunsmithing school soon so any work is not a problem. i love my garand and have no intentions of selling it so the value doesnt really matter too me.

[DOC]

If you aren't going to sell it you might as well deck it out like an M4 where the owner has to much money to burn.

[treboris]

If you aren't going to sell it you might as well deck it out like an M4 where the owner has to much money to burn.
i was thinking about that. my next step is to mount an 870 12 gauge on the bottom and a light on the side.

[DOC]

i was thinking about that. my next step is to mount an 870 12 gauge on the bottom and a light on the side.
While its a classic rifle and loved by many. It has its limits like a 8 round clip. But you might as well enjoy your gun and modify it the way you like. But just don't do anything that can't be undone.

[treboris]

exactly, its a great gun for its time but obselete compared to modern guns. not calling it useless though. i would love to take mine to iraq. . . . . with my 12 gauge on the bottom.

[DOC]

exactly, its a great gun for its time but obselete compared to modern guns. not calling it useless though. i would love to take mine to iraq. . . . . with my 12 gauge on the bottom.
30-06 is a fine round that should make a comeback. Same with the .45 ACP. There is no need to shoot an enemy more than once when you fighting for your life and ammo cache is a concern.

[treboris]

30-06 is a fine round that should make a comeback. Same with the .45 ACP. There is no need to shoot an enemy more than once when you fighting for your life and ammo cache is a concern.
but you can fit 3x as much 223 as 30-06 in a given amount of space. plus its way cheaper to produce.

[DOC]

I'm talking stopping power. If the enemy acts like a zombie and only goes down when you shoot him in the head what fun is that? A Garand on the other hand is just what the doctor ordered. Just make it magazine fed with a burst function. And if a soldier thinks it kicks to much give him the .308.

Just my opinion though.

[treboris]

oh yeah i agree with you about the stopping power, exactly why i said i would take my garand with me in iraq. only complaint ive ever heard was that a bandolier lets you know your out, it also lets the enemy know your out. . . . .

[DOC]

Ding!
But that is what the shotty underneath is for.

[treboris]

exactly. lol. maybe i should replace the peep sights with an eotec scope and slap an m203 on the side. just in case.

[DOC]

As long as its tacti-cool and can be switched back. And don't be like this guy either. Just click on the picture to shttp://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9707/stupidterrsf8.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stupidterrsf8.jpg)

[treboris]

nice, lol. im sure theres a shotgun on the other side. that reminds me of a story my friend in the marines told me. he said that one time he was on a patrol in iraq and he saw 5 terrorists standing in a group. he didnt know what they were doing so he started watching them. turns out they were setting up a bomb but they werent too good at it and they ended up blowing themselves up.

[lefty]

Is this what you are looking for? I have been looking for one for my Korean War era spingy too. http://www.galatiinternational.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=GIO&Product_Code=BS18554

CTD has one too http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/BSQ18554-34.html

Bill

[rondog]

The company that made the original scope mounts for the M1D sniper rifles in WWII is still in business, and still makes the same, identical mounts. Installs them too. But they're pricey as hell. I swear I have a bookmark for them, but can't find it or remember the name. I think I read about it on the CMP forum, but you're talking over $400 for the mount and installation. Then you have to find a scope.

Found it. $400 for the complete mount, and $250 for the installation, but it's supposedly just as authentic as one on a WWII sniper rifle. Hope you want one really bad. http://www.griffinhowe.com/mountsandpads.cfm Still doesn't include a scope.

[Scanker19]

who made your garand

[Cofaler]

I got a mix-master H&R Garand from the CMP years ago with some pretty deep pitting on the horseshoe and a tomato stake barrel. I'm a lefty and always wanted a scoped Garand, so I had my gunsmith mount a block to the new .308 barrel to which he then mounted a small piece of rail. I relieved the Boyd's lower hg and mounted a 4x Leupold handgun scope on it. I'm pretty much a purist when it comes to milsurps, I think that is the only non period-correct mod I've ever done to a military firearm, but it's fun to shoot and the rifle was the perfect candidate. No GI parts were harmed in the building of this rifle. I think I have a couple pics somewhere I'll try to get posted.

[rondog]

Ultimak is now offering a scout scope mount for Garands that doesn't modify or damage the rifle in any way. Simply replaces the rear handguard and clamps on, easily removed. I want one for my M1. Model M12, $185.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/misc%20M1%20Garands/M12LeuScoutinst.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/guns/misc%20M1%20Garands/M12CloseupWithMicro.jpg

[Cofaler]

Here's my scout Garand.



http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/Cofaler/DSC05218.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/Cofaler/DSC05216.jpghttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/Cofaler/DSC05214.jpg

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/Cofaler/DSC05217.jpg

[rondog]

Mounted right to the handguard, huh? How well's that work? Seems like there'd be some movement.

[Cofaler]

No, the barrel is drilled and tapped for a steel block, and then screwed the piece of rail to the block. I cut out the handguard around the block so it would clear.

[topshooter]

You will need to change the barrel .. the mount is on the barrel.. Very simple to do - does not hurt t he receiver - and you can always go back to the original configuration without hurting the rifle. Drilling the receiver for a scope mount is ludicris..yuk.. Can damage it.. Yes I know the D had the mount on the side..but that was a "D".... I have a "C" - with Mounts and scope.. It is on the barrel..easy to do....
Even Springfield -- The US ARMY Springfield - did not like the D...... top

[rondog]

Drilling and tapping? Cutting up the handguard? Changing the barrel? Sorry, I'll go with the M12 first.