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WETWRKS
05-09-2014, 15:19
I called a plumbing and heating company out to get a bid for work. Leaky kitchen faucet, replacement of the disposal, rotoruter of the toilet. I also wanted bids on a hot water on demend system and an ac.

So we started with the kitchen sink...it leaks around the faucet and needs new o rings. He barely looked at it and declaired it cannot be fixed...needs replaced. The disposal was junk to begin with. Glanced at the toilet and declaired it is a design flaw and needs to be replaced. Total bid on that work...$2692.00

Hot water on demand...he says has to be repiped for the vent. Replace the system will run $6050.00. Vent will up it to $8825.00. Will have to cut holes in the drywall which will require someone else to come patch. With 1 year service and warrenty it will be $8825 and up to $11525.00 for 10 years warrenty and service.

They won't install the ac at all.

Do these numbers seem out of line?

XC700116
05-09-2014, 15:24
Yes, you could do the sink, disposal, and toilet for a lot less than that, the other stuff sounds rediculous as well. I'd get some other bids.

Hound
05-09-2014, 15:25
[hahhah-no]

Get another bid!

Graves
05-09-2014, 15:27
I can understand not having a ton of spare time, but all of these jobs aren't bad at all for a DIY'er. Especially the sink and toilet.

BushMasterBoy
05-09-2014, 15:31
I replaced a toilet last week including shutoff valve and new wax ring. Took me an hour to do it. I think she paid $100 for the toilet. Price he quoted are way out of line.

WETWRKS
05-09-2014, 15:32
Thanks...didn't know if my expectations were just out of line or if things were really that expensive. I know that a tankless water system is only 1000 at lowes for the top model they carry. I have a little 1 bedroom condo that doesn't need anywhere that level of output even.

baglock1
05-09-2014, 15:32
Yeah, sink, disposal, and toilet are no brainers. Honestly, it's entirely possible that they're fixable but he doesn't want to deal with it due to the minimal profit on repairs vs upgrades.

New hot water heaters require an efficiency rating that requires the vent. Even with that however, it's not that big of a deal.

If you were closer, I'd do the labor for a few hundred bucks and call it good but I don't have the overhead he does. I'd suggest asking around among buddies/work and organizing a work party. The skills to do this work aren't rare.

SideShow Bob
05-09-2014, 15:51
Yeah, sink, disposal, and toilet are no brainers. Honestly, it's entirely possible that they're fixable but he doesn't want to deal with it due to the minimal profit on repairs vs upgrades.

New hot water heaters require an efficiency rating that requires the vent. Even with that however, it's not that big of a deal.

If you were closer, I'd do the labor for a few hundred bucks and call it good but I don't have the overhead he does. I'd suggest asking around among buddies/work and organizing a work party. The skills to do this work aren't rare.

Don't forget the time and fees for homeowner replacement of water heater and vent work. And also scheduling the inspection.......

jerrymrc
05-09-2014, 15:52
I do not have a large or expensive house but I redid the cabinets, counter tops, sink, disposal and fixtures for less than your sink repair. It was a few years ago but geez.

Ah Pook
05-09-2014, 15:53
About the only time I would call a plumber is if the toilet was doing a 3' brown fountain. Not likely on a septic system but ya never know.

Some on here have done the HWoD. Wonder what the final bill was.

Colorado_Outback
05-09-2014, 17:10
Holy balls.. With 11K I could rebuild a good portion of my house. Those sound like the I dont wanna do it prices to me.

StagLefty
05-09-2014, 17:36
I'm curious what company you called ?

beast556
05-09-2014, 18:17
Like everyone else has said thoese prices are way over the top.

JohnnyEgo
05-09-2014, 18:39
That is the contractor's polite(ish) way of declining the job.
They either don't have the time or don't have the desire to do it at market rate, but would be willing to do it if you paid their as(s)tronomical premium.

sandman76
05-09-2014, 19:12
The big service companies would be kind of in line with those prices. Probably could do better. Another bid or two would be good.

us1911
05-09-2014, 20:13
Next time close the garage door so he doesn't see the Porsche and Mercedes when he drives up.

Wulf202
05-09-2014, 21:16
Holy hell I don't charge enough.

As far as tankless, it actually could be that much. Some require all new gas pipe from the meter, and new vent pipe all the way up which depending on construction is really expensive.

flogger
05-09-2014, 21:17
Shop around but don't cut corners. DIY projects can end up SOS!

newracer
05-09-2014, 21:18
Demand water heaters used to require stainless steel venting that was very expensive. Now most can be installed with PVC. I don't think he wanted to do the job.

Bailey Guns
05-09-2014, 21:45
I'll come to your house, buy the supplies and do the job for $5k. I'll probably have to do it two or three times to get it right and I'll still make money. Let me know when you wanna schedule the work.

[Beer]

rockhound
05-10-2014, 07:47
The tankless water heater will wear out before it ever pays for itself

Buy some tools and do it yourself

hatidua
05-10-2014, 09:35
Based on what the various contractors charged after the flooding in Boulder last September, there's not an estimate out there that will surprise me anymore, no matter how high. I don't know if it was simply a case of opportunism after a storm or if plumbers/carpenters/drywall/roofing people always charge as much as they were at that time but it was staggering what relatively simple jobs were costing (DIY was no-go as the insurance companies required estimates from licensed contractors before paying for the work).

Stone83
08-17-2014, 18:00
Lemme guess... Plumbline Services???
They tried to jack me for a $15,600 FURNACE!!!!

[sheepshagger]

sportbikeco
08-17-2014, 18:12
Go to home depot and buy a new kitchen faucet and disposal. While you install those wait for the $99 rooter guy to show up and fix the crapper. If you can't figure it out see if he will do it for $100 bill since you already removed the old stuff lol.

Duman
08-17-2014, 19:24
Wow....if that guy gets that kind of $$, I sure as hell picked the wrong occupation.

bryjcom
08-17-2014, 20:26
On demand heaters rarely pay for themselves.
Stick with the 50 gallon and if you really need more hot water get a high recovery 50 gallon