So...I just got a scammer call.

[Bailey Guns]

I got about 4 calls today from 800-111-3344. Finally answered late this afternoon, against my better judgment. Instantly recognized it as a scam call from the "Hello" that was echoed every time I said "hello". Guy with an Asian(?) accent tries to tell me he's from the Federal Bureau of the Government Treasury or something. He was really hard to understand. I hung up and went to my cell carrier's website to block the number.

Meanwhile, Mr Secret Asian Fed calls back and gets a message in before the block takes effect. In the message, which I saved, he calls me by name, drops a lot of f-bombs and mother f-bombs, says he knows where I live, threatens to sexually assault every female member of my family, threatens to cut my throat, tells me his grandson is Barack Obama, and on and on.

Now here's the thing. In my perfect fantasy world he'd show up and I'd ventilate his face and torso with a 5.56 round or six.

In the real world in which we live I have to work within the system. I've made numerous complaints to the Colorado AG's office regarding the multitude of scam callers we've been getting over the last year. With absolutely no feedback. Not even a "gee, we'd like to help but we're really busy with real crime" response. And I know many of these scam calling outfits are calling from off-shore. But you'd think US law still applies when the recipient of the calls is in the US. With the resources of the state and federal governments you'd think they could do something to these people. I'm really doubtful that these calls, even though they're using spoofed numbers, can't be tracked down with today's technology.

But this one raises the bar and pissed me off. I know the guy was just trying to push my buttons. I get that. But when someone threatens my family that's crossing a line.

I'm thinking of launching a crusade to get the AG's office to do SOMETHING about this. Even if it's a slap on the wrist. Enough is enough.

[Great-Kazoo]

Forget the AG's office. Last few time i picked up the ph w/out looking @ Caller ID it was some dick head. Told them i was on no call, why were they bothering me. Well sir that No Call list ONLY APPLIES to calls made within the United States. I'm located in canada. CLICK.

[RblDiver]

*Hums* Secret....AAAAAAsian fed, secret.....AAAAsian fed...

[hurley842002]

I say launch!

[Bailey Guns]

Forget the AG's office. Last few time i picked up the ph w/out looking @ Caller ID it was some dick head. Told them i was on no call, why were they bothering me. Well sir that No Call list ONLY APPLIES to calls made within the United States. I'm located in canada. CLICK.

I'll have to research a little but my reasoning is this: Under Colorado law harassment by phone can be prosecuted in either the jurisdiction where the call is placed or the jurisdiction where the call is received (or at least that was the case when I was on the job). So I'm guessing federal law works the same way. Finding someone who will actually do anything about it is a different story.

[Great-Kazoo]

I'll have to research a little but my reasoning is this: Under Colorado law harassment by phone can be prosecuted in either the jurisdiction where the call is placed or the jurisdiction where the call is received (or at least that was the case when I was on the job). So I'm guessing federal law works the same way. Finding someone who will actually do anything about it is a different story.

Within the confines of the U.S. AND yes, GOOD LUCK finding someone who would do anything about it.

Maybe you could write out a list of pre riot demands, to get some movement higher up the food chain.[facepalm]

[Bailey Guns]

That's a good idea...

[Dave_L]

Don't mess with a man's wife/family, dog or truck. Simple rules to live by.

[HoneyBadger]

Just send Jim to break his kneecaps.

[Bailey Guns]

Don't mess with a man's wife/family, dog or truck. Simple rules to live by.

I'm really torn on what order those should be in...

[Coffee]

[def90]

Huh.. i put my number on the do not call list and never received another sales call. I then ditched my landline and stopped receiving political robocalls as well..

sent from a soup can and some string..

[Bailey Guns]

We've been on the state and fed No Call lists since they were started. This was on my cell phone, BTW. I'd ditch the landline but we pay $75 month for DSL and the landline. If we ditch the landline the non-bundled DSL price goes up to $79 month. Go figure. And we don't have options living where we do other than sat internet. And that isn't an option.

[Fentonite]

I'm really torn on what order those should be in...

[Coffee]


[ROFL2]
I plead the 5th.

[Bailey Guns]

[ROFL2]
I plead the 5th.

No fair. You probably KNOW who/what I'd put first...

[Artema]

We've been on the state and fed No Call lists since they were started. This was on my cell phone, BTW. I'd ditch the landline but we pay $75 month for DSL and the landline. If we ditch the landline the non-bundled DSL price goes up to $79 month. Go figure. And we don't have options living where we do other than sat internet. And that isn't an option.

Just turn off the ringer. You can use it fine for emergency calls and wont be bothered or pay more.

[cstone]

Call your carrier. Ask to speak with someone in security or someone responsible for fraud investigations. Let them know that you received a death threat and the number it came from. They MAY (no guarantee) look into the originating number to see if it is traceable or listed with other complaints. When the carrier has enough complaints from enough customers OR a complaint from one of their special customers, i.e. Governor, Senator, President, etc... the carrier will actually contact someone in LE to assist them in tracking down the responsible party.

Even criminals overseas can be targeted by LE. The news today had a story about a large TOR related investigation resulting in arrests in several different countries whose investigative agencies were cooperating in identifying operators and taking down servers. It doesn't happen often because of the nature of the types of investigations, but it can happen under the right circumstances.

The caller was probably making the call trough stolen services, which is just one additional crime but one which the carriers actually seem to take seriously. Stolen service is a loss of revenue to telecommunications providers.

Be safe.

[Bailey Guns]

Maybe I'll try that. Thanks.

[CO Hugh]

Sounds like ISIS at work.

[68Charger]

I usually take calls like that and put them in my contact list with a special ringer... silent.

but what you described would be way over the line, and I'd contact cell carrier and LE to investigate death threats...

BTW, your location still shows "The Suburbs of Bailey"- are you still there?

[cstone]

Sounds like ISIS at work.

You think he was scammed by the Egyptian goddess of health, marriage, and love?

51963

[wyome]

*Hums* Secret....AAAAAAsian fed, secret.....AAAAsian fed...

Songs stuck in my head now...yay!

[TheGrey]

Wow- that's awful.
When I get scam calls (Usually from "Credit Services") I interrupt the caller and ask them to speak slowly and enunciate, so my recorder can catch everything they're saying...and then I state the time, date, repeat the telephone number they're calling from and ask them to spell their full name. They usually hang up. I usually get a massive amount of calls in the beginning of summer, for some weird reason.

But I've never had harassment to that level. Geeze.

[GilpinGuy]

Huh.. i put my number on the do not call list and never received another sales call. I then ditched my landline and stopped receiving political robocalls as well..

sent from a soup can and some string..

Yup, me too. Not one call from a douchebag salesperson or politician (same thing) in a few years now.

[ChadAmberg]

A year ago I got a VOIP line through OOMA.com, and it has a shared spammer call blacklist that you can have automatically block any known spam callers. If any get through, you can add them to the list of spam calls and it'll help others avoid them. It's worked great, honestly I haven't gotten more than 2 spam calls in that year.

[Ronin13]

I've had scam calls before, but Jesus, Bailey, that's ridiculous. I would totally pursue a formal complaint with the AG, and even file one with the FCC (as they handle the violations to the Do Not Call list). I get calls every so often from things where at one point or another someone has given or sold my number to someone. Hell, during the Stock Show last year, my friends gave my info to Stevenson Chevrolet and some contest. Do you have any idea how hard those are to actually stop? I still get emails from Stevenson. But never anything like threats have come my way. That's pretty extreme stuff.

[wctriumph]

I have received a few of those calls. I lead them on and ask questions:

Really, where did you get this information from?
How do you know that what you have there is accurate?
What makes you think I will respond to your demands?
Why would you think that I owe you anything?
Who says?
Can I talk to your supervisor?

Sometimes I don't get to ask more than two questions and they hang up. Haven't had any calls for about a month now.

[spqrzilla]

International crime is impossible to get investigated. The FBI is a F'ing Bunch of Incompetents, the Colorado AG utterly useless, etc. Now if you want action, report that they offered you pirated versions of Disney films.

[BlasterBob]

On a recent spam call, the bastards used our own phone number to show who the call was from. This was shown on our caller ID readout. Some one else said that they experienced the same thing.

[Alpha2]

Forget the AG's office. Last few time i picked up the ph w/out looking @ Caller ID it was some dick head. Told them i was on no call, why were they bothering me. Well sir that No Call list ONLY APPLIES to calls made within the United States. I'm located in canada. CLICK.

Geez, Kazoo, first you tell us you're in Greeley, now you're in Canada?

[Big John]

When my kids were younger, I'd hand the phone of to one of them. This was a win win for me. The kids loved talking to whatever moron was on the other end. I, of course, got rid of the moron.

[ZERO THEORY]

Funny how they can track down a guy who started a Torrent site or spy on Tea Party contributors, but don't have the resources to track down people who are actually interfering with Americans.

[cstone]

Funny how they can track down a guy who started a Torrent site or spy on Tea Party contributors, but don't have the resources to track down people who are actually interfering with Americans.

Funny? Oh, you mean ironic.

It wasn't a guy who started a Torrent site, it was several people who were running Torrent servers to commit numerous felonies in numerous countries. Those type of investigations take months if not years.

I don't know an specifics about spying on Tea Party contributors, but national security surveillance is not the same as a criminal investigation.

This would not be an investigation into who might be interfering with an American, because I am not aware of a specific crime related to interference with an American. Making death threats or threats to harm someone over telecommunications networks is a crime in many states and may be a criminal act federally if certain elements are met. Also, theft of services, if this is the case would clearly be a crime both locally and federally. An investigation would need to be conducted, and given investigative resources, those are rarely conducted for one or even two random calls, despite how annoying and criminal they may happen to be.

Getting someone with the jurisdiction to conduct this type of investigation interested or motivated is probably the biggest hurdle to overcome. After that, it becomes a matter for the agents conducting the investigation to put the effort in to develop enough evidence to present to a prosecutor who has the time to bring the case to trial. Most of these cases cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to develop and prosecute.

Enjoy your irony. [Coffee]

[Inconel710]

Nothing quite that bad for me Bailey. Closest I got was one credit service that called. I pressed 1 and as soon as a real person picked up I gave them a primal scream and hung up. Got a call back a minute later and some woman called me an a$$hole. :D


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[rondog]

A loud "SUCK MY DICK" seems to work well too.

[JMBD2112]

Start doing something to this tune, cracks me up everytime......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkdoogjic4I

[DonnyCommo]

I got calls from an Indian wanting me to pay $5k. Usually telling them I was going to fornicate with the family cow and then eat it got them to leave me alone


Sent by a hollowed out coconut using morse code

[sniper7]

Start doing something to this tune, cracks me up everytime......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkdoogjic4I

Oh holy crap that was funny

[DHC]

^^^^^^ ROFL

[yz9890]

I got this email this morning. Looks legit. [sarcasm]
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/11/1eb2428d80e892ece2dcbedf3de855f7.jpg