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"Then my plans were to enter and throw Molotov cocktails and pipe bombs and destroy everyone, and then when SWAT comes I would destroy myself," he said.
After his arrest, police say, LaDue told them the plot was written down in a notebook and kept in a locked guitar case in his room. LaDue also said he had an assault rifle, a number of handguns and 400 rounds of ammunition in a gun safe that was also in his room. Search warrants were issued, and police recovered seven firearms, ammunition and three functional bombs from LaDue's home, along with black clothing and a ski mask.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/25/teen-plot-bomb/11349075/
Sounds like he wouldn't even attempt to go up against SWAT. I wonder why not. Perhaps if he was used to challenging himself, he wouldn't be in the mindset he is today.
Damn good thing he kept that rifle from getting out and assaulting everybody.
On a serious note: I am overjoyed this maniac's plans were foiled.
Sounds like he wouldn't even attempt to go up against SWAT. I wonder why not. Perhaps if he was used to challenging himself, he wouldn't be in the mindset he is today.
Probably because his "free for all" would come to an abrupt stop when an armed force showed up.
I really think this whole mental illness thing is being blown way out of proportion. Is violent mental illness suddenly a more common thing? We've had mental illness for ages, but only now is it really spilling out into society and killing people. I think that's just becoming another scapegoat for this behavior and attitude. I think it's less people are mentally ill and more people are just screwed up and want attention so bad that they go to the most extreme measures to gain notoriety.
I do not know it is blown out of proportion or not. But times have changed and "everyone" is okay and no one will take "responsibility." The turning out of those who used to be institutionalized has put more out into the general population. Some will argue chemicals are also creating disorders that are new. The amount of metabolized and non-metabolized pharmaceuticals in the water had increased significantly in the past 20 years. There are a few cases where MDs have opined that drug interactions due to a prescribed medicine and one introduced through food and water had cumulative and severe effects. Also, 20 to 30 years ago, the kid who was a bit "off" got dealt with old school and modified his behavior or ended up in jail. The social climate as well as chemical influence are both factors.
Whistler
06-25-2014, 18:29
I think it's a general lack of accountability from the top down. No one is responsible for their actions; it was someone else's fault, my daddy didn't hug me enough, somebody told me no in this everyone's-special-get-a-trophy-for-showing-up-write-a-blog-call-myself-a-journalist-there-is-no-right-and-wrong-roller-coaster-to-hell-Liberal-mess that passes for society these days.
colorider
06-25-2014, 18:55
17 yrs old. Has guns and ammo in a safe in his room. He had a storage unit where he was making explosives.
Just how did the parents have no clue? Wake the fuck up and start being parents. That's the damn problem. Keep your eyes and ears on your kids. Pay attention to what they are doing. Have an interest in your kids activities and what they are doing and how they are acting. So many douche bag parents just pass the buck saying the had no idea bla bla bla. Fact is they have no idea who their kids are or what they are doing. Too damn busy with their jobs or social scedual to have time for the kids. This is the result.
StagLefty
06-25-2014, 19:23
Could be fast food.
Just the fries,it's always just the fries ! [Sarcasm2]
Psychotropic drugs are a lot of "what's changed".
We also don't keep the seriously mentally ill off the streets these days.
I think it's a general lack of accountability from the top down.
That. It's always someone else's fault.
My wife is a university professor and fails a handful of students every single semester. An F on the transcript likely doesn't please their tuition-paying parents. Nearly every one of those students balks, after the grade, claiming their reasons for not measuring up are special, unlike the others that failed the class - they came up short but there's a good reason, unlike the others. They generally don't take kindly to being told that their excuse isn't any more valid than the next persons. They failed, they aren't special.
The 'everyone gets a trophy' society we have coddled is going to prove rather interesting as time goes on, I almost wish I still watched TV news. Almost.
buffalobo
06-25-2014, 19:48
Could be fast food.
[ROFL2] For the win.
osok-308
06-25-2014, 20:27
I think it's a general lack of accountability from the top down. No one is responsible for their actions; it was someone else's fault, my daddy didn't hug me enough, somebody told me no in this everyone's-special-get-a-trophy-for-showing-up-write-a-blog-call-myself-a-journalist-there-is-no-right-and-wrong-roller-coaster-to-hell-Liberal-mess that passes for society these days.
This is my exact thought. I'm glad that we got this guy off the streets but we need to actually look at the source of this and prevent people from even thinking it.
That. It's always someone else's fault.
My wife is a university professor and fails a handful of students every single semester. An F on the transcript likely doesn't please their tuition-paying parents. Nearly every one of those students balks, after the grade, claiming their reasons for not measuring up are special, unlike the others that failed the class - they came up short but there's a good reason, unlike the others. They generally don't take kindly to being told that their excuse isn't any more valid than the next persons. They failed, they aren't special.
The 'everyone gets a trophy' society we have coddled is going to prove rather interesting as time goes on, I almost wish I still watched TV news. Almost.
Pretty much, just got out of college myself. I saw a lot of this from kids there. Yeah I failed a class before, but it's because I didn't put forth the effort to succeed. People need to take responsibility for their actions.
Also, 400 rounds? I easily shoot half that every time I go to the range.
I do not know it is blown out of proportion or not. But times have changed and "everyone" is okay and no one will take "responsibility." The turning out of those who used to be institutionalized has put more out into the general population. Some will argue chemicals are also creating disorders that are new. The amount of metabolized and non-metabolized pharmaceuticals in the water had increased significantly in the past 20 years. There are a few cases where MDs have opined that drug interactions due to a prescribed medicine and one introduced through food and water had cumulative and severe effects. Also, 20 to 30 years ago, the kid who was a bit "off" got dealt with old school and modified his behavior or ended up in jail. The social climate as well as chemical influence are both factors.
THIS! If there is someone so off you can't trust them with a letter opener, then why on earth is that person allowed to roam free willy nilly to do what they please if they're that unsafe? I blame the ACLU partially for that one.
I think it's a general lack of accountability from the top down. No one is responsible for their actions; it was someone else's fault, my daddy didn't hug me enough, somebody told me no in this everyone's-special-get-a-trophy-for-showing-up-write-a-blog-call-myself-a-journalist-there-is-no-right-and-wrong-roller-coaster-to-hell-Liberal-mess that passes for society these days.
Unfortunately this is so true!
17 yrs old. Has guns and ammo in a safe in his room. He had a storage unit where he was making explosives.
Just how did the parents have no clue? Wake the fuck up and start being parents. That's the damn problem. Keep your eyes and ears on your kids. Pay attention to what they are doing. Have an interest in your kids activities and what they are doing and how they are acting. So many douche bag parents just pass the buck saying the had no idea bla bla bla. Fact is they have no idea who their kids are or what they are doing. Too damn busy with their jobs or social scedual to have time for the kids. This is the result.
I've been saying this for years... Hey kid, where are your parents? When I was growing up, despite my parents being divorced, they both played an active role in my life and were constantly interested in what I was into, what I was doing, and who I was hanging out with. Some parents I've seen these days have kids that play sports, and some of these parents can say what sport they play, but damned if they know what position or if they're any good. [facepalm]
newracer
06-25-2014, 21:29
Its is a combination of a lack of parenting, lack of responsibility, and a lack of mental health care. I am not saying it was right but years ago when someone was not "right" they were either institutionalized or kept at home under the close watch of family. Pretty much all the institutions have closed and no one want to be responsible and take care of their own.
BREATHER
06-26-2014, 12:19
I have had a .16 ga and a .22 hanging on my wall at 12 years old. Between twelve and now, 50 years later I have NEVER had the complulsion to go out and do retarted shit with them.... The jails and the prisons are the new mental hospitals, ask any sheriff or warden. Emperically, all these shrinks spew out all these psych meds because it pays for their "free" trips to Vegas and points beyond.....You lnow, for conferences and stuff.....
17 yrs old. Has guns and ammo in a safe in his room. He had a storage unit where he was making explosives.
Just how did the parents have no clue? Wake the fuck up and start being parents. That's the damn problem. Keep your eyes and ears on your kids. Pay attention to what they are doing. Have an interest in your kids activities and what they are doing and how they are acting. So many douche bag parents just pass the buck saying the had no idea bla bla bla. Fact is they have no idea who their kids are or what they are doing. Too damn busy with their jobs or social scedual to have time for the kids. This is the result.
The mom even said that she would be going to bed and see him sitting up at his computer, and she didn't know what he was doing.
Sorry, I am more involved in my children's online life. You need to be because they have access to so much more information that they are not neccesarily ready for mentally.
Psychotropic drugs are a lot of "what's changed".
We also don't keep the seriously mentally ill off the streets these days.
This is pretty much how I feel about it.
Psychotropic drugs are a lot of "what's changed".
We also don't keep the seriously mentally ill off the streets these days.
Nowadays we give the seriously mentally ill a bunch of pills, and leave it up to the seriously ill person to make sure he/she takes them.
SamuraiCO
06-26-2014, 12:43
Nowadays we give the seriously mentally ill a bunch of pills, and leave it up to the seriously ill person to make sure he/she takes them.
As a pharmacist I can not argue. The SSRI's (Zoloft, Paxil, etc) were touted early on so effective that general MD's could prescribe. There was a lot of education put out for providers to help them identify their patients who might need an SSRI. What was seriously missing was pallative care that is provided by mental health professionals.
I also find it amazing whole generations of children were raised w/o ADD/ADHD meds.
But we all really know it was the evil black rifle wispering into his ear.
Nowadays we give the seriously mentally ill a bunch of pills, and leave it up to the seriously ill person to make sure he/she takes them.
I feel as though a lot of the shit given to kids is poison and completely fucks with their head. It's insane that these drugs like Ritalin are used to control unwanted behavior; God forbid that we work with their excitement or distraction; nope, lets just drug them so we can make the problem go away...at least until they snap and go off the deep end.
And if these folks suddenly stop taking these meds then what happens? I am no medical professional, but if someone is taking something long term, I am sure there are rammifications of the sudden loss of this chemical in the body that has been coarsing through the veins for so long.
This is what happens when you over-medicate and only preach that we're all equal and get medals. When you don't learn what it's like to put in effort and succeed, you don't get to find that motivation to make something for yourself. The feeling when you lose sucks and it teaches you to try harder so you can win. When you never have a loser, you'll never have a winner either.
Fucking around with neurochemistry is a BAD idea. In many cases, the developers have no idea what the actual mechanism is, just the observed results, and if the side effects are acceptable in their studies, the FDA gives them a green light. It just astounds me when a TV commercial says "Snapadrine™ is thought to work by..." [Shock] . Seriously, who takes a drug that nobody can tell them HOW it works, or WHAT the long term effects might be?
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