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So I just got my first 1911, it is a Springfield Armory range officer commander, can you dry fire that weapon? I know to get snap caps, but I have already dry fired it about 20 times and read online that you should never do that with a 1911? Any input would help thank you
DRY FIRE UNTIL YOU WEAR THE FRONT SIGHT OUT. Don't worry about using snap caps.
Ok thanks! All these damn Google searches had me worried lol
laportecharlie
12-25-2014, 15:58
Excellent choice!! You may acquire other 1911's but don't let go of this one. I think it is the best bang for the buck out there and I haven't been a big fan of Springfield Armory.
wctriumph
12-25-2014, 16:47
Congrats! I have had four 1911 pistols:
AMT Hardballer - What a piece of junk that was. Not even the factory could make it work right. Traded it for a 8mm video camera that I never used and gave to the in-laws.
Springfield GI model - reliable 1911 but not real accurate. It would hit a 8" plate at 50' if I did my job. It was stolen out of my truck while I was in a cafe.
RIA - Bought as a back up but it was a GI model with really low profile sights and my old eyes had a hard time picking up the sights so I sold it to a younger man.
Colt Government - See my avatar. This one is a keeper and my primary carry piece. I like it and it like me, we will be friends forever.
I have never had an issue with dry firing any of them.
Once again, congrats!
Now buy my ammo for it :)
A nice 1911 trigger will make pretty much everything else feel like crap. Enjoy the new toy.
[Beer]
SideShow Bob
12-25-2014, 19:25
Congratulations on joining the 1911 crowd, just remember, " Once you go 1911, you never go back."
and by the way, before anyone else gives you crap, it is a "Range Officer Compact" not commander, Champion 4" bull barrel & slide on a lightweight Officer's frame. I am wanting one of these too. Did you get it locally ?
Are you planning to go over to the Firing Line any time soon ?
I'll let you shoot one of mine if I can shoot your ROC.
So I just got my first 1911, it is a Springfield Armory range officer commander, can you dry fire that weapon? I know to get snap caps, but I have already dry fired it about 20 times and read online that you should never do that with a 1911? Any input would help thank you
Dry fire until you break it, which you won't. I have the full size Range Officer and wonder how the Compact compares. Report back please.
Hi guys, it is the full size commander one. I really love it, I have been a Glock guy forever and actually trading a friend of mine a Glock 22 gen 2 and a Glock 21 gen 1 for it. Will probably go to the firing line sometime next week sideshow and of course you can shoot her!!
SideShow Bob
12-26-2014, 11:46
Hi guys, it is the full size commander one.
OK, I am confused (not too hard to do) is it this model ?
http://www.springfield-armory.com/products/1911-range-officer-compact-45-acp/
Or is it this one ?
http://www.springfield-armory.com/products/1911-champion-operator-lightweight-45-acp/
In my day the models of 1911 are:
Government - 5" barrel
Commander - 4" or 4.25" barrel
Officer - 3" barrel
Never had one that included Officer and Commander in the title. Just measure the barrel length and tell us what you have. We can all name it what we want after that. Maybe a picture would work as well.
Welcome to the club!
SideShow Bob
12-26-2014, 12:26
In my day the models of 1911 are:
Government - 5" barrel
Commander - 4" or 4.25" barrel
Officer - 3" barrel
Never had one that included Officer and Commander in the title. Just measure the barrel length and tell us what you have. We can all name it what we want after that. Maybe a picture would work as well.
Welcome to the club!
The "Range Officer Compact" has the Champion (commander) 4" bull ramped barrel upper and a "officer" (shortened 6 round) sized Alloy frame. See the first link in my post above.
sellersm
12-26-2014, 12:29
Yes, the new "CCO" lines of 1911 models are commander barrels with officer frames. SA is supposed to be making this particular model in 9mm as well!!
SideShow Bob
12-26-2014, 12:36
Yes, the new "CCO" lines of 1911!
That was the term I couldn't think of, they are not that new, there have been a few manufacturers that have come out with there version over the last few years.
But this is a new offering as far as SA is concerned.
The "Range Officer Compact" has the Champion (commander) 4" bull ramped barrel upper and a "officer" (shortened 6 round) sized Alloy frame. See the first link in my post above.
I see Range Officer "Compact". My point is it's not called a Range Officer "Commander" as in the OP.
SideShow Bob
12-26-2014, 12:52
I see Range Officer "Compact". My point is it's not called a Range Officer "Commander" as in the OP.
And so the confusion, the OP also states "full size commander" in another post in conjunction with calling it a Range Officer.
1911 Noobs, what can I say.......[Tooth]
BPTactical
12-26-2014, 13:30
Throw "MicroCompact" into the mix for further confusion.
Throw "MicroCompact" into the mix for further confusion.
"Come on man" nobody has mentioned "MicroCompact" now your just scaring people. Pretty soon the OP is going to be too intimidated to even tell us what he really has.
sellersm
12-26-2014, 13:55
Throw "MicroCompact" into the mix for further confusion.
And "Ultra Compact"! [Coffee]
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Hi guys, it is the full size commander one. I really love it, I have been a Glock guy forever and actually trading a friend of mine a Glock 22 gen 2 and a Glock 21 gen 1 for it. Will probably go to the firing line sometime next week sideshow and of course you can shoot her!!
Ok, I guess we are going to get technical. The first G21 serial numbers begin in 1990, and the first generation Glocks were built between 1982-1989.
1982-1989 (First Generation)
. two pins (trigger pin, trigger mechanism housing pin)
. smooth (pebble finish) frame
1989-1997 (Second Generation)
. three pins (locking block pin, trigger pin, trigger mechanism housing pin)
. checkering on the front and back of the frame
. side pebble finished panels
1997- (Third Generation)
. three pins (locking block pin, trigger pin, trigger mechanism housing pin)
. finger grooves with checkering between finger grooves and back of the frame
. thumb recess
. forward equipment rail
So he doesn't even know what Glock 21 he had either. [Coffee]
SideShow Bob
12-26-2014, 14:13
Throw "MicroCompact" into the mix for further confusion.
As far as SA 1911s are concerned :
Full size = "Government" 5" sized 1911
Champion = "Commander" 4" sized 1911
Range Officer Compact = CCO sized 1911
Ultra Compact = "Officer" 3.5 " size 1911
Micro Compact = "Defender" 3" size 1911
This list does not cover some of the older discontinued and SA Custom shop one off models.
Due to trademark and copy right problems each manufacturer has to come up with their own names for said sizes of 1911s.
sellersm
12-26-2014, 14:23
Oh and then add in the "Lightweight" terminology! [facepalm] It's getting so confusing... [Coffee]
Oh great, now I have go out and get more. I appear to be missing some sizes.
SideShow Bob
12-26-2014, 14:28
Oh and then add in the "Lightweight" terminology! [facepalm] It's getting so confusing... [Coffee]
This is why I left out the "Lightweight" and "Long Slide" terminology out.
If the OP would only post up the Model number off of the end of the case or a picture we all could quit being Internet experts. [LOL]
sellersm
12-26-2014, 14:31
If the OP would only post up the Model number off of the end of the case or a picture we all could quit being Internet experts. [LOL]
Where's the fun in that? [Coffee]
As soon as he posts a picture what we supposed to do then? Maybe it will turn out to be a 9mm and we can start in on if it is a real 1911.
SideShow Bob
12-26-2014, 15:24
As soon as he posts a picture what we supposed to do then? Maybe it will turn out to be a 9mm and we can start in on if it is a real 1911.
You may want to edit your post and put a smiley in there or a sarcasm disclaimer before someone gets their little feelers hurt........ [Coffee]
My Sig Ultra 1911 has a 3.3 inch barrel which seems to fall between the SA Ultra & Micro sizes. RSC is a CCO model. Got a Comander & Full Size. Guess I need to pick up a SA Ultra & Micro, then a long slide. Mods need to close this thread then deep six it. This could get real expensive.
I've since left the 1911 sphere but have owned Colt's/Ed Brown/Wilson/Springfield/and a handful of custom builds. If I had it to do over, I'd not buy anything but off-the-shelf Springfield guns.
Not sure what I said that would be considered abrasive. I have seen a number of talks that banter back and forth on 1911 calibers and what a real 1911 should be. I personally have a 1911 in 10mm and still consider it as real as any of the other four in 45acp. [Coffee]
Zombie Steve
12-27-2014, 16:46
To the OP:
First - welcome to the addiction.
Next - as others have said, you'll be fine dry firing a 1911. No worries whatsoever.
Last - nobody has mentioned it, but since we're on the do's and don'ts of 1911's, don't make a habit of dropping the slide from the locked open position on an empty chamber. It's the 1911 equivalent of spinning a revolver cylinder then whipping it shut one handed.
TheSparkens
12-27-2014, 17:55
If it breaks send it back to SA and most likely it will come back better then before. Springfield has got the best customer service around. I have a new SS Mil Spec and for the price it is tight and dead on. I can shoot out the center of the target most any day with a junk shoot every once in a while but that is my fault.
Zombie Steve
12-28-2014, 01:02
If we're doing testimonials, I have an early TRP (wood grips and everything) that has untold tens of thousands of rounds through it. I replace the mainspring and the recoil spring roughly once a year. Other than that and different sights, it's stock. Runs like a top.
Everyone is talking about short barrel 1911s...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qoMJ2r1yhps/T6apMzBkZvI/AAAAAAAADiU/dujjxF_29Gk/s1600/AMT+Hardballer+Long+Slide+45+ACP.jpg
Maybe not the most reliable 1911 ever made but still fun to shoot.
Welcome to the insanity. [Flower]
Zombie Steve
12-28-2014, 13:26
That an AMT Hardballer?
[QUOTE=Ah Pook;1806333]Everyone is talking about short barrel 1911s...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qoMJ2r1yhps/T6apMzBkZvI/AAAAAAAADiU/dujjxF_29Gk/s1600/AMT+Hardballer+Long+Slide+45+ACP.jpg
Maybe not the most reliable 1911 ever made but still fun to shoot.
Wow, does that thing come with a trailer? I would think that the slide is so heavy it would look like slow motion when shooting it. Only thing is, I want one, to convert to 10mm.
Last - nobody has mentioned it, but since we're on the do's and don'ts of 1911's, don't make a habit of dropping the slide from the locked open position on an empty chamber. It's the 1911 equivalent of spinning a revolver cylinder then whipping it shut one handed.
Had to learn that one the hard way...
That an AMT Hardballer?
Yes.
Wow, does that thing come with a trailer? I would think that the slide is so heavy it would look like slow motion when shooting it. Only thing is, I want one, to convert to 10mm.
It doesn't have much muzzle flip. [Coffee] 10mm would be fun but where to find a 7" barrel?
sellersm
01-22-2015, 12:23
My Sig Ultra 1911 has a 3.3 inch barrel which seems to fall between the SA Ultra & Micro sizes. RSC is a CCO model. Got a Comander & Full Size. Guess I need to pick up a SA Ultra & Micro, then a long slide. Mods need to close this thread then deep six it. This could get real expensive.
^Truth!! I really want a Sig Ultra!
I'd love to have a 6" Long Slide target 1911, but that 7" is a bit much! Looks cool though. Kind of a 1911 Buntline.
DenverGP
01-22-2015, 15:12
Maybe put a sig brace on that 1911? Just don't shoulder it.
SideShow Bob
01-22-2015, 22:11
We must have run the OP off like a scared rabbit, he hasn't been back to his thread.
Circuits
01-22-2015, 22:45
We must have run the OP off like a scared rabbit, he hasn't been back to his thread.
He's probably just reading quietly, in reverent awe.
whitbaby
11-02-2015, 17:39
Looks like an AMT Longslide...7" barrel. I had one when shooting IPSC many moons ago, didn't need a compensator. Barrel stayed down pretty good.
Green Mtn Guns sold it for me on consignment.
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