View Full Version : The Hudak recall thread
Singlestack
09-22-2013, 13:27
Starting a new thread for the Hudak recall. Didn't think it was going to happen till I saw the Hudak recall people with a table at the Tanner yesterday, signing up volunteers. Made sure I signed up for that. Sounds like it will get rolling in about 2 weeks.
spqrzilla
09-22-2013, 14:00
Isn't this the second attempt?
bruceleroy
09-22-2013, 14:05
Wish I was home to help out. Good luck and I hope he is out soon!
Singlestack
09-22-2013, 14:19
Isn't this the second attempt?
Yup. Abandoned the first time to concentrate $$ and effort on the other two. A good call, in my opinion.
Rucker61
09-22-2013, 14:36
I can't remember: was Hudak the one who doesn't understand statistics and told the rape victim she couldn't have protected herself, or was she the one who said that verterans and active duty military are too full of PTSD to be trusted wtih 30 round magazines?
Bailey Guns
09-22-2013, 15:04
^^ She made the "statistics are against you" comment to the sex assault victim.
SuperiorDG
09-22-2013, 15:11
She's the one that looks like Jabba the Hutt
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Bailey Guns
09-22-2013, 15:37
That's hardly a fair comparison. Jabba doesn't wear glasses.
Didn't she also scream at a 13 year-old girl, on the girl's front lawn, over the girl's mother removing a Hudak sign?
Didn't she also scream at a 13 year-old girl, on the girl's front lawn, over the girl's mother removing a Hudak sign?
That's the one. That happened during her election campaign.
She epitomizes the true sense of the word C*NT.
^^ She made the "statistics are against you" comment to the sex assault victim.
She's just jealous that she can't get any...
Singlestack
09-22-2013, 15:44
up, thats the one. A bad human being.
Dropped a five in their donation box at Tanner today. At least I hope that's what I hope it was for and not a beer run. [Coffee]
Hudak confronted and intimidated the 14 year old girl, even pushing her way into the family home after the teen insisted that her parents were not home.
muddywings
09-22-2013, 18:26
is BFDF helping with funding? how do I (we) throw some $$ at this?
jerrymrc
09-22-2013, 18:39
She's just jealous that she can't get any...
Thought you said you would take one for the team. [pick-me][LOL][Puke]
Anyone know where I can get recall petitions for this? Do they have a website? I have a well connected coworker who knows a lot of people in the Arvada area (I believe this is her district) that would love to sign it.
Anyone know where I can get recall petitions for this? Do they have a website? I have a well connected coworker who knows a lot of people in the Arvada area (I believe this is her district) that would love to sign it.
Same. lots of like minded family members in Arvada.
halletts
09-22-2013, 20:16
Was unaware of the specifics regarding the original Hudak recall attempt, but this website looks like it's trying to light the fire again...
http://www.recallhudak.com/
muddywings
09-22-2013, 21:01
Was unaware of the specifics regarding the original Hudak recall attempt, but this website looks like it's trying to light the fire again...
http://www.recallhudak.com/
I'm all for kicking her to the curb but the website...well, ummmm....I guess I would rather see it focus on Hudak and not past history.
20,000 is no small task. Ask the guys, in Pueblo and C Springs. They had a lot less signatures and it was no easy task.
Good luck though...kick her to the curb!
ETA: nothing directed to halletts. I know he just posted the link....
XC700116
09-22-2013, 21:22
Hudak confronted and intimidated the 14 year old girl, even pushing her way into the family home after the teen insisted that her parents were not home.
She should have been arrested and charged with Burglery and assault for that.
I'm all for kicking her to the curb but the website...well, ummmm....I guess I would rather see it focus on Hudak and not past history.
20,000 is no small task. Ask the guys, in Pueblo and C Springs. They had a lot less signatures and it was no easy task.
Good luck though...kick her to the curb!
ETA: nothing directed to halletts. I know he just posted the link....
Agree. I could do without the vitriol. Seems another person with seemingly good intentions just can't resist dividing the troops. Must be taking writing lessons from Dudley.
DavieD55
09-23-2013, 00:20
Agree. I could do without the vitriol. Seems another person with seemingly good intentions just can't resist dividing the troops. Must be taking writing lessons from Dudley.
Who is dividing the troops?
muddywings
09-23-2013, 07:32
Who is dividing the troops?
The guys who are running the site...would be my guess. Remember, the greatest lessons learned are from failures. Maybe the folks taking over the recall effort should speak with those who started and failed. Find out what worked, what didn't work, where the weak points are, what can be improved etc. Instead they spent half the website attacking those who couldn't bring it to fruition. Granted, I don't know anything about the first attempt, but it is a bit of a turn off. They might get some of the foot soldiers who helped initially come back and try if they try honey instead of.....
Thought you said you would take one for the team. [pick-me][LOL][Puke]
Now, that is just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
[Puke]
Singlestack
09-23-2013, 15:18
The guys who are running the site...would be my guess. Remember, the greatest lessons learned are from failures. Maybe the folks taking over the recall effort should speak with those who started and failed. Find out what worked, what didn't work, where the weak points are, what can be improved etc. Instead they spent half the website attacking those who couldn't bring it to fruition. Granted, I don't know anything about the first attempt, but it is a bit of a turn off. They might get some of the foot soldiers who helped initially come back and try if they try honey instead of.....
I suspect $$ is at the root of this. The new organizers want to try to make sure ALL of the donations go to them, and not the formers...
The guys running this new Recall Hudak site seem to be more pissed at the people who started the last recall effort than at Hudak herself. I am all for recalling her, but this just seems dumb! If nothing else, team up with that other group! Is it that hard to fight toward the same objective? Personally, I think the effort would be best to find a good Pro2A candidate to boot her out. At this point even if a recalll happens, her replacement will only be in office for a few months before they have to go through the election process.
Great-Kazoo
09-25-2013, 16:59
Now, that is just WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
[Puke]
There's a reason god invented light switches. Take 5 naked women , stand them on their head, and they all look related.
She epitomizes the true sense of the word C*NT.
Very offensive. C*nt's the world over have just been egregiously insulted. You should apologize immediately.
Very offensive. C*nt's the world over have just been egregiously insulted. You should apologize immediately.
I hereby apologize to all the c**ts of the world for the nefarious insult to you and your kind by including Jabba the Hudak as one of your own.
Didn't they try to get the signatures while the other recall petitions were out?
http://kdvr.com/2013/10/04/recall-effort-begins-against-state-sen-evie-hudak/ (http://kdvr.com/2013/10/04/recall-effort-begins-against-state-sen-evie-hudak/)
I wonder who is heading this up. I would hope they will swallow their pride and take from the examples that have been set before them. I pray this is not just for their own publicity.
mountainjenny
10-05-2013, 09:21
I believe they initially shut down the efforts to recall Hudak to help with the Morse and Giron recalls.
Aloha_Shooter
10-05-2013, 09:36
They had shut down the Hudak effort because the volunteer-only effort wasn't getting enough signatures fast enough under the 60-day timeline. They've learned a lot of lessons (like just how tight that 60 day timeline gets and the importance of vetting the signatures as you get them). This is worth doing, they just need to plan out the work and timelines so they can get it done -- very hard with volunteer labor but even worse if you don't have everything ready to go before you drop the petition off at the Secretary of State.
Many of the Hudak recall volunteers came down south to help out with Morse and Giron. I plan on going up north to help them when I have time.
Evil Hudak needs to go -- strike while the iron's hot.
JM Ver. 2.0
10-05-2013, 10:05
They had shut down the Hudak effort because the volunteer-only effort wasn't getting enough signatures fast enough under the 60-day timeline. They've learned a lot of lessons (like just how tight that 60 day timeline gets and the importance of vetting the signatures as you get them). This is worth doing, they just need to plan out the work and timelines so they can get it done -- very hard with volunteer labor but even worse if you don't have everything ready to go before you drop the petition off at the Secretary of State.
Many of the Hudak recall volunteers came down south to help out with Morse and Giron. I plan on going up north to help them when I have time.
Evil Hudak needs to go -- strike while the iron's hot.
I'm going to PM you my number... Tell me when and where... I live in her district.
OtterbatHellcat
10-05-2013, 10:13
lol
ZERO THEORY
10-05-2013, 11:28
Don't forget her suggestion of "flipping a coin" for a $1 billion dollar education incentive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb8-xCBWkDo
There is a recallhudaktoo.org and facebook site now claiming to be the "official" recall effort. They claim to have an SOS approved recall petition.
http://www.recallhudaktoo.org/
https://www.facebook.com/recallhudaktoo?hc_location=stream
Does anyone know who the proper organizers for this recall effort really are? Seems the one first posted here is still engaged in bad mouthing the one I linked above. recallhudaktoo is taking donations and also seems to have more known backers - (yea, Dudley's in there but whatever.)
I'll post my last post in that thread here.
"There is a recallhudaktoo.org and facebook site now claiming to be the "official" recall effort. They claim to have an SOS approved recall petition.
http://www.recallhudaktoo.org/
https://www.facebook.com/recallhudak...ocation=stream (https://www.facebook.com/recallhudaktoo?hc_location=stream)
Does anyone know who the proper organizers for this recall effort really are? Seems the one first posted here is still engaged in bad mouthing the one I linked above. recallhudaktoo is taking donations and also seems to have more known backers - (yea, Dudley's in there but whatever.)"
Aloha_Shooter
10-05-2013, 14:54
Ugh, they submitted their petition for SoS approval already before getting their volunteer base in order? So they're going to be in the final stages of collecting signatures while people are thinking about Thanksgiving? That's bloody marvelous. I'll do what I can to help them but I have a bad feeling about this ...
ZERO THEORY
10-05-2013, 15:22
Does anyone know who the proper organizers for this recall effort really are?
Mike McAlpine. I worked with him doing volunteer recruiting during the first attempt. I haven't gotten in touch with him again, but the recall is up and running again as of today. I spoke with Susan, who is working with him, this afternoon. RMGO has apparently pledged to hire paid petitioners if the volunteer base isn't properly established, but I think this is a case of Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
mountainjenny
10-05-2013, 18:07
The have to collect a large number of signatures. I'm betting it will take paid help even if they have a good volunteer base. Wishing them luck and if time frees up I will volunteer again.
I'd be all for the recall but is it "going to the trough" one too many times?
hurley842002
10-05-2013, 18:42
I'd be all for the recall but is it "going to the trough" one too many times?
This thought has ran through my head a few times. We've got some momentum for the midterms after the first recalls. I think Hudak will be tougher, and if the recall is unsuccessful, does that swing momentum back to the Dems?
This thought has ran through my head a few times. We've got some momentum for the midterms after the first recalls. I think Hudak will be tougher, and if the recall is unsuccessful, does that swing momentum back to the Dems?
The first recall election in CO history was successful. The message was sent. I'd hate to loose that momentum by being greedy. Take care of business at the next election.
electronman1729
10-05-2013, 20:24
You sign near 88th and Garrison street. Near the sideways sports lounge. Saw them out this morning near my house
DavieD55
10-05-2013, 21:26
The reckless behavior demonstrated by Senator Hudak during consideration of SB13-213 is absolutely disturbing.
Don't forget her suggestion of "flipping a coin" for a $1 billion dollar education incentive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb8-xCBWkDo
This will be one that will need a lot of help. Not because she is entrenched, but I think due to the population of her district we will need a lot to get her out. If this is organized I will be willing to throw a couple bucks at this for sure.
Correct me if I am wrong but if she is replaced with an R, it would then be even in terms of votes right? No more crazy gun bills could get passed then? I have no doubt that the Ds would make her step down as to not risk losing her seat.
This will be one that will need a lot of help. Not because she is entrenched, but I think due to the population of her district we will need a lot to get her out. If this is organized I will be willing to throw a couple bucks at this for sure.
Correct me if I am wrong but if she is replaced with an R, it would then be even in terms of votes right? No more crazy gun bills could get passed then? I have no doubt that the Ds would make her step down as to not risk losing her seat.
An R replacement flips the balance.
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The first recall election in CO history was successful. The message was sent. I'd hate to loose that momentum by being greedy. Take care of business at the next election.
Wouldn't flipping Hudak's seat take away the majority? Right now the only thing stopping Dems from ramming through more awful crap is their fear of re-election. Bloomy could give them each a million bucks they day after they leave office.
Threads need a merge.
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/116053-The-Hudak-recall-thread
This thread needs a merge.
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/116967-Another-attempt-at-recalling-Hudak
If you're an active or retired Firefighter, you should be ashamed of what your representative group is doing re: contributing to the Dems. http://www.followthemoney.org/database/StateGlance/contributor.phtml?d=1975909343
SamuraiCO
10-06-2013, 13:10
If the Dems who voted against those bills the first time would be smart to bring them up when back in session.
Don't think she will get the help from national interests because of the outcomes of the last efforts.
I say keep the recalls going. Don't let them regroup and hurt our efforts with the next election. Keep driving the stake into this vampire of a political ideology it's not dead yet.
I will send money as well for the recalls.
If they get the certified sigs, expect her to resign. There's no way they're going to chance giving up that seat.
Even that outcome will be better than doing nothing, and getting rid of that vile, evil excuse for a human being is something.
kidicarus13
10-09-2013, 08:07
http://news.yahoo.com/third-colorado-lawmaker-faces-possible-recall-gun-control-110109560.html
never turn down an opportunityto clean house. Even if she does resign sends a good message to the district not to let a repeat occur at the next election
kidicarus13
10-09-2013, 10:38
Don't forget her suggestion of "flipping a coin" for a $1 billion dollar education incentive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb8-xCBWkDo
I wish everyone in her district could see that video. Dumb B
ChuckNorris
10-09-2013, 16:44
I wish everyone in her district could see that video. Dumb B
You should send that email to all of the TV outlets - see if anyone bites on playing it!
buffalobo
10-09-2013, 16:58
Arrogant scum sucking bitch.
Hudak recall folks will be at Tanner this weekend.
Interview with one of the Hudak recall leaders.
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/10/09/colorado-gun-rights-advocates-seek-ouster-democratic-lawmaker
Interview with one of the Hudak recall leaders.
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/10/09/colorado-gun-rights-advocates-seek-ouster-democratic-lawmaker
We need more people that come across like this guy. Great interview.
buffalobo
10-10-2013, 16:48
Interview with one of the Hudak recall leaders.
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/10/09/colorado-gun-rights-advocates-seek-ouster-democratic-lawmaker
Very good interview.
Got some chick-fil-a and signed, 80th and Wadsworth. Also have a set up @63rd and Ward.A
I signed at Tanner this past weekend.
I'm hearing reports about communists telling petitioners that the petitioner needs a permit. When the petitioner says they (the petitioner) don't need a permit the commie is flipping the bird.
How long before the actions of the communists escalate to threats, intimidation, and violence?
spqrzilla
10-14-2013, 10:38
About a day, now that Hickenlooper is selling Hudak's Sugar Daddy Bloomberg down the river. Bwaahaaahaa.
This is the USA Today version of the story spqrzilla is talking about.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/10/14/colorado-gov-hickenlooper-suggests-gun-control-groups-stay-away-from-recall/2969257/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/10/14/colorado-gov-hickenlooper-suggests-gun-control-groups-stay-away-from-recall/2969257/)
:)
Aloha_Shooter
10-14-2013, 11:22
Wow ... Hick actually got it. He's still operating as an extremist dictator but at least he understands the Bloomberg and anti-gun money and connections are actually a negative for him. In a way, he reminds me of Jimmy Carter leaving office saying he had no idea how repressive and underhanded the Soviet Union was (yeah, that was a major part of your problem Jimmy!).
50/50 Hicky. Still can't make a decision. What a spineless fuck.
Jesus-With-A-.45
10-14-2013, 12:15
50/50 Hicky. Still can't make a decision. What a spineless fuck.
x's 2,000,000,000 Fuck him.
Bailey Guns
10-14-2013, 13:07
Wow ... Hick actually got it. He's still operating as an extremist dictator but at least he understands the Bloomberg and anti-gun money and connections are actually a negative for him.
You think so? I'm probably more inclined to think the gov supports outside influence and help but might be saying what he did in an attempt to "win over" a little public opinion that was obviously against the outside groups like MAIG. But I'm a cynic.
You think so? I'm probably more inclined to think the gov supports outside influence and help but might be saying what he did in an attempt to "win over" a little public opinion that was obviously against the outside groups like MAIG. But I'm a cynic.
He is nothing if not a political animal at the core. I don't think you are being cynical. You just looked at the evidence. :)
SuperiorDG
10-14-2013, 13:31
Went to sign it today and guess what, I live about 100 yards outside her district.
Aloha_Shooter
10-14-2013, 14:58
You think so? I'm probably more inclined to think the gov supports outside influence and help but might be saying what he did in an attempt to "win over" a little public opinion that was obviously against the outside groups like MAIG. But I'm a cynic.
Of course he supports outside influence -- what I'm saying he got was the fact that in these recalls, knowledge of the outside influence from gun control groups hurt the Dems. Morse, Giron, etc. are still in denial about that.
JM Ver. 2.0
10-14-2013, 16:44
Signed this today.
spqrzilla
10-14-2013, 17:12
Hickenlooper is just thinking about 2014 and trying to put distance between himself and Bloomberg for his own reelection. He does not give a crap about anyone else.
Great-Kazoo
10-14-2013, 22:14
Hickenlooper is just thinking about 2014 and trying to put distance between himself and Bloomberg for his own reelection. He does not give a crap about anyone else.
That's a politician. His mea culpa might have some fooled, however the death sentence, admitting the magazine law does nothing, AFTER SIGNING IT, puts his chances of another term, in to the gray area.
Amendment 66, if passed will give hick another term, if it fails, he's teetering real close to embarrassing defeat.
The only thing Hick can do to somewhat get me back on his side is find a way to undo all of the BS that was passed last legislative session, get rid of Denver's AWB, kill that prick on deathrow, and bend over backwards to get more firearms related companies to come to this state.
buffalobo
10-14-2013, 23:42
The only thing Hick can do to somewhat get me back on his side is find a way to undo all of the BS that was passed last legislative session, get rid of Denver's AWB, kill that prick on deathrow, and bend over backwards to get more firearms related companies to come to this state.
Not asking for much are you? [Coffee]
Bailey Guns
10-15-2013, 05:09
The only thing Hick can do to somewhat get me back on his side is find a way to undo all of the BS that was passed last legislative session, get rid of Denver's AWB, kill that prick on deathrow, and bend over backwards to get more firearms related companies to come to this state.
So, you were on his side, he fucked over all gun owners hard (and the citizens of the state in general), you're not on his side now, but you'd go back to being on his side? That's more than a little disturbing.
And, BTW...the gov has nothing to do with Denver city ordinances.
Let me be clear, I was never on his side... Bad wording on my part. I do like to try and have some faith from time to time or at least give someone a chance until they show their true colors. Up until this year, hick hasn't done anything to really upset me but this was a bad year for Hick.
And I know he can't undo most of that stuff, especially the Denver thing, but he sure could have some pull if he really wanted to.
My point is, he is nothing but a problem for gun owners and Americans in general and now that he has infringed, he is doing his best to try and get most people to forget about it and act like he is on the side of the gunowners. Expect more of this from every Dem in office the closer elections come around. "Yeah, I may have taken your rights, but I am pro 2A!"
You know with Hick distancing himself from Bloomberg/MAIG, I wonder if that could be used as leverage against the various other Colorado politicians who belong to MAIG.
Even if they don't take support from MAIG, a connection to them could be an uncomfortable thing to have to publicly admit during a campaign.
Petition signing available at 72nd and Simms today.
You know with Hick distancing himself from Bloomberg/MAIG, I wonder if that could be used as leverage against the various other Colorado politicians who belong to MAIG.
Even if they don't take support from MAIG, a connection to them could be an uncomfortable thing to have to publicly admit during a campaign.
I was kind of wondering the same thing myself. Face it, aside from the gun stuff this year (which is HUGE mind you) I haven't had too much of a problem with what he's done. Let's face it, there are FAR worse Dems out there that could have really jacked things up for us. He didn't HAVE to come out publicly against that so I'm wondering if that could actually help us moving forward. I mean, it's certainly better than him coming out in full support.
Hick was a lot more tolerable back when he was presented as a pro-business, pro-energy development social liberal.
Hick was a lot more tolerable back when he was presented as a pro-business, pro-energy development social liberal.
When the rubber hits the road, a liberal is, well, a liberal.
There probably is NO party that represents the actual mainstream American who says: "Keep your paws off my guns, my wallet and who I choose to sleep with."
Mark, there is, but only cranks who don't buy into the sports team tribalism of modern politics ever vote for them.
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james_bond_007
10-15-2013, 15:38
I've been to the recall hudec too site and did not see a signature tally posted.
Where can I see a tally of the signatures collected, to date, and signatures needed ?
From the Recall Hudak Too Facebook page:
"In response to all of the inquiries, after 10 days, we are doing very well with signature collection. We will not have a verified count for another couple of weeks. In advance of the cold weather and the holidays, WE NEED MASSIVE TURNOUT NOW for volunteer signature gatherers. Join us this Saturday and Sunday starting at 8am – We want to blow this out of the water and cook this turkey before Thanksgiving. Our next goal is a 2,000-SIGNATURE WEEKEND. Bring your friends. Top 2 signature gatherers this weekend get $100 gift certificates to local gun shops and lots of RMGO swag for all. If you can't come, send another and donate. Thanks!"
james_bond_007
10-15-2013, 17:02
From the Recall Hudak Too Facebook page:
"In response to all of the inquiries, after 10 days, we are doing very well with signature collection. We will not have a verified count for another couple of weeks. In advance of the cold weather and the holidays, WE NEED MASSIVE TURNOUT NOW for volunteer signature gatherers. Join us this Saturday and Sunday starting at 8am – We want to blow this out of the water and cook this turkey before Thanksgiving. Our next goal is a 2,000-SIGNATURE WEEKEND. Bring your friends. Top 2 signature gatherers this weekend get $100 gift certificates to local gun shops and lots of RMGO swag for all. If you can't come, send another and donate. Thanks!"
Thanks. I avoid Facebook, Twitter, etc. like the plague, and they did not come up in my searches.
(SARCASM: "Here, let me put personal info about me and my family, along with their photos and typical activities, times when they are not at home, what kind of cars they drive, and when we will be out of town on vacation on the public internet. I'm sure no one "bad" will be able to get a hold of the info and Facebook will assure the safety and security of me and my family")
[Sarcasm2]
I'll keep my eye on the Facebook site for this (in a "read only" fashion).
There is a voter intimidation movement running against the petitioners. People are trying to intimidate both the petition signer and the petition gatherer.
Bailey Guns
10-22-2013, 07:58
There is a voter intimidation movement running against the petitioners. People are trying to intimidate both the petition signer and the petition gatherer.
Get out... Where'd you hear something crazy like that.
Get out... Where'd you hear something crazy like that.
Oops, my bad. The petitioners must be picking on the poor communists again, petitioners are big meanies. :)
BPTactical
10-22-2013, 09:40
There is a voter intimidation movement running against the petitioners. People are trying to intimidate both the petition signer and the petition gatherer.
If there was ever a time for an "Accidental Hip Check"..........
"Oops, new boots, sorry 'bout that......"
[shit-happens]
This situation calls for video cameras, lots of video cameras, plus doxxing of those involved in intimating the petitioners.
spqrzilla
10-22-2013, 14:52
This situation calls for video cameras, lots of video cameras, plus doxxing of those involved in intimating the petitioners.
This.
Today is a video world. Video is king.
There were a couple of petitioners by my house this afternoon and I stopped by to thank them. The one guy I talked to said that some of the women petitioners were getting the attention, he'd had a couple of people make some gestures and he just waves at them.
It would appear to me that the ultra-brave [sic] and courageous [sic] communists are picking on the women petitioners and leaving the guys alone.
Channel 7 News tonight said something about the Democrat Party is pressuring Hudak to resign rather than risk recall. Something about if she quits, they can replace her with another Communi - er, Democrat, instead of a Republican getting the seat if she's recalled. She's saying "Hell no, I won't go!"
More to follow tomorrow in the Denver Wipe - er, Post.
SuperiorDG
10-23-2013, 07:30
Channel 7 News tonight said something about the Democrat Party is pressuring Hudak to resign rather than risk recall. Something about if she quits, they can replace her with another Communi - er, Democrat, instead of a Republican getting the seat if she's recalled. She's saying "Hell no, I won't go!"
More to follow tomorrow in the Denver Wipe - er, Post.
The headline says it all: In Colorado, another recall effort over guns seeks GOP Senate control
So it's all about the guns. Her being an assclown has nothing to do with it.
Read more: In Colorado, another recall effort over guns seeks GOP Senate control - The Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_24366830/colorado-another-recall-effort-over-guns-seeks-gop#ixzz2iYGEBwqk) http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_24366830/colorado-another-recall-effort-over-guns-seeks-gop#ixzz2iYGEBwqk
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dirtrulz
10-23-2013, 07:31
Likely she has the same thinking as the last ones, she cant lose, they were wrong and hopefully she will be too. Watching Giron lose by a huge margin was the highlight of my year, would have loved to laugh in her face. Especially considering her own party voted her out.
BPTactical
10-23-2013, 08:09
^^^ This is the part of this entire process that irks me. Sure the anti 2A legislation is a contributing factor but in reality this is about a non-representative set of elected officials.
I think Evies handlers realize if this goes to a vote, she is toast. She goes and they lose their majority.
They will leverage her hard to resign, she does and her handlers can replace her with a minion of their choice and keep the majority.
Great-Kazoo
10-23-2013, 08:28
The headline says it all: In Colorado, another recall effort over guns seeks GOP Senate control
So it's all about the guns. Her being a sanctimonious, elitist , assclown has nothing to do with it.
Read more: In Colorado, another recall effort over guns seeks GOP Senate control - The Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_24366830/colorado-another-recall-effort-over-guns-seeks-gop#ixzz2iYGEBwqk) http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_24366830/colorado-another-recall-effort-over-guns-seeks-gop#ixzz2iYGEBwqk
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james_bond_007
10-23-2013, 08:35
From the clips I've seen, she seems to always think she is "...the smartest person in the room".
EX . "Flip a coin", "Statistics are not on your side", and many more, etc.
She so smug that she believes she's "too smart", and too "politically savvy" to have her district vote her out.
She believes she's smarter and better than Giron and Morse and will show THEM and the party "How things are done by a "pro" like her."
She has an ego problem that she can't overcome no matter how hard the party tries to get her to do what is best for the Dems.
I think because of this, she would not heed party warnings to resign so they can appoint another party member and keep senate control and "go the distance' with an election (should it come to that.
Let's hope the Republicans can exploit this vulnerability of hers to their advantage.
BPTactical
10-23-2013, 09:24
Let's hope the Republicans can exploit this vulnerability of hers to their advantage.
[ROFL1]
But your point on ego is a valid one.
SamuraiCO
10-23-2013, 12:52
The Repubs forgot took their base for granted. They wanted to award friends through crony capitalism and again got kicked out not on Republican ideals but being Dem light.
There is NO WAY this will ever get to a vote. The only two outcomes are either 1. fail to get enough signatures and its all a moot point, or 2. (hopefully) get the signatures and then she will resign and the Dems will place another gun grabbing tool bag in her seat.
Love the recall effort though, if nothing else it will make some politicians think twice about not listening to their employers.
The big thing will be to Vote out whatever Dem is keeping her seat warm during the next election.
osok-308
10-24-2013, 09:52
Let's get Jabba the Slut out of office.
Zundfolge
10-24-2013, 11:15
There is NO WAY this will ever get to a vote. The only two outcomes are either 1. fail to get enough signatures and its all a moot point, or 2. (hopefully) get the signatures and then she will resign and the Dems will place another gun grabbing tool bag in her seat.
This is the same thing that was said about Morse ... thing is Hudak's ego/hubris/arrogance is on par with if not greater than Morse, so there's a good chance that she'll stay and fight for "her" seat.
How is the signature gathering going? Does the 18,000 look do-able? I checked the facebook page but didn't see any mention of how it's going?
Lex_Luthor
10-24-2013, 15:19
I just stopped and signed the petition this morning. Wish I could have dropped some cash to the effort, but couldn't. There were a couple locations in the Westminster area today. Off 80th and Wadsworth and off 88th and Wads.
This is the same thing that was said about Morse ... thing is Hudak's ego/hubris/arrogance is on par with if not greater than Morse, so there's a good chance that she'll stay and fight for "her" seat.
Mark my words, if they get enogh signatures in this one to require a recall election, she will step down. No way they risk losing the majority. I know it was said about the other two but this is for the majority and that was back when they thought they were untouchable. Know they know the will of the people can put them out on the street. We may hate them, but they are not stupid when it comes to playing the politics game.
osok-308
10-25-2013, 09:56
Mark my words, if they get enogh signatures in this one to require a recall election, she will step down. No way they risk losing the majority. I know it was said about the other two but this is for the majority and that was back when they thought they were untouchable. Know they know the will of the people can put them out on the street. We may hate them, but they are not stupid when it comes to playing the politics game.
Let's hope that you're right KAPA
Zundfolge
10-25-2013, 09:59
Let's hope that you're right KAPA
I hope he's wrong because I'd love to see the dems get burned by their own hubris. If Hudak is recalled she will likely lose the recall vote.
At this point I wouldn't put money on either position though (Hudak resigns vs Hudak fights).
osok-308
10-25-2013, 10:30
I hope he's wrong because I'd love to see the dems get burned by their own hubris. If Hudak is recalled she will likely lose the recall vote.
At this point I wouldn't put money on either position though (Hudak resigns vs Hudak fights).
I get that. To be honest, I mostly care that she gets ousted. Hopefully Colorado can be an example for other states. We can show others what to do when their elected officials no longer represent them.
Here is how they will spin it. Once the signatures are verified that a recall will be allowed, they will have her step down and the Dems will say that they now hear the people loud and clear and because the people spoke up and said that they wanted her removed, they will listen to the people of the state and she will step down saving taxpayers millions of dollars by avoiding a recall election.
Notice the part where I said they wanted her removed... In no way will they come out and say that "because of her stance on gun laws" we will put this new stooge in her place who wants to repeal the gun laws and the other mess that was passed in the last legislative cycle. They will make it about her and her facebooking during meetings or whatever other goof offs she was caught doing. They will keep trucking along without missing a beat as long as they have the majority. Hell who knows what they can pass next year when they start passing more laws... What is to stop them?
osok-308
10-26-2013, 12:35
Anyone know how many more signatures they need to recall this skank?
spqrzilla
10-26-2013, 15:55
Seeing Hudak resign upon a successful petition drive would be a success IMO. Not as good as seeing her pulled out by the recall election but better than losing a recall election.
It would reinforce the message sent with Morse and Giron to Democrats that Bloomberg's money is not insulation from consequences.
I hope it goes to an election and she gets a fat boot to her fat ass.
trlcavscout
10-29-2013, 16:38
So after seeing more shit from these pussy's trying to intimidate and scare people I have came to the conclusion that I need to come down there and help. I really hate me some bully's, especially the ones that piss them selves when confronted. Where is most of this crap going on? I think me, glock21, lpgasman, and Jim with his cane should go work a corner hahaha
I'm down for a road trip!
I passed some petitioners at 80th and Wadsworth earlier today. Thank you petitioners.
There were a couple of morons there but they didn't appear to be making trouble.
Rooskibar03
10-30-2013, 19:59
More intimidating from the progressives. We've got them scared
http://www.9news.com/news/article/362512/339/Recall-supporters-highlight-scare-tactic-
Zundfolge
10-30-2013, 20:25
I love how these tactics are a-ok (only when done by Demonrats of course), but simply suggesting that the state require a photo ID to vote is evil, racist voter suppression.
More intimidating from the progressives. We've got them scared
http://www.9news.com/news/article/362512/339/Recall-supporters-highlight-scare-tactic-
Didn't they do that in Morse's district too?
Great-Kazoo
10-30-2013, 22:59
Didn't they do that in Morse's district too?
Yes with stellar results. Shit like that only embarrasses you. Be a real person, survive a potential recall or GTFO.
BPTactical
10-31-2013, 08:22
More intimidating from the progressives. We've got them scared
http://www.9news.com/news/article/362512/339/Recall-supporters-highlight-scare-tactic-
There is a telling statement in this article and that is "if that's what it takes to stop the recall, I'm all for it".
They will eat their own to stop it.
Somebody involved with this needs to counter to the media that the anti recall folks are photographing supporters and other such "intimidation" tactics.
What are the numbers at. How close are we?
dirtrulz
11-01-2013, 08:48
I really wish I lived in her district Just so I could vote against her. The more of this her supporters do the more I see it as her having a reason to be scared, she and her supporters do not think she can win based on her convictions.
Singlestack
11-02-2013, 07:12
I've got a feeling Bloomy isn't "all-in" for the Hudak, like he was for Morse.
Called some family that live in her district to see if they signed and the response was "You bet your ass we did!"
Zundfolge
11-02-2013, 10:12
Called some family that live in her district to see if they signed and the response was "You bet your ass we did!"
Your avatar makes that response double plus funny :D
What are the numbers at. How close are we?
x2
anaphylaxis
11-03-2013, 07:22
FWIW, Here's the email I received from them yesterday... Nothing new, just looking for donations to keep the efforts going.
I've got good news and bad news.
The good news is the Recall Effort is well on the path to success. We've got boots on the ground and we're making great progress collecting signatures.
__________________, I can't thank you enough.
The truth is, without the help of volunteers like you, this Recall Effort wouldn't be possible.
However, as you may have seen, and heard, radical left wing special interests are on the march, picketing street corners with anti-Constitution propaganda, cursing at women and children holding recall signs, and even blocking innocent citizens from getting out of their vehicles to sign the petition.
This is why I'm hoping I can count on your continued support.
You see, these leftist groups aren't going to stop anytime soon.
In fact, we have confirmation that they're busing in Chicago-style community organizers to harass and intimidate honest citizens who are only trying to take part in our Constitutional process.
There's no doubt about it, now is the time to redouble our efforts and send these extremists packing!
Can I count on you to chip in $15 or $20 to help the Recall Hudak team beat back these orchestrated attacks?
http://www.recallhudaktoo.org/
Your contribution will help grow a grassroots network large enough to drown all opposition.
So please, consider chipping in $15 or $20 today.
Of course if you can give more, we will make sure every penny goes towards making this effort a success.
After all, it's up to patriots like us to safeguard liberty for our children and grandchildren.
Again, thank you for all you are doing, and keep up the good work! We can do this!
Sincerely,
Mike McAlpine
P.S. Left wing special interests are on the march, picketing street corners with anti-Constitution propaganda, cursing at women and children holding recall signs, and even blocking innocent citizens from getting out of their vehicles to sign the petition.
We need your help!!!
Can I count on you to chip in $15 or $20 to help the Recall Hudak team beat back these orchestrated attacks?
Paid for by the committee to Recall Hudak Too
11651 W. 64th Ave. E1, Arvada, CO 80002
SuperiorDG
11-03-2013, 08:00
Your avatar makes that response double plus funny :D
Its a Lama
Contribution made. Recall this nutter.
Cujo0920
11-03-2013, 15:32
The Repubs forgot took their base for granted. They wanted to award friends through crony capitalism and again got kicked out not on Republican ideals but being Dem light.
Amen Brother. The Establishment GOP is every bit as corrupt and sleazy as their DNC "opposite numbers" who are part of the same Kabuki theater. Both parties are on the make and on the take. Remember that when the NRSC sends you those bogus "surveys" that are nothing but a lame fundraising pitch.
I would like to see some video from the supposed lefties doing the stuff listed above. Everyone has cell phone cameras nowadays. When would the vote be?
colorider
11-04-2013, 12:18
The "no recall" goons video taped and took pictures of my truck on Saturday after I yelled "whiners" out my window at a stop light. The recall Hudak people were laughing at waving their signs in support of my comment.
spqrzilla
11-04-2013, 13:42
Its a Lama
Its a llama.
(Dressed up as a donkey for Halloween)
Is that "RALPH" The Wonder Llama of Monty Python Holy Grail fame?
Guys, this is a thread about the Hudak recall.
So there are only donkeys in here.
avandelay
11-04-2013, 23:20
Heh. I just got a robo call about a Community Alert from the Democracy Defense Fund telling me that the paid signature gatherers for a recall petition 'could have a criminal record.' I guess they're getting concerned about having to actually face a recall vote. How they can call themselves the Democracy Defense Fund while trying to prevent democracy in action is beyond me. BTW, they wasted their call since I cannot sign the petition since I do not live in Hudak's district.
Yea, we just got a call too at the house.
My son lives in Arvada now but how the fuck they got our number is puzzling.
Firehaus
11-05-2013, 18:12
What's the stand with Evie rally's about? One at 64th & Wads right now.
There is a stand with Evie .com now but the registrant is private on WHOIS. they are accepting donation through a site called act blue. The sight was created on 10/15.
Firehaus
11-05-2013, 19:29
It looked like they were getting signatures.
JohnnyDrama
11-08-2013, 13:52
I just got a receipt from "Recall Hudak Too" for my donation. Any idea on how the petitions are coming?
They need many more...(frome Peter Boyles show) Its going good, about half, but they still need many many more.
Is this the right place to send money?
"Can I count on you to chip in $15 or $20 to help the Recall Hudak team beat back these orchestrated attacks?
Paid for by the committee to Recall Hudak Too
11651 W. 64th Ave. E1, Arvada, CO 80002?
mountainjenny
11-09-2013, 19:01
https://causes.anedot.com/recall-hudak-too?utm_source=Volunteer+List&utm_campaign=6bd0b2c970-Donation_Thank_You&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_72e973d5c9-6bd0b2c970-66815945
(https://causes.anedot.com/recall-hudak-too?utm_source=Volunteer+List&utm_campaign=6bd0b2c970-Donation_Thank_You&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_72e973d5c9-6bd0b2c970-66815945)
This is the link I received in an email.
I think what you have listed is the correct organization and the correct address for their office. Not sure if it is a good mailing address for regular mail.
That's it. I just looked it up for my son to get him and his housemates down there.
Wife and I signed the petition a few weeks ago. This weekend, my kid comes running in the front door telling me that the "Hudak Person is here for you". Well, it was not Evie, it was a person in the familiar green shirt collecting signatures. I told her that I had signed the petition "bunches of times already". The look on her face was priceless. Guess I should not jest strangers. Told her I was joking and wished her a good day.
Wife and I signed the petition a few weeks ago. This weekend, my kid comes running in the front door telling me that the "Hudak Person is here for you". Well, it was not Evie, it was a person in the familiar green shirt collecting signatures. I told her that I had signed the petition "bunches of times already". The look on her face was priceless. Guess I should not jest strangers. Told her I was joking and wished her a good day.
You're rotten :) :) :)
Need 18,900 by Dec. 3rd or 5th. 21 days from today. Gonna be close, because they will need 25,000+ sigs total.
They will come to you if you can't sign: 720-477-1669 is the office number.
kidicarus13
11-12-2013, 16:21
Need 18,900 by Dec. 3rd or 5th. 21 days from today. Gonna be close, because they will need 25,000+ sigs total.
They will come to you if you can't sign: 720-477-1669 is the office number.
Confused. Still need 18,900 signatures to make 25,000 signatures or want to get 25,000 signatures total to be safe?
Confused. Still need 18,900 signatures to make 25,000 signatures or want to get 25,000 signatures total to be safe?
Get 25,000 signatures to make up for any signatures that are disallowed.
anaphylaxis
11-12-2013, 23:28
Get 25,000 signatures to make up for any signatures that are disallowed.
This. They state on the FB page "We're on par with time spent collecting, but we need to push hard in the last 3 weeks to finish strong."
Sounds like it is going well, however better safe than sorry...
Checked with other family tonight and they have both signed. Suggested I'd like to get a read on rest of family, but don't know how to approach. Hoping they will take initiative since it is their immediate family.
My son still hasn't signed. I told him he would be written out of the will and not get any of my guns when I die if he didn't get his ass over there this week. He said his housemates have all already signed.
buffalobo
11-13-2013, 00:02
My son still hasn't signed. I told him he would be written out of the will and not get any of my guns when I die if he didn't get his ass over there this week. He said his housemates have all already signed.
Come on, dad, what the hell?
Wished I lived in that district, just to vote on this. My wife gave aunt and a neighbor a ride to local grocery to sign petition.
I told him to pull up his fukn pants too.
buffalobo
11-13-2013, 00:11
I told him to pull up his fukn pants too.
Wait til just the right humiliating moment and step on baggin/draggin pant cuff. Damn near walk right outta them pants.
Shit just pisses me off.
anaphylaxis
11-14-2013, 13:35
E-mail from the recall folks, death threat from Hudak supporter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2y_f8rRWRI
Must be fake. The anti's never use threats and violence, right?
Zundfolge
11-15-2013, 16:23
Here's the video anaphylaxis linked ... embedded for the lazy among us (like me :p )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2y_f8rRWRI
Great-Kazoo
11-15-2013, 19:18
Here's the video anaphylaxis linked ... embedded for the lazy among us (like me :p )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2y_f8rRWRI
No one called the local LE ? If someone said what he did in the mall, at work or near a school, SWAT, 4 surrounding county sheriff depts and sky9 would be on the scene.
No one called the local LE ? If someone said what he did in the mall, at work or near a school, SWAT, 4 surrounding county sheriff depts and sky9 would be on the scene.
LE, what a joke. Fuck the police and their controllers. Yes, this travesty of unequal protection under the law has made a direct and negative impact on my opinion of the police, the city council, the mayor, and liberals in general.
They put their job over the safety of a legal petitioner who is following the GODDAMN law.
Zundfolge
11-15-2013, 19:44
Based on the recall supporter's response I'll make a couple of assumptions about him. 1) He's got the patience of Job and 2) I bet he's packing and thus not worried about this douchwit actually filling his empty threat.
E-mail from the recall folks, death threat from Hudak supporter:
"I'm gonna go home and get a gun and kill you M***** F****ers"?
"Would ya like that?"
"Make my day, M***** F****er."
ZERO THEORY
11-15-2013, 22:24
Based on the recall supporter's response I'll make a couple of assumptions about him. 1) He's got the patience of Job and 2) I bet he's packing and thus not worried about this douchwit actually filling his empty threat.
Hell, even unarmed, why would you be? Idle threats offered as you flee the scene-the sign of a true hard man.
Walked down and thanked the petitioner team. Did a little sign holding this morning at 80th and Wadsworth. Petitioners on both sides, King Soopers and Safeway.
90% positive, thumbs up, horns and smiles. :) Every time I looked at the signature area someone was signing. They have a laptop out there so they can make sure the signee is legit. :)
Was down there again for a while. WAY more recall people than evie people.
Guess who showed up, the police were there the whole time I was there. There were at least 2 marked units parking and patrolling and I saw at least one unmarked (lightbar across the top of the windshield is a giveaway). Naturally the opposition (the few that were there) were on their best behavior. I'm hoping I'll see/hear something that will bring my opinion back to pro-police but we'll see, my outburst above was an emotional release after weeks of hearing of the abuses heaped on the petitioners and no action being taken against the abusers.
The opposition staged a flashmob at noon or so, it was pathetic, like 8 people out of an expected 150 people. They "danced" or something, when I think of dancing I think of Fred Astaire and Rita Hayworth.
The wind is chlly, getting my coat and going back.
HoneyBadger
11-16-2013, 16:44
Gun Rights Across America (GRAA) shared on Facebook earlier that Greg Brophy was at the recall headquarters for a bit this morning. Good for him.
Hell, even unarmed, why would you be? Idle threats offered as you flee the scene-the sign of a true hard man.
Yeah he spoke those words like a true tough guy.....as he pedaled away on his bike. [ROFL2]
Police were gone when I got back, they were watching for trouble during the flash mob.
If I can judge by the number of "thumbs up", waves, horn honking, etc. versus "the finger" and "thumbs down" evie is out of there, compiled from southbound and northbound traffic.
The leftists stayed out of our way and didn't harass anyone, nor where there any shenanigans in the parking lots as far as I know.
Tom Tancredo came by and said hello to everyone who was there, stopped and chatted for a bit too.
HoneyBadger
11-16-2013, 19:30
Tom Tancredo came by and said hello to everyone who was there, stopped and chatted for a bit too.
Good for him! It's reassuring to see positive support from some politicians. It gives me a teensy bit of faith that not ALL politicians are full up to their ears of bullsh*t.
When I turned in my petition sheet to the notary today she didn't give me any numbers, but she did say it's looking fine and made a comment about extra nails in the coffin. I was in a team of 4 doing door to door and we split into 2 groups. We were all followed from the office and had lots of pictures taken of us. They didn't give us a ticket so I'm not sure how to order prints. The other 2 in our team said the police showed up and asked them if the antis were keeping their distance and if all was ok.
kidicarus13
11-16-2013, 21:03
When I turned in my petition sheet to the notary today she didn't give me any numbers, but she did say it's looking fine and made a comment about extra nails in the coffin. I was in a team of 4 doing door to door and we split into 2 groups. We were all followed from the office and had lots of pictures taken of us. They didn't give us a ticket so I'm not sure how to order prints. The other 2 in our team said the police showed up and asked them if the antis were keeping their distance and if all was ok.
Glad to hear the police were doing their job. As far as photos go... I hope they get published somewhere. I'd like to see the faces of the people in the trenches, standing up for the 2nd Amendment, getting the job done. Nice work!
Pundits don’t understand Colorado, can’t explain its drift to the right By Rick Wagner (http://www.gjsentinel.com/S=dc5c2be05895bea30778aa4b362d821aac7a800f/staff/detail/58/)
Wednesday, November 13, 2013
There’s much consternation among the national keyboard-tapping class who stare moodily westward through their smog-filled skies and wonder what happened to Colorado’s leftward drift.
Some confusion comes from an essential misunderstanding of Coloradans. Many of the people who write about us think spending a ski holiday in Vail for their daughter’s winter break from Brown University qualifies them as sages on Colorado values. Like a romance-novel character, we’re complicated and misunderstood.
Alarms have sounded since the recalls of two state senators over their gun-control votes and the crushing defeat of Amendment 66. That is the rejected tax measure, with its liberal valentine of higher and progressive tax rates, unaccountable spending and centralization of education responsibilities in Denver.
Democrats, who hold the state Senate by only one vote, now have to contend with a recall effort to remove Westminster Sen. Evie Hudak for the same reasons the first two senators were recalled. The difference is, Denver-area Democrats are trying to disrupt the signature-gathering portion of the effort rather than just wait for a recall and then outspend everyone.
In Hudak’s district, the signature gathering is made difficult by the high number of signatures required, since her re-election took place during a presidential year when more votes are typically cast than in off-year elections. That vote determines the number of signatures necessary for a recall petition.
Also, Democrats are much less confident in defeating the effort at the ballot box after two successful recalls.
Furthermore, the outspending piece in recent elections was not as productive for Democrats as in the past. Supporters of Amendment 66 outspent opponents 500 to 1, with a $10 million campaign financed largely by out-of-state oligarchs. But the supporters were never really in the fight. Bell rang — instant knockout.
In other troubling news, school board races in Denver, Jefferson and Douglas counties, which were closely watched and heavily funded by unions and other progressive organizations, were swept by conservative reform slates.
Don’t let all of this make you believe money doesn’t matter a lot in elections. With so many voters already in hardened positions on issues and candidates, the slippery 15 percent to 20 percent who haven’t made up their minds or paid the slightest bit of attention to anything but still may vote, are the group everyone’s looking for at the polls.
Money, enthusiasm and ignorance are the real operational watchwords of political campaigns.
One locates voters apathetic or uninformed on issues and then uses money to lobby them — usually by advertising frightening non-realities or convincing class-warfare messages.
The reason big money didn’t work in some of Colorado’s latest races was because voters were already well educated on the issues and enthusiastic to make a difference on a topic they understood and wanted changed.
Nervous Nellies for the 2014 election are Gov. John Hickenlooper and U.S. Sen. Mark Udall.
Hickenlooper is the most vulnerable, despite what Front Range newspapers would have you believe. His support is seldom above 51 percent in polls, and now, thanks to his missteps on guns, the death penalty and Amendment 66, he is in some trouble. According to a Quinnipiac University poll published by the National Journal, his approval rating is an anemic 48 percent, with a plurality of voters thinking he does not deserve re-election.
This has forced him into the dangerous area of supporting fracking to try and win back some centrist support, but this makes it tough with environmental-group members, who spend a lot of time making sure their electric cars don’t catch fire.
Udall, also up for re-election, should be concerned about being among senators referred to by The Wall Street Journal as the “Obamacare Dozen,” who helped drag the legislation across the finish line on Christmas Eve four years ago.
He has $4 million already in his war chest and, like Hickenlooper, hasn’t been presented with a strong contender from Republicans yet. Both men are likely nervous but not yet threatened.
That could still change. So, I predict in the next few months we’ll see our governor guzzling more fracking fluid and thoughtfully visiting drilling rigs. He’ll probably be accompanied by Udall in bib overalls and a Stetson. They don’t get us either.
Rick Wagner writes more on politics at his blog, The War on Wrong.
A huge Thank You to all those involved in the recall and to the petitioners. I truly do pray you get the numbers needed.
The 2014 elections will be telling. We should all be going to our representatives meetings and letting them know how much they messed up or supported us. It is only through the people consistently talking that they will here us.
Hell, even unarmed, why would you be? Idle threats offered as you flee the scene-the sign of a true hard man.
Seriously? He peddled away like a BOSS.
To complete the statement he should have hit that bell on the handlebars. <BRING!! BRING!!> M***** F******s.
Good job collecting signatures, folks!
BPTactical
11-18-2013, 22:00
Seriously? He peddled away like a BOSS.
To complete the statement he should have hit that bell on the handlebars. <BRING!! BRING!!> M***** F******s.
Good job collecting signatures, folks!
His Mommy let him go play on his bike outside of the driveway.
Hope he had a juicebox when he got home.
Great-Kazoo
11-18-2013, 23:32
His Mommy let him go play on his bike outside of the driveway.
Hope he had a juicebox when he got home.
CapriSun, more environ Mentally friendly.
CapriSun, more environ Mentally friendly.
Those plastic packets will be around floating in the ocean in like a million years. :)
Great-Kazoo
11-19-2013, 08:52
Those plastic packets will be around floating in the ocean in like a million years. :)
I will not worry until i'm closer to 50,000 yrs old. By then doubt i will reme............
Lex_Luthor
11-21-2013, 23:07
HA! Got a call from Evie Hudak's support office. "Stand with Evie" or whatever it's called. Apparently she wants input from her constituents... I told the woman, "She could start with accurately representing her community instead of pushing her own agenda across. Actually I signed the petition to kick her out of office."
To which the lady replied something along the lines of, "well, I'm sorry to hear that."
I told her to have a great day.
HA! Got a call from Evie Hudak's support office. "Stand with Evie" or whatever it's called. Apparently she wants input from her constituents... I told the woman, "She could start with accurately representing her community instead of pushing her own agenda across. Actually I signed the petition to kick her out of office."
To which the lady replied something along the lines of, "well, I'm sorry to hear that."
I told her to have a great day.
Shoulda recorded that one to share w/all of us. lol
So the deadline is coming right up, do we know how the numbers are looking?
according to RMGO emails, they are saying they are almost right at the required number. but I am guessing they will want to get a good bit more for any potential doubles, fakes, etc.
I was told they had 90% last night. Not sure if that's 90% of the required or the 25, 000 to be safe.
I would not be surprised at all if this rumor proves to be true. The dims don't want to risk losing the majority.
http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2013/11/22/civil-war-hudak-agrees-to-resign-if-recall-goes-forward-allegedly-demands-johnston-get-blacklisted-in-return/
I find it bullshit that they can resign at that point. Once the signatures get verified that should be the end of it, no chance to resign.
Zundfolge
11-22-2013, 16:20
I find it bullshit that they can resign at that point. Once the signatures get verified that should be the end of it, no chance to resign.
Actually I don't have a problem with them resigning, however if they do resign there should still be an election ... they shouldn't be able to resign just so their party can put an unelected crony in their seat and avoid the voice of the people.
Voice of the people is heard if the recalled official is gone. I don't want recalls happening just to swap the majority party but for real reasons.
spqrzilla
11-22-2013, 18:46
If Hudak resigns, you will have a great victory. At that point, with no election, there is zero risk of balloting to go against us and the message of consequences for following Bloomberg's dictat is sent.
just donated at http://www.recallhudaktoo.org
Singlestack
11-23-2013, 08:26
Just getting the recall petition validated is a victory unto itself, and sends a loud message to the antis. I do expect Hudak will resign if enough signatures are validated, as the dems will do anything to avoid losing the senate majority. She doesn't enjoy the massive financial backing that Morse got, and is more on her own.
BPTactical
11-23-2013, 08:51
A comment to that article by Chris Rawlings is spot on and very well thought out.
If the D's just shove their lacky in Hudak's place that is further proof the D's are ignoring the will of the people and another finger is given to Colorado voters.
Agreed, she should not be allowed to resign and be forced to face her constituents.
Oh, and the author of that article is Eli Stokols who is as far left and in the D pocket deep
We're collecting signatures at 100th and Wadsworth and at 80th and Wadsworth.
electronman1729
11-23-2013, 16:37
Just got back from KS on Wads and 80th. Pretty neat with everyone out there.
Donated some money and dropped off some donuts.
Lex_Luthor
11-23-2013, 17:09
I drove by headed south on Wads to Sams and honked for both groups.
I held a sign for a couple of hours, we had some fun. Way more positive feedback than negative.
ChunkyMonkey
11-25-2013, 17:26
Bump!!!!
http://completecolorado.com/pagetwo/2013/11/25/recall-hudak-too-campaign-says-theyre-at-92-of-goal/
“Recall Hudak Too” campaign says they’re at 92% of goal
Bump!!!!
http://completecolorado.com/pagetwo/2013/11/25/recall-hudak-too-campaign-says-theyre-at-92-of-goal/
“Recall Hudak Too” campaign says they’re at 92% of goal
Hopefully that's based on the number they were shooting for and not the minimum they needed
Recall Hudak organizers are trying to gather at least 25,000 signatures by early December.
92% of 25K is 23K.
ChunkyMonkey
11-26-2013, 15:28
Hopefully that's based on the number they were shooting for and not the minimum they needed
92% of 25K is 23K.
Yeah they are at few thousands above the minimum ATM.
I volunteered to go door-to-door for signatures today and had a great time! Amazing amount of positive feedback from the residents of The Hudak's district. The recall campaign can really use more help tomorrow through Sunday - even on Thanksgiving day. Door to door, as well as in busy parking lots and places like that. Please come and volunteer for a few hours.
StagLefty
11-27-2013, 09:29
I just heard that she's resigning on the radio
I just heard that she's resigning on the radio
Came in here to post the same.
lowbeyond
11-27-2013, 09:32
Hey looks like all the unions are dumping $ to prevent this
http://thecoloradoobserver.com/2013/11/labor-unions-pony-up-big-bucks-to-save-hudak-from-recall/
Contributions include $25,000 from the National Education Association Fund for Children and Public Education in Washington, D.C.; $10,000 from the International Association of Firefighters in Washington, D.C., and $20,000 from the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees in Washington, D.C.
Meanwhile, the Colorado AFL-CIO Labor 2K donated $25,000, and the SEIU Local 105 in Denver gave $10,000, according to reports on the Colorado Secretary of State’s TRACER website.
You can always count on unions!
yankeefan98121
11-27-2013, 09:34
Even though the article is by Stokols it's the only one up
http://kdvr.com/2013/11/27/hudak-will-resign-seat-to-end-recall-threat-hold-democrats-senate-majority/
two shoes
11-27-2013, 09:55
http://www.9news.com/news/article/366456/339/Sen-Hudak-resigns-ahead-of-recall-threat
SamuraiCO
11-27-2013, 10:15
Telling her conviction and belief in her constituents.
lowbeyond
11-27-2013, 10:25
https://tracer.sos.colorado.gov/CampaignFinance/Filings/Schedules/ViewContributionSchedule.aspx?FilingID=160560
Colorado Firefighters: 10k
Colorado AFL-CIO: 25k
SEIU LOCAL 105: 10k
Good Job ! You fought the good fight by trying to help Hudak
Such a shame.
http://www.9news.com/news/article/366456/339/Sen-Hudak-resigns-ahead-of-recall-threat
Hip Hip Hooray!!! What a great day it is today!
ChunkyMonkey
11-27-2013, 10:38
Super job by the people of SD11.. The volunteers and contributors!!! Good day
Still reporting that it was gun groups chasing her out.
Still reporting that it was gun groups chasing her out.
Of course. It had nothing to do with her arrogance and willful disregard of her constituency.
If interested, her resignation letter:
http://localtvkdvr.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/hudak-resignation-letter.pdf
Glad to hear this but I was hoping the people could fire her. C U Next Time evil Hudak.
Mark my words, if they get enogh signatures in this one to require a recall election, she will step down. No way they risk losing the majority. I know it was said about the other two but this is for the majority and that was back when they thought they were untouchable. Know they know the will of the people can put them out on the street. We may hate them, but they are not stupid when it comes to playing the politics game.
Great job by everyone involved and congratulations!
Now we get to watch Hick install Bloomberg's little brother into her seat. Folks, this battle was won today but the War is just beginning and the next battleground is the election in 14. We must take back the majority or there will be lots of other laws passed. The big thing though, is when we do get the majority to make sure these laws are repealed and go on the offensive.
I would like to see a law that does away with the Colorado background check all together. Waste of money for a redundant system when there is a federal system already in place.
bellavite1
11-27-2013, 12:09
NEXT...
Great job by everyone involved and congratulations!
Now we get to watch Hick install Bloomberg's little brother into her seat. Folks, this battle was won today but the War is just beginning and the next battleground is the election in 14. We must take back the majority or there will be lots of other laws passed. The big thing though, is when we do get the majority to make sure these laws are repealed and go on the offensive.
I would like to see a law that does away with the Colorado background check all together. Waste of money for a redundant system when there is a federal system already in place.
We tried that a few years ago (2012 IIRC) and they killed it in committee so hopefully next time it will get through. Fukn bunch of traitors on the Senate Veterans and Military Affairs committee.
Nicely done recall folks, now we need to press the next one...
Nicely done recall folks, now we need to press the next one...
Not over till Wednesday
osok-308
11-27-2013, 18:41
This is a victory for sure. Hopefully this sends a message to other possible gun grabbers that this is what happens when you vote against the second amendment.
The Democratic vacancy committee is meeting tonight to decide who is going to replace her. It looks like it will be the Arvada city council member Zenzinger or former Senator Gagliardi
buckshotbarlow
12-10-2013, 22:12
Looks like Rachel Zenzinger is her replacement...Evie's campaign manager...
Here she is protesting at Walmart with the union on blackfriday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IRnxKvRL10
She is at the 0:15 with her 2 daughters. She voted against a new Walmart in Arvada while she was on the city council. She also said she supports all of the new gunlaws. Also she was one of Evie's campaign managers in 2012.
So we basically got nowhere. Wonderful.
.455_Hunter
12-10-2013, 22:59
Did we really think that they would appoint anybody except a clone?
The main message is that Hudak is gone, and the progressives are still not happy about it.
Prepare for campaign 2014!
BPTactical
12-10-2013, 23:14
Don't despair Jer, actually quite a bit was accomplished. Woke a lot of people up and it proved to some degree we the people still have a say.
The "D" flipped the finger to the people again, by not allowing the recall to happen and yet again, ignoring their constituents.
They knew if it went to a vote they were screwed so they leveraged Hudak to resign.
They ate their own.
This is all the more reason to keep people paying attention to politics and awake this upcoming year.
Don't despair Jer, actually quite a bit was accomplished. Woke a lot of people up and it proved to some degree we the people still have a say.
The "D" flipped the finger to the people again, by not allowing the recall to happen and yet again, ignoring their constituents.
They knew if it went to a vote they were screwed so they leveraged Hudak to resign.
They ate their own.
This is all the more reason to keep people paying attention to politics and awake this upcoming year.
I know what you're saying but you know what I meant by that too, right?
No votes will be changed. Just a lot less ugly woman saying yes or no.
Zundfolge
12-11-2013, 09:47
No votes will be changed.
I guarantee you no new gun control laws will be drafted or voted on any time soon, so yes some votes WILL be changed.
I guarantee you no new gun control laws will be drafted or voted on any time soon, so yes some votes WILL be changed.
But when a vote comes up for bills to reverse this bullshit she sure as shit won't be voting for. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about.
Zundfolge
12-11-2013, 10:36
But when a vote comes up for bills to reverse this bullshit she sure as shit won't be voting for. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about.
Those bills won't come up until after the house, senate and Governor's mansion are under (R) control. The recalls are only part of the political backlash coming against the Democrats (knock wood).
I guarantee you no new gun control laws will be drafted or voted on any time soon, so yes some votes WILL be changed.
You never know.
brianakell
12-11-2013, 11:29
Those bills won't come up until after the house, senate and Governor's mansion are under (R) control. The recalls are only part of the political backlash coming against the Democrats (knock wood).
No politician is going to attempt to reverse mandatory background checks, and unlimited mag capacity. BGC is $ coming in, and both would be political suicide.
I hope youre right FWIW
UrbanWolf
12-11-2013, 12:58
Don't despair Jer, actually quite a bit was accomplished. Woke a lot of people up and it proved to some degree we the people still have a say.
The "D" flipped the finger to the people again, by not allowing the recall to happen and yet again, ignoring their constituents.
They knew if it went to a vote they were screwed so they leveraged Hudak to resign.
They ate their own.
This is all the more reason to keep people paying attention to politics and awake this upcoming year.
"TWhen the chips are down, these uh, these "civilized people," they'll eat each other." -- Joker
Zundfolge
12-11-2013, 12:58
No politician is going to attempt to reverse mandatory background checks, and unlimited mag capacity. BGC is $ coming in, and both would be political suicide.
I hope youre right FWIW
The toughest one to repeal will be the UBGC law ... but even that isn't immune, lots of people hate it and its possible that the repeal of all the new gun laws will come down to a single bill.
The mag ban will very likely be repealed as its stupid and people hate it (and it may be overturned by a constitutional amendment voted on by the people).
We're going to be stuck with the $10 fee tacked on to BGCs forever though ... but if it just applies to FFL transfers it'll suck but we can probably live with it.
UrbanWolf
12-11-2013, 13:04
Those bills won't come up until after the house, senate and Governor's mansion are under (R) control. The recalls are only part of the political backlash coming against the Democrats (knock wood).
How likely is that to happen to Colorado in the next 20 years? Liberal Cali refugee population is just too large for that.
mtnrider
12-11-2013, 14:20
The toughest one to repeal will be the UBGC law ... but even that isn't immune, lots of people hate it and its possible that the repeal of all the new gun laws will come down to a single bill.
The mag ban will very likely be repealed as its stupid and people hate it (and it may be overturned by a constitutional amendment voted on by the people).
We're going to be stuck with the $10 fee tacked on to BGCs forever though ... but if it just applies to FFL transfers it'll suck but we can probably live with it.
Obviously I hope they both get repealed but I sure hope they separate the bills if they do try. I don't have high hopes that the UBGC will ever get repealed and I would hate to have repealing the mag ban shot down because it was tied to the UBGC bill.
UrbanWolf
12-11-2013, 19:43
Obviously I hope they both get repealed but I sure hope they separate the bills if they do try. I don't have high hopes that the UBGC will ever get repealed and I would hate to have repealing the mag ban shot down because it was tied to the UBGC bill.
Maybe our governor or future governor can learn from Dear Leader and repeal them with a state EO?
mtnrider
12-11-2013, 19:59
Maybe our governor or future governor can learn from Dear Leader and repeal them with a state EO?
I hope so but I don't see the BGC ever going away. There are many gun owners/supporters that even approve of it. It would be political suicide for anyone to try and appeal it.
Zundfolge
12-11-2013, 20:11
I hope so but I don't see the BGC ever going away. There are many gun owners/supporters that even approve of it. It would be political suicide for anyone to try and appeal it.
You say this in a thread about the third legislator in Colorado history to face recall PRECIOUSLY because of the BGC law (along with the others). No, it would not be political suicide for anyone to try to repeal the BGC law ... it may be difficult, but frankly any politician that tries will be a flippin' hero to a large chunk of Coloradoans.
I also don't buy the "many gun owners/supporters approve of it" bit either ... most of the "even most gun owners support BGCs" nonsense is about supporting Brady checks at gun shops, not UNIVERSAL BGCs. And even then I think its more about them being asked in polls if they approve of "laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals" in the generic sense.
mtnrider
12-11-2013, 20:24
I also don't buy the "many gun owners/supporters approve of it" bit either ... most of the "even most gun owners support BGCs" nonsense is about supporting Brady checks at gun shops, not UNIVERSAL BGCs. And even then I think its more about them being asked in polls if they approve of "laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals" in the generic sense.
I personally know many gun owners who support the BGC. I don't agree with them but they have the right to there opinion.
UrbanWolf
12-11-2013, 20:53
I hope so but I don't see the BGC ever going away. There are many gun owners/supporters that even approve of it. It would be political suicide for anyone to try and appeal it.
If that's the case then national level it will go. Fuck it.
I personally know many gun owners who support the BGC. I don't agree with them but they have the right to there opinion.
Remind them that everyone who left their guns at a friends house for safe keeping because of the fire or flooding is a criminal now under the BGC law.
mtnrider
12-11-2013, 21:16
Remind them that everyone who left their guns at a friends house for safe keeping because of the fire or flooding is a criminal now under the BGC law.
Don't know anyone who has done that. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just stating the facts. Your naive if you think every gun owner has a "no compromise" view like we do.
UrbanWolf
12-11-2013, 21:21
Don't know anyone who has done that. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just stating the facts. Your naive if you think every gun owner has a "no compromise" view like we do.
Mark Kelly come to mind...
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