Thank goodness for the new BGC laws!

[DingleBerns]

Now there are ten less guns in the hands of criminals.

http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/353826/346/10-gun-denials-in-first-month-of-universal-checks

[Rabid]

Two questions come to mind.
1. How many passed under the appeals process
2. How do they even know it was a private sale

[10mm-man]

Two questions come to mind.
1. How many passed under the appeals process
2. How do they even know it was a private sale


I can guarantee at least one of those got repealed. had a buddy come in got denied, appealed it; approved! Bunch of BS.... 9 and how many more got reversed because some newbie anti is kicking shit back!

[TAR31]

I will sleep better tonight knowing I am safer because of these wonderful laws pushed through by people that know what is best for me.

[Fromk]

Only 10 denials? That seems really low to me. That's a really low percentage of failures.

We all know there were probably just as many guns changing hands among criminals who simply ignore the laws as they have always done.

[T-Giv]

I for one sleep much better knowing Colorado's children are safe. If only the other reckless states of this country would follow suit!

[To Bear Arms]

Two questions come to mind.
1. How many passed under the appeals process
2. How do they even know it was a private sale

There is a question for the FFL who is entering the info for the BGC that ask's if it is a private or dealer sale.

[BPTactical]

BFD, I've seen at least 10 denials in a weekend at a gunshow, double that at an Aurora show.
At that average that means 120 per year.
Whoopee.
Non issue.
Stellar story 9 news, how did you manage to fit that in between the danger weather report, gay of the day story and the Broncos?

That's why I watch 7.
Never mind, they just ran it too.

[buffalobo]

Fluff piece, designed to discredit freedom and lend support to the ruling class. :mad::(

Sent from my electronic ball and chain.

[Gman]

That's why I watch 7.
Never mind, they just ran it too.
Just saw the bit on 7 news and they stated "only 10". They certainly didn't play it up like it was a big deal.

[Rucker61]

A more interesting number is the number of private sales compared to total gun sales. Remember the rallying cry of "40% of gun sales are private sales"? For the month in question, only 2.9% of the sales were private sales. And no arrests were noted, so any blocked criminals are still out on the street.

[Gman]

The 40% number is part of their mantra. From everything I've found, those numbers are pre-Brady Bill. If they're really private sales, there aren't any statistics to pull these "40%" numbers from. These private sales last month are only the ones they know about. Illegal sales from one criminal to another aren't in anybodies statistics.

[hatidua]

It'd be interesting to know the actual volume of guns being purchased/transferred in CO now vs. a year ago. Firearms seem to languish in the classified section here on CO-AR15 much longer than they used to.

[Rabid]

There is a question for the FFL who is entering the info for the BGC that ask's if it is a private or dealer sale.
Thank you, i did not know that.

[Clint45]

...how many more got reversed because some newbie anti is kicking shit back!

That happens. Back in another state, I'm aware of a county clerk who routinely shredded pistol permit applications for over a year before they finally found out what was going on.

[merl]

It'd be interesting to know the actual volume of guns being purchased/transferred in CO now vs. a year ago. Firearms seem to languish in the classified section here on CO-AR15 much longer than they used to.

Because now it is freaking PITA to buy a gun from someone.

Last year is was cash on the barrel & deal done. Minimal time and can happen anywhere.
Now it is a 1 hour investment waiting for the ffl to have time then the check to clear. (In addition to finding said FFL and forced to meet there)

[Dave]

Wasn't Von Miller denied a CBI check due to a warrant for a traffic court non appearance? Isn't that part of the statistics they are throwing around? I'd like to see why they were denied and see how many were failure to appear in court warrants, or failure to pay child support.

[rondog]

It amazes me that these anti's who are foaming over these "successes" can't seem to grasp that if Thug A has a stolen gun he wants to sell, and Thug B has money/drugs/goods/whatever that Thug A will accept, they're not going to bother with no damn BGC! These freakin' anti's seem to believe that these things just don't happen! Criminals MUST get their guns from honest gun owners who don't care who they're selling to! Blows my mind.

[ChunkyMonkey]

So that report contradicts another 9news report earlier this year that MOST of gun transactions in CO are out of sight, no BGC, and FTF.

561 private transaction vs 19596 store bought.

[Bailey Guns]

Over 2 months since the law went into effect. No one who failed a background check has attacked me with a 15+ round magazine that was manufactured after 7/1/2013. Apparently the laws are working.

[Gman]

Indeed. I sleep much better these days knowing how much safer I am. I may just shred my concealed carry permit.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Just because.... My grandfather was one of those 10... Denied due to expired driver's license. Got it renewed... Got approved... Yeah, that law REALLY helped....

[DeusExMachina]

There's a 57% average reversal rate for appeals, so if every person appealed, that's 4 people denied.

So safe.

[10mm-man]

Thank you, i did not know that.
But even that option is skewed. A gun coming in from let's say Gunbroker, from a dealer is marked as a private sale. Only if it is sold from the local FFL, the one conducting the BGC is it marked as a Dealer sell.

So they count the actual Private sales along with the out of state transfers together.

[Rabid]

But even that option is skewed. A gun coming in from let's say Gunbroker, from a dealer is marked as a private sale. Only if it is sold from the local FFL, the one conducting the BGC is it marked as a Dealer sell.

So they count the actual Private sales along with the out of state transfers together.
I guess a lot of people are not playing by the new rules with only 561 background checks then. [Beer]

[def90]

OK, did anyone catch what the article says? The whole drive to get universal background checks was that 40% of all guns purchased were via private sales. The article states that "private sales are a small fraction of the total number of background checks for gun purchases. The CBI processed 19596 background checks in July, only 561 of them were private sales.. Where's the 40%?

DENVER (AP) - The first month of background checks on private firearm sales in Colorado resulted in 10 denials for people with criminal records.

Statistics posted online by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation show the denials were in July - the first month universal background checks took effect. A total of 561 people requested criminal background checks on private sales that month. The CBI data did not specify the reason for the denials.

The data is the most recent available.

Private sales are a small fraction of the total number of background checks for gun purchases. CBI processed a total of 19,596 background checks in July. The denial rate of just under 2 percent is similar to the denial rate for private sales.

Democrats passed universal background checks in response to mass shootings last year.

[DD977GM2]

I cannot wait for this crap to be repealed [Bang] [headbang]

[Jer]

I guess a lot of people are not playing by the new rules with only 561 background checks then. [Beer]

[Sofa]

[merl]

I cannot wait for this crap to be repealed [Bang] [headbang]

Not gonna hold my breath for that day. Unless there is something special in the CO constitution to block such things, and we would have heard about it by now, these are the new baseline for the antis to work from. The fee to CBI is the only one that could possibly go away, via using the federal system instead.